in alot of places, i'll speak for the town i live in, ithink sporting the playboysymbol on clothing jewelry etc.. you name it - amongst teens,preteens who look up to the teens etc. you get the point, its a status thing..your "in" if your seen with this etc. so it bolsters esteem.. now i'm not promoting going out getting this symbol for your child etc trust me; just an insight is all and i admit not a very detailed indepth etc, again you may get the drift..
example i'll use is with cell phone vs tracfone.
we live in a town where only two versions of the tracfone work. no longer can we get a "local" tracfone # we have to get one thats "centered" in the next "big town" down river and the tracfones sold there, don't work where we live.. same with the verizon pay as you go phone, they work on the same signal
now that i've digressed or detailed more then needed (just helps a bit lol)
kids in this town have the attitude that if you use a tracfone- your considered Ew etc. they scoff at it yadda yadda. yes the big inthing is the camera phones and texting is the biggest so everyone opts for those endless text cell phone plans and so on..
well here you can't send pics with the camera phones.. something to do with the above mentioned signals etc.
anywho, story to the end, cell phones are used as status things.. also with the playboy symbol with the unspoken hint of forbiddeness that they can openly flaunt
bah, hope some of this made sense, if not just ignore it which is probably for the best but if your reading this part, far too late lol.
I was just asked to do a hannah Montana for a girl who is 5. I know nothing about Hannah Montana but after looking at some cakes I think that I can make it look juvenile enough for a 5 year old. You know pink, purple and lots of guitars. What do you all think?? Is this inappropriate? Like I said earlierI don't have a tv so I don't know.
I was just asked to do a hannah Montana for a girl who is 5. I know nothing about Hannah Montana but after looking at some cakes I think that I can make it look juvenile enough for a 5 year old. You know pink, purple and lots of guitars. What do you all think?? Is this inappropriate? Like I said earlierI don't have a tv so I don't know.
Should be ok... I would go to Yahoo and do an image search then find something very juvenile and cool.... lots of pink, purple and sparkles like you say. A lot of 5 year olds know her know because of her show on the Disney channel. Hope this helps!
I was just asked to do a hannah Montana for a girl who is 5. I know nothing about Hannah Montana but after looking at some cakes I think that I can make it look juvenile enough for a 5 year old. You know pink, purple and lots of guitars. What do you all think?? Is this inappropriate? Like I said earlierI don't have a tv so I don't know.
Should be ok... I would go to Yahoo and do an image search then find something very juvenile and cool.... lots of pink, purple and sparkles like you say. A lot of 5 year olds know her know because of her show on the Disney channel. Hope this helps!
I clearly remember a conversation I had with my younger brother when he was in high school. I come from a very traditional background, especially traditional in the aspects of dating when we were growing up. My brother was miserable because he said that the girls "just won't let me be nice to them". My brother is the tall/dark/handsome stereotype, to say the least, very athletic, and was always surrounded by friends, many of them girls. And I remember being so stunned by the fact that he would continuously try to do nice things for girls that he liked (or were just his friends), and would get slapped down for opening doors, or letting someone walk into a room first, or trying to carry their books for them - heck, even for just not swearing around them. Fortunately, he's grown up a little more now, and is comfortable just looking for people that respect themselves a little more. But for awhile there, really, even his very "in" crowd was tremendously insecure (that's all I can attribute the lack of respect to).
Wow ... this was supposed to be a two-line post
-Emi.
Ummm...Is he single? ![]()
I was just asked to do a hannah Montana for a girl who is 5. I know nothing about Hannah Montana but after looking at some cakes I think that I can make it look juvenile enough for a 5 year old. You know pink, purple and lots of guitars. What do you all think?? Is this inappropriate? Like I said earlierI don't have a tv so I don't know.
I am a high school teacher, and we are in the middle of reading a book all about the burden of being a woman. As part of the unit, I had the kids research the messages girls and teens are sent through the media. In one documentary, an ad executive actually claimed that "the body is a woman's best tool. Girls get the idea that they should flaunt their sexuality, even if they don't understand it. And it works for us - some of our most successful campaigns are run on this principle." We looked through the Internet and on magazines and nearly all of the ads aimed at women are targeted to make us thin, beautiful, perfectly coifed man-pleasing machines. There is no shortage of programming where the whole plot revolves around women disrespecting themselves. The message is getting through, loud and clear. When I asked my students earlier this year, "What is the best thing about being a girl/boy" over 50% of my girls responded, "There isn't anything good about being a girl."
Please, think about the clothes you buy your children. It isn't cute to see a four year old in a t-shirt that reads, "Naughty but nice" or a three-year old in a string bikini from Target (or anywhere else, for that matter). Children in elementary and middle school do not need to have their hair highlighted. It isn't cute to see teens parading through school with their breasts hanging out, or wearing shirts with disrespectful sayings on them. It isn't the highlight of my day when students come to tell me about friends who are in abusive relationships or who are feeling suicidal, but can't or won't talk to their parents about it.
Think about the programming you and/or your children watch. Are you a fan of shows like "The Girls Next Door" or "The Bachelor" or myriad others that I can mention, where women actively allow themselves to be treated badly? Or how about a steady diet of Disney programming where the children are all in charge and the adult characters act like fools who know nothing. If you tune in, you are supporting this culture of insanity.
Please, parents, think about this. Are you so busy working to give your child everything he/she WANTS that you don't have any energy left to give them what they NEED? They may say they want parents to be their friend; what they need is for parents to be their guide.
Sorry to be so preachy; this topic just set me off. It's been one of those days.
Amia and mlharvell:
You guys crack me up!
He is single ... and actually, he's currently in China on a project for his MBA (he's a civil engineer). Heehee .... what a happy cakey world it would be if my brother were to hook up with a caker
. A nice, decent, self-respecting caker who did not have the playboy bunny tattooed onto her bum when she was eight. ![]()
-Emi.
allie73.......very well said and I couldn't agree with you more on every point.
One of my employees recently brought in a picture of her granddaughter's 2 yr old baby boy. She was so upset because the baby had a t-shirt on that said "Hung like a 5 year old" on the front.
How disgustingly sad is that?
She was so upset because the baby had a t-shirt on that said "Hung like a 5 year old" on the front.
Now to me, that T-shirt crosses a serious line, and I'd have a HARD time not saying something to the parent if I saw a child wearing that. Adults shouldn't be referencing children's privates in the first place, unless it's for medical reasons. I can't believe that!! What kind of person/company makes a shirt like that and finds it cute? ![]()
She was so upset because the baby had a t-shirt on that said "Hung like a 5 year old" on the front.
I know, we couldn't believe it either. The grandmother is really quite sick over the entire thing. She has no contact with this baby's mother because she doesn't approve of the girl's boyfriend (baby's dad) he's in jail. Big surprise right? She only got the picture because the girl sent it to another relative.
Ironic thing about this girl.........she's a Middle School English Teacher. You'd think she'd have a little more sense then to put her 2 yr old child in a t-shirt like that.
I'd like to know where a shirt like that was made too.
Well said Allie~
I am not a prude by any means, but I agree that kids should be kids, they grow up fast enough as it is, so as a parent it is my job to make sure she doesn't have to do it too soon! My 4 year old asked me the other day if she could have fake nails like her friend from PRESCHOOL! I said she could when she could drive to the store and buy them...
We're also on the Bratz ban bandwagon, along with any other dolls that aren't fully dressed. I also don't let her wear bikinis, halter tops, miniskirts or any shoes with heels (why do they make toddler shoes with heels? They're barely stable with no shoes!!)..
Another one that gets me is people asking her if she has a boyfirend... Her best friend is a boy from daycare and everytime we say something about Aidan, someone feels in necessary to ask if he's her boyfriend... Drives me crazy, she'll want one soon enough, no reason to encourage it in preschool.
I also recently saw a little boy (2-3yrs) at the grocery store with highlighted hair
... Yeah, like that was his idea!!!
Oh, this topic really gets me going! Thanks for a place to vent!
whoa, whoa, .....I've heard the answer to my question!
So, emiyeric, he is single?
Tell us more!
LOL!!! I'm going to have to tell him to log onto CC when he gets back. We'll have him icing cuppies with the best of 'em before too long. That is too funny! ![]()
I did a google search for the 'hung like a 5 year old' shirt... There are a TON of places that sell them... You can even get it on a BIB!! Yuck
Wow, I was holding out to the hope that maybe the baby's mother had it made and it was a "one of a kind" ![]()
I think this is worse then the "Hooters" t-shirts they sell in kids sizes, I mean really what self-respecting parent would buy one of those for their little girl?
Wow!!
And I thought some shirts my brother wanted to get my son when he was a baby were bad....they had nothing on those!!! I just didn't want my child in little punk, monster, and skull and cross bone type shirts. They all had sayings on them that I can't remember now but I just remember getting into a fight with my brother about it. Mainly what it came down to was I didn't want to think of my son as being a little monster, etc.....I wanted to think of him as a sweet and innocent little baby boy!!!! Now I can't imagine how I would have reacted to that shirt.....scary!!!!!
Speaking of inappropriate shirts---I remember a picture being sent to me during football season a couple years ago. It had a picture of a little boy, probably about 3 or 4, flipping off the camera and he had a shirt on that said AUCK FUBURN (we're Auburn fans). I thought it was the most tasteless, tacky thing for someone to put a shirt like that on their child and teach them to flip the bird. I guess I am a prude......
Don't get me wrong...I enjoy college football and my kids will yell "WAR EAGLE!" with me but I would not teach them to flip off the other fans...or course I wouldn't do that either....it's just football!
Okay, so I guess that was a little off topic....but as a previous poster said....thanks for letting me vent!
I also recently saw a little boy (2-3yrs) at the grocery store with highlighted hair
I think the same thing when I see babies and really little girls with pierced ears. "Like that was their idea". I say if they are so little that mom has to take care of the pierced ears and put the earrings in, then they are too little to have pierced ears. My 16 year old still doesn't have pierced ears.
What irritates me about it is I see a mom who is treating her daughter like a toy; like a plaything for mom's entertainment. This is a real person ... not a toy for mom to play 'dress up' with!
a 6-month old baby has no idea what pierced ears are .... but MOM gets to show off her new "toy" to all of her little friends, so MOM can hear them ooooh and ahhhhh over it. (Where's a "vomit" emoticon when I need one?)
I just find it de-humanizing and humilating ... for the child. And I don't think that because I'm old .... I thought the same thing when my oldest daughter was born 30+ years ago and I REFUSED to put anything "cutesy" on her because as I told people back then ... "She's a person ... not a dress up doll."
I agree with Debi. My daughter is 3, and I dress her comfortably so she can play (let's face it, girls clothes aren't made for "play", they're made for being on dis"play"). So anyway, at first I objected to the color pink because of that whole "she's got to be cute" bit. Look at my avatar... the kid's ADORABLE already. (am I biased?
) She doesn't need a taffeta dress that will only give her a rash!! So she's into cars and dolls (the dolls I protested until age 2). Now I'm ok with them because they are HER choice. I'll drop dead before "Barbie" comes to my house... if she does, I'll pack her bags and she'll mysteriously "disappear." ![]()
I read an article once that mentioned that girls are told THEY are cute in an outfit. Boys are told the OUTFIT is cute. Interesting.... So when I'm asked about why she's not "dressed all cute", I say she's not a doll. Besides, she's cute anyway... I love my kid. ![]()
My child isn't a billboard or a free commercial ~ especially for a derogatory, sexually provocative message. Hooters onesies!!! Have you seen them? Let's set the woman's movement back a little more, shall we? ![]()
My child isn't a billboard or a free commercial ~
we wouldn't let our kids buy name brands just because it was a name brand. We were not going to get into that status stuff in clothes. Hubby would tell them, "When Tommy Hilfiger wears a shirt that says "Phil Brim" then you can spend money to advertise his clothes for him."
Cute Story: We found a winter coat for our oldest daughter at Sam's Club at a great price. Hubby looked at the coat and said, "GITANO! Is that a name brand?" Daughter, who was about 11, quickly said, "No, dad, that's Italian for "generic"!" It was such a good comeback that we HAD to let her have the coat and Gitano-Generic has become a standing joke in our house ever since!
I'm with you on the name brand stuff. I stay away from high end designers because it becomes more about the name than the product. I received a designer sweater once and it had a hole in it within a week!! (That's what I get for wearing someone's name across my breasts.)
I shop for shoes at Payless, and I'm not afraid to admit it. (looks around nervously) ![]()
Don't even get me started on the $4,000.00 strollers. ![]()
I just have to say i'm with you all on the name brand clothes and also on the mothers thinking their children are lil toys to show of with.
I have a 4yr old step daughter who is a very cute sweet lil girl, but who is slowly being turned into a very not so nice lil girl. or yes dare i say it a snob. I'm also the mother of two small boys and at my house we wear comfy clothes good for playing, when i try to dress my step daughter in these clothes, she acts as if i'm performing some sort of tortue, jeans and t-shirts, just aren't cool. Now i realize that this mostly comes from moms opinions and views, i'm not allowed to let her wear her "mommys" clothes at my house because they may get ruined..because at my house we play with awful things like god forbid playdoh and paint and such.
which her mommy doesn't allow her to have yes you guessed it becuz it may ruin her clothes..
I just think it's soo sad that "mommy" is taking this lil girl who once was a tomboy and turning her into a lil girl that actually makes fun of people becuase they aren't dressed cool enuff.
I don't remember worrying to much about that until i was much older than four!!!!
Maybe it's me, but I think a boobie cake for an 18 year old's birthday or a Prada cake for a 12 year old is -way- more appropriate than a pregnant belly cake for a baby shower no matter the age...
A boy old enough to fight in a war overseas is old enough to nosh on a buttercream boob. 12 year olds like fashion. I can't see any woman willing want to dress rehearse her c-section and consume the remains. 0_0
I can't see any woman willing want to dress rehearse her c-section and consume the remains. 0_0
lol
Totally agree!!! Have you seen the one with the creepy hand on the cake wrecks blog? Eeeeekkkk! ![]()
http://cakewrecks.blogspot.com/2009/02/hey-everybody-thish-cake-ish-from.html
I can't see any woman willing want to dress rehearse her c-section and consume the remains. 0_0
lol
http://cakewrecks.blogspot.com/2009/02/hey-everybody-thish-cake-ish-from.html
Yeah, that one was totally creepy. I just about choked when I first saw that picture with the arcrylic nails. *big shudder*
A boy old enough to fight in a war overseas is old enough to nosh on a buttercream boob.
Hands down - quote of the day!
I second the motion. Quote of the week!!!
lol
http://cakewrecks.blogspot.com/2009/02/hey-everybody-thish-cake-ish-from.html
I almost linked to that cake. It was exactly what I was thinking of when I made my post!
A boy old enough to fight in a war overseas is old enough to nosh on a buttercream boob.
Hands down - quote of the day!
I second the motion. Quote of the week!!!
*humble bow* I'm no Indydebi or Chutzpah, but I do my best. ![]()
But seriously, I'm not the world's most liberal person, but I think some of the cakes listed here as inappropriate aren't really. Kids aren't so fragile and teens are more sophisticated than folks give them credit for. I'd never make some of these cakes for my kiddos, but not because of any grand moral reason, it's just because my girls either wouldn't get it or wouldn't like it. If I made one, then yes, it would be inappropriate.
But, my niece wants a 'monkey brain' cake for her Indiana Jones themed birthday party. I think it's hilarious, but I'm sure there's folks out there who think that would be wildly inappropriate for a pre-teen girl, despite the fact the movie she got the idea from is targeted to her age group.
My point is appropriateness is in the eye of the beholder. Just as one doesn't assume a woman has a cannibalistic fetish when she orders a baby belly cake, it's unfair to assume a parent is horrible just because their 17 year old gets a Sex in the City Cosmo cake.
(my .02 on the subject
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