I just looked, she's still there.
Theresa ![]()
She's there, but it does say that she's not registered anymore! I just looked at her last postings and don't see anything that might have warranted her getting the boot from the forum
, hmmm
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I thought that was regarding her avatar, because it is in the avatar section.
I am reading an e-mail I got from her last night, outside of CC, and she did not say anything to me about it. I am responding to her e-mail now, and will mention this to her.
Theresa ![]()
I think I've found the reason:
http://cakecentral.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=159871&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=15
Maybe Stephanie214 or Heath will come and confirm later!
Just read the 'To Comment..' post and yes, that's probably it (I didn't read it before, because that subject has come up a few times recently and I just thought it was more of the same...), but I also noticed in that post that veejaytx' is also no longer registered!
Kelly
Janice emailed me saying she pm'd Heath and Jackie about Risque Business attitude, and she said she received a pm from Heath and he kicked her out
that's all I know, so I won't tell more, since I don't know the whole story...
that's sad, I wonder what has been said so they kick Janice out... ![]()
I say good ridence to RB!!!! We don't need her bad attitude here on CC anyway. That's IMHO
Janice has quit before though. I hope everyone will leave this one alone. We don't need that bad attitude on CC~
Off to work~
On the positive side.... Ya'll have a glorious, beautiful, wonderfull, amazing day!!!
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I just read most of the thread and there was plenty of nasty going around. I don't know about poster's histories, but there is a lot of "typing with attitude". The thing is, without personally knowing a poster, there is no way to know if they are joking, being sarcastic, or if evil is afoot. I've always felt that most people read what they want to read into a post - if they want to read funny, they read funny. If they want to read ugly, they read ugly.
Agreeing with LanaC...
Offence is often a chosen rather than a given.
I personally never read any offense in the original RB post and was surprised to see where it all escalated.... I put it down to pmessing all
over the place (jesting)...
All of that said..Where is that Simon Cowell when ya need him?
When reading or writing posts always remember: We're all on the same team.
I do believe a "time out in the corner" is in order for this woman (RB). I haven't been a member long as I "stumbled" onto this website back in December but, my one and only post she came at me like well..... she wasn't very nice in her posting I know everyone has an opinion but it's the way she states hers. I was going to seek another website until I got a ton of PM's (thanks to all of you!) Anyone that will take a post and pull it line from line apart to "prove" how right she is and how stupid you are just needs to have their hand slapped and put in the naughty corner. I did notice that she seems a totally different person over on that "Naughty" posting forum, she seemed pretty nice. Please give the rest of us here on the "nice" side the same kindness I think it's all that those of us who will speak up would ask of her.
I am so sad if she is really gone - I really could just cry.
That's just not right, I have never had a problem with her posts, she's opinionated and I feel most people are not taking some of her posts in the manner in which she meant them to be taken.
If she is truly gone that is so very wrong and I will miss her so very much.
A community is made up of all different people and views - I would not benefit from a "cookie cutter" community - no pun intended. ![]()
I am glad to hear that RB has been banned, I have long found her offensive and felt that she dealt with most people with a very superior attitude, unlike most of CC which is a kind and generous community. I would have hated to see a 'bad apple' spoil the bunch, or whatever that phrase is. I realize that when typing it's hard to know 'how' someone meant something, for that reason we should be careful to post in such a way that we're not coming across as rude.
On the other hand, I am very sad to hear that Janice has been banned (if that's the case). I've spoken to her a few times and found her to be a lovely woman. Pootchi, if you're in contact with her, please let her know that she will be missed, and we hope she will (can) come back.
To the original topic:
I'm a hobbyist here, like many, and others are in the business.
I post my photos because I am watching myself expand over time in the craft (very slowly because I have many other lives to live at the same time) and I grow in seeing the expansion of others as time goes by, and I appreciate when people leave a comment. No comment and I just expect people are busy with whatever and who has time to look at every photo? And hey!.. I'm a grownup...I can pretty much see where I am with my ability. If I can't, then I need to learn some objectivity. So comments are nice but not necessary to my being here. I'd prefer a well aimed crappy comment, than a vain attempt to say something nice on a cake that's just ordinary. But hey that's just me. Whatever the multifarious reasons for posting photos of cakes on this site, I would hope receiving platituees would be the least of them...we're not children and for the few that are, well they'll learn faster with honest critique.
My main dilemma with comments, is that now that someone has left one, am I now under some unwritten social mask of courtesy, expected to go back in and appreciate the comment with an ackowledgement or critique of the comment? Really people, life is too precious to waste it on worrying about what is the hidden message behind "No comment". There isn't one. It just means it's a busy day in our many facet lifestyles, and if you're stuck on one channel, you'll be watching a lot of reruns.
You all would die if you visited a couple other boards that I belong to. The things I see people get upset over here is nothing compared to other boards. You all are the nicest and tamest I have seen!! Even those posters for expample like Risque buisness(I think I spelled it wrong but you all know who I am talking about) would be just a soft fluffy little lamb. Personally I like the tell it how it is and I value that person comment more then the people who always have a nice thing to say. REally this is the real world and it is okay if you don't like everyone and it is okay that not everyone likes you. Comments are meant to help you grow and learn. I know my one lowly cake sucks really I do! I appreciate people telling me it is a nice cake, I like certain things about it but my cakes need work bottom line. This is the first board I have been on where the threads are so closely monitored but really that is okay just the way things roll around here. (sorry for the long run on paragraph, my enter button does not work! Now that is annoying!)
It saddens me to see people talk about RB is such a negative way or any other member for that matter. We as adults choose to come onto this forum. We also choose whether or not to post on a thread. I have read some terrible things on this board. Have I ever been involved?? Probably.
I am by no means a "follower" but do email with her. She is a very carefree spirit. I have had my head bit off many times and RB was always there to keep the peace.
We may not like the way people are in this world but that does not give us license to talk trash when they are not available for comment.
It makes me think what would happen if I was gone?? People can say she was negative but I really appreciate all the help she has given me.
Growing up my mother's favorite saying was " If you can't say something nice, then don"t say anything at all". We've enough ways to comments without it being rude or offensive. Frankly, I'm heaving a sigh of relief that RB is gone. As I mentioned in another thread, I try to get my students to join this forum and a couple were turned of by some heated (flamed) threads. Sad to say, RB was doing the "flaming", not someone else.
You all would die if you visited a couple other boards that I belong to. The things I see people get upset over here is nothing compared to other boards. You all are the nicest and tamest I have seen!!
This is the first board I have been on where the threads are so closely monitored but really that is okay just the way things roll around here. (sorry for the long run on paragraph, my enter button does not work! Now that is annoying!)
And this is why it is the nicest and tamest place to be, because it is monitored so that rude, nasty, not necessary, and sometimes harmful statements from people are not tolerated. CC is an awesome place with sooooo many friendly helpful people and I am glad it is kept that way for the vast majority of us. ![]()
Like you, pucka, I am relatively new to CC and learning to decorate cakes and I love all that CC has to offer from its vast supply of worldwide members. We are lucky aren't we!! ![]()
RB will be missed by all. She is a one-man striving cake business owner which is under alot of stress in her life. If she could find a way to remove the stress in her words she would find herself a more respected less flamed person. She is rough around the edges, but she meant well.
i told my DH how everyone was leaving such nice comments on my photos and he said "didn't you say they leave nice comments on everyone's photos, even the not so great ones?" i think i would sometimes rather hear something a little constructive than always just sugar coated. i admire people that can speak their mind. now, i haven't seen all of risquebusiness posts, so i'm not quite sure what all the fuss is about. i don't think there's anything wrong with a little critisism, but it's hard to see anybody being slammed, even if they did "ask for it."
Personally I think the whole situation is sad. I don't agree with anything that has gone on in any of this. Risque makes rude comments, yes. But this forum is full of rude comments about her too. How can people who think they are better than someone else do the same thing they are "bashing" the other person for. It is childish and I don't even accept it from my children.
If it was thought by Heath and/or Jackie that Risque and anyone else involved in the being mean needed to go, then they probably did. It seems that this forum is getting meaner and meaner.
I don't believe in sugarcoating things, but it is common courtesy to respect others. If someone asks for critiquing, you can do it respectfully. I know my cakes aren't great, but if someone were to tell me how bad they are I would be upset too. If someone were to just give me helpful hints in how to make them better, that is totally different.
It is a sad day when grown adults can't even treat each other with respect that should be expected from children.
i told my DH how everyone was leaving such nice comments on my photos and he said "didn't you say they leave nice comments on everyone's photos, even the not so great ones?" i think i would sometimes rather hear something a little constructive than always just sugar coated. i admire people that can speak their mind. now, i haven't seen all of risquebusiness posts, so i'm not quite sure what all the fuss is about. i don't think there's anything wrong with a little critisism, but it's hard to see anybody being slammed, even if they did "ask for it."
I missed posting on the locked thread so here is my 2cents.
I am a supporter and yes I need to do more commenting. I enjoy looking and commenting. Do I want to be honest?? Yes. If I was would it come off as HARSH...with out a doubt.
RB will be missed by all. She is a one-man striving cake business owner which is under alot of stress in her life. If she could find a way to remove the stress in her words she would find herself a more respected less flamed person. She is rough around the edges, but she meant well.
Well apparently, not "all" lol...
But I personally found her to be an enormous contributor to the site and will miss her presence too...
I agree about all of the comments being positive. Constructive criticism is good, but I also understand that we don't want to kick someone when their down. If someone makes a cake that doesn't look so great, the positive comments will encourage them to not give up, but a little constructive critiquing would also help them on their next project.
And yes, this forum is tame, but it is also so very helpful. I belong to a forum that is supposed to be filled with professionals in my field. HA. There is not much help their. Mostly over sized egos who think their opinion is the gospel. When I ask for advice, they read and don't respond, so I have to wonder if they are really the professionals they profess to be. At least here, the proof is in the pudding by all of the pics that are posted along with recipes, tutorials, and more.
I do feel like some freedom of speech issues may be on the fence, however, freedom of speech is a right that should not be abused or used to hurt others.
As a Gallery Supporter I have made comments that offer another way to make a certain cake or hints at doing something so that the member's cake may look more polished and I've never been bashed. If I think I can help in greater depth I will pm the member rather than post my critique for the whole world to see. I'm sure a lot of Gallery Supporter do the same. Just because the comments viewed are on a positive note doesn't mean honesty isn't involved.
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