Bongo and Vick61, the safety issue has been brought up and exhaustively discussed in the forums in a number of threads. I completely respect and appreciate your concerns, which is why I encourage anyone who wants to try the method but is concerned about safety, to please use a sheet of parchment or wax paper as noted in the above instructions.
thank you for the advice it help a lot
Don't get me wrong, I own a roll of Viva Towels and use them once in a while.. but I encourage you to try to perfect the art of a smooth buttercream finish using a hot angled spatula. It is a method that requires focus, concentration and patience, but the result is so worth it. In the beginning my husband always popped over to help me while I struggled through my first buttercream cakes because he is so good a "spackling"... yes walls! I wanted to smack him upside the head, because yes, he could make it work, but then with each cake I made I got better and better at it and faster and faster and now he jokes about letting me spackle the walls of his next big project. I told him only if I can dump a quart of vanilla extract in the spackle to make it more enjoyable.
Hi, I use Italian Meringue Buttercream for m cakes. will this method work for me?
Do you think washing the roller and maybe soaking in boiling water for a couple of minutes would remove the chemicles? I would want to wash the store dust off anyway.
I love this method and use it all the time. :)
I will admit I've not seen the other discussions about the safety or lack of it re: using the foam roller that is mentioned above, so perhaps I am at a disadvantage. However, I simply cannot believe that ANYONE would use this and think it is safe! Plastic foam is comprised of tons of chemicals that I will guarantee you is NOT food safe!! How anyone could consider using this and think it's "safe" and okay AND knowing that so many little kids (when they are MOST vulnerable!) are eating your cake, too, is beyond comprehension. Hey - let's take some closed foam latex pillows and press them against the icing for a nice smooth finish, too. Where is your thinking here? IT'S DANGEROUS!! It REALLY concerns me as clearly most of you think it's okay to use.
I emailed a company that manufactures these things and this is the reply I got. ( I would use this method, but only with the paper or paper towel.
Thank you for your question. We would recommend that you do NOT use the high density foam rollers for food preparation. These products are not FDA approved. They are made in various factories around the world and travel to the USA in containers that nobody could possibly know what might have traveled in the container before the rollers. Brent Swenson Linzer Products Corp.
Curious about the buttercream recipe noted above with the 1/2 c butter and 1.5 c shortening...will that make the icing too soft? The recipe I have been using is delicious but calls for the same amount conf sugar with only 1 c butter or shortening. I used the roller method using wax paper and worked great! But my icing seems very soft, just wondering if adding the extra shortening would make it too soft. Thanks!
I have tried different methods. But I wonder if my problem is that I have not been waiting the 15 minutes. As soon as I put the BC on, I start trying to smooth. I'll have to try waiting. I may even pop the cake into the freezer for those 15 minutes. It seems the condensation helps when smoothing the BC.
Ah ha!!! This is what I do! :)
Maybe it's just me, but this seems like a method born out of laziness. I am all for using better methods for creating a better, more professional looking product in less time, but icing a cake is a basic process in cake decorating. Best and easiest method is a bench scraper dipped in hot water: quick, simple, efficient, and no Viva towel "dimples"
I've tried this method before...but with less than stellar results. But I'm always one to learn and try new methods. Upon reading this post, I realize my mistake was using a cheapie foam roller from the dollar store. Using high density makes total sense. Definitely going to try again.
I never comment on these tutorials, but buttercream is close to my heart, and I have to say, this is pretty ridiculous. And I completely agree with TheSevenAcreBaker. Buttercream is an art, and a developed skill. Paper towels, computer paper, rollers and the like don't teach you how to handle buttercream under all conditions, like changes in weather, temperature, and humidity. What I think is most imperative is the development of a consistent, easy to use, and completely delicious buttercream recipe. Mine contains 5 ingredients, is all natural, ACTUALLY CONTAINS BUTTER, contains no meringue powder (a complete misnomer if you think about the common sense combo of egg whites and fat!) and is delicious. BTW, sugar makes BC crust. My recommendation is practice, practice, practice.
Good luck everyone!
Would be great if hobbyists, newbies, professionals, and perfectionists could all get along. Hobbyists may not have the time we pros have to fine-tune our methods, and when I was just starting out, simple helpers like Viva towels were quite welcome. No, I don't need those kinds of tools any more, but let's please respect when members of our community strive to share things that some members may want to use! Safety concerns aside (not because I'm not concerned, but because this comment is about the Spirit of Community, not safety), I appreciate Melvira sharing a new strategy. If you choose not to use a foam roller, her concept may help you discover a food-safe alternative like a short pastry rolling pin (like the one Pampered Chef sells). Go easy folks - let's not stifle creativity and trample our community!
This is not a new method, as it has been around for many years. First saw it being used in Germany. Can't use it in a bakery...Food inspector will write you up and will tell you to remove it along with bubble wrap.
Someone always brings this method back every so many years. It is important for decorators to be aware of products that can be harmful. Just because someone does it, doesn't mean it is right, so you must check it out yourself.
Gross! I'm actually disappointed that Cake Central even posted this method.
I am totally new to this website but I will say this...some of you folks are major rude snobs. If you don't want to use the roller then just move right along. "Buttercream is an art" ? It is freaking icing people!!
I've been doing this for a long time. I keep getting more and more requests for a cake for a birthday or other event. The biggest was a four tier wedding cake. I want my cakes to be really delicious and I won't sacrifice taste that for "perfect" icing that has too much shortening to taste really good. I ice the cake with pure butter icing. I decorate with an icing with half shortening and/or fondant, gum paste or other icings. I make my own vanilla with rum and many pure vanilla beans that I buy online to decrease the cost. The more cakes I make, the better I get at smoothing. Usually, it's fine but I'd try the roller, over parchment, if I had one that just wouldn't smooth enough.
@Rollingstone....The You are absolutely right, Buttercream is an art. Cake decorating is an art. However, that does not mean you should use a "paint roller" to smooth out your buttercream. Now, as someone said they would use it with a paper towel that IS food safe. I am sure that you would only want the to supply your clients with the safest food possible to ensure that "CROSS CONTAMINATION" does not occur. This may be a really good idea as long as the proper "FOOD SAFE" practices are used.
The same results can be achieved using wax paper and a wood fondant roller (with handle) over crusted buttercream. Buttercream may be an art, but time is precious and shortcuts are helpful, especially to beginners.
I've been using my little wood pizza dough roller with handle for years with wax paper. It achieves the same quick result with no worries about safety since the dough roller is food grade. And, for those of us who are doing this as a hobby with 1 cake every 6 months or so, we don't have time or patience to perfect the hot spatula technique after we come home from a full day at the office. Getting the icing on is not the fun part.
Wow! Some difference of opinions here. I doubt I will try using the roller method on the buttercream unless it is over parchment or Viva towel. But thank you Melvira, for taking the time to so thoroughly explain the method. We can all be more tactful when expressisng our opions.
If you don't like it or find it unhygienic, don't try it. "Butter cream is an art" and so are manners! See if you can find a class in those! Thanks, Melvira.
I used to own a bakery and have used numerous different methods for smoothing my buttercream icing. The method I used usually depended on the difficulty I was having with getting the icing to smooth (the humidity in Georgia is brutal) . I am disappointed that some people are cruel and so closed minded as to there being different methods that work for different people. I can't believe someone would have the audacity to suggest "laziness" as a reason to use this method. Honestly what is the difference in using a roller, paper towels, computer paper, parchment paper, wax paper etc...these all have been handled by no telling how many hands! You are using these on the surface of the cake. Thank you rollingstone, "it is just icing"!
Thanks to all of you that were supportive of someone else's method whether you use it or not.
Melvira, I washed my rollers in soapy water with a little bleach, rinsed them well and let completely dry before using. My state inspector actually thought the idea of using the roller was genius, of course I told her I could not take credit for the method, I got it from a woman that had been making cakes for decades!
Hello cakers & bakers, it's Melvira here.
After quite a sabbatical from CC I am back. First of all I'd like to thank Tamibooboo for the kind words and maturity! Sending you some cake love!
Then I'd just like to add if anyone has questions, comments, or just wants to chat, I'm back on the site and happy to do any of that!
I've missed some of my old cake buddies that I haven't been able to speak to by other means, and look forward to getting to know newer members!
Happy caking to all!
Melvira, thank you for posting your roller tutorial. I am not a professional baker, just a mama with many kids (making tons of birthday cakes for just us). My older kids have now asked me to make it a tradition to create their wedding cakes for them! I have made 2 so far, and the next child is getting married July 1st (friday). They love my buttercream icing but I don't make it to crust. Would you share your buttercream recipe? The other kids just wanted a messy? Iced cake which was great so I didn't need to 'perfect' the icing and make it smooth. This next daughter wants edible paper with music notes on it, applied to a smooth buttercream. Any help would be greatly appreciated!! I have never purchased the edible paper wraps. :/
Melvira, Would you please consider sharing your crust buttercream frosting? I have been creating wedding cakes for 40 years, and I have never seen this method used before. I am from the old school, where you dip your knife in hot water and slowly smooth it out. However, I haven't used that method for 30 years. I am always very concerned regarding food safety, in fact I haven't used any toxic cleaners in my home for over 10 years. Just a spray bottle, filled with water, and 1tsp. of organic dish soap. Then I add 6 - 8 drops each of my essential oils, tea tree and lavender. Shake, spray and wipe down. So, I will give it a try, and of course thoroughly wash it with my organic cleaner. But, I think I will try the parchment paper in between just to be safe. I have a 4 tier wedding cake that I am currently working on, which I have to deliver Friday so I hope it goes well. Thank you for your information and just ignore what the less than nice people have to say.
If the roller has the rounded edge like that, how do you get it to perfectky smooth the very bottom of the icing next to the board? Do you cut the end at a straight edge/angle to get it to roll flat against the bottom board/base?