Thats should probably be "booty" not "bootie", LOL
I saw that 13-year-old daddy in the UK. He looked about 8, and he seemed totally in shock as to how this could have happened! I'm a high school teacher, so I am a bit jaded and well aware of what they are up to. It can be frightening!
Indydebi~~~ Are you shure you are not my mom?? Your house sounds quite a bit like mine. For the record, I knew way more than my parents EVER would have guessed and long before they imagined I knew it. I too would like to keep my DD my baby for as long as I can. But, unfortunately in this mixed up crazy world we live in, I will err on the side of informed over innocent. Especially after seeing the article last week about the 13 year old father in Britain.....
I saw that article.... WOW that kid did not not look a day over 7yrs old??!!
I'm not a prude, but it still grieves me that kids know so much so early. I realized my little daughter knew more than I thought when she started laughing at the jokes my husband and I exchanged thinking they'd go over her head. We may not be able to prevent everything they see and know, but we don't have to encourage it ourselves.
I saw a titty cake on here that a woman made for her 16 year old son. I know 16 year old boys like boobs and know all about them, but that just seemed really tasteless to me.
I'm no prude either, and this isn't "morally" motivated, BUT~
I just LOVE how the media, etc. continues to reduce women to talking slabs of meat. Pieces and parts... 
Not that anyone cares, but this does have a long term effect on children (both female and male). Yeah, it's fun to laugh and make light of it... why should woman develop their minds when we can focus all our attention on our breasts and clothing? How often is an "unattractive" woman portrayed as a leading lady? Oh, that's right... her place is as the "frumpy, mousy side-kick", who might, if lucky, get the leftovers. The only time I can think of where a "so called" ugly woman got the handsome guy was "Big Fat Greek Wedding", and that was AFTER they glammed her up. Give me a break. 
OH~ I won't do the BRATZ dolls either, because one of them (the blonde) looks and dresses exactly like my 56 yr old mother.
I'm making a Hannah Montana cake next weekend for my 6 year old. I have no problem with it - she likes the show, listens to her music and plays with the dolls. She doesn't really see anything other than the Hannah Montana stuff and I still think she thinks Miley is a whole different person. She also has some Bratz dolls but is the most modest 6 year old in the world - she even refuses a two piece bathing suit. A lady at work (who is 62) said to me today "isn't she a little young for Hannah Montana?"
At least for the time being Hannah still has a cute popstar disney image...my dd doesn't watch gossip show or anything, she only sees what I allow her to see, so she is still kind of naive. I think its just more important that parents are aware and "awake" to what kids are into and keep an eye on it. My parents hid nothing from me...I have seen some pretty bad movies as a young child that I wouldn't let me kids watch now - but it didn't effect me for the bad...I graduated college, got a job, got married, had kids, no drug/sex/behavioral problems - so it is really just what you think your child can handle and how you present it to them.
**But no playboy bunnies until they are 18, haha. Maybe a male stripper cake when they are at their stagette (hopefully at 30!), ok, alcoholic beverages at 18 - now that its in writing its final, lol**
I never said kids didn't know about things, but there's a difference between knowing what your kids have knowledge of and encouraging them at it. Yes, I knew what a playboy bunny was and pot and beer and sex etc......from a very young age. Heck, I had an older sister who was quite a wild child, so I had probably tried a few of those things much earlier than some.
Never the less......my parents would never have dreamed of giving me a playboy bunny cake at 12. As I said, no need to try and keep your children young and naive, only to give them an idea of what is appropriate and what is not. There is a huge difference between knowing what your kids are thinking and encouraging them to do it.
I would assume my high schoolers (if I had them) were having sex and drinking beer. But I wouldn't buy them pasties and 6-packs.
Luckily my boys are still very very young, so I have a while to go before I feel the need to make them a boobie cake.......! Ha!
My kids are grown so I've never seen Hannah Montana. I have the impression that most Disney stuff is pretty sanitized. I think the Bratz dolls are hideous in every way.
K2cakes, I TOTALLY agree with you about how women are still objectified in the media. I'm so proud of my mother and her peers who were brave enough as feminists to take on the status quo in the workplace. My work life and my daughter's are vastly better because of them, but I have a feeling that a lot of young women don't realize how bad it was and how good they have it because of their feminist grandmas. My blood runs cold when I hear young women say disrespectful things about feminists.
And you're right - it's ALL on parents to make sure they monitor what their kids hear and see. You can't trust that to anyone else (and why would you want to?).
Its not that we are not aware of how mature the children are today its just unbelievable how the parents are so open to certain subjects with children so young. What will they be into when they are 16 and 17? Maybe I am old-fashioned........
Ruth~ you are awesome! (can't believe I just used "awesome"...)
I agree that we cannot keep our kids in a bubble (or so I'd like, just kidding ), but we can monitor and discuss situations. Kids are going to see these images out in the world but why not keep that communication open. I read that even images a 9 month old sees can be remembered on a subconscious level, mostly trauma related, but still it was and eye-opener.
About the BRATZ dolls, one really does look like my Mom. That really freaks me out. My 3yr old daughter picked one up once and said~ "this looks just like Nana!". 
About the BRATZ dolls, one really does look like my Mom. That really freaks me out. My 3yr old daughter picked one up once and said~ "this looks just like Nana!".
Haha, that's hilarious! She better be careful that no one picks it up to use it as a voodoo doll, lol. That would likely creep me out a bit too!
I would assume my high schoolers (if I had them) were having sex and drinking beer. But I wouldn't buy them pasties and 6-packs.
Luckily my boys are still very very young, so I have a while to go before I feel the need to make them a boobie cake.......! Ha!
Forget the pasties and 6 packs, condoms condoms condoms. Including a condom cake!
I havent read this whole thread yet, but as someone on the younger side (I've been called the "baby" of CC) it's ridiculous to go to class and hear girls talking at completely audible volume about the men they "accidentally" slept with the night before. GROSS! I was raised to have better morals than that.
The book "Prude: How the oversexed culture damages girls (And America too!)" by Carol Platt Leibuo (I cant spell her last name) Is really shocking and well written. If anyone has an interest in an indepth look at how sexual culture has changed over the last 100 years, I highly recomend it. Don't eat while reading it, some of the facts will make you drop your jaw.
Well, I don't care if a kid understands what a PB bunny is or not, It's still innappropriate for a kid to have a PB bunny anything. PB is still porn. Unfortunately, it's become socially acceptable porn. So because it's socially acceptable, it's OK. Sort of like when the Romans threw people to the lions for entertainment....that was OK too.
I won't do a PB cake or a stripper cake for anybody (that's just my choice), MUCH LESS a minor.
I am disgusted with the way sex is shoved down our kids throats....as if teenagers aren't thinking enough about it all by themselves. It's all about the money. Hefner and the rest of them don't give a rip about our kids, they only care for money and what money can get them. Now PB has gone mainstream. I'm sure ol' Hef is really happy about that. I wonder what he would do if he saw his 5 year old granddaughter (if he had one) sporting a pink purse with a PB bunny on it? As sick as he is, he would probably be proud.
My son-in-law was at the mall awhile back and saw a little girl about 10, wearing a "Hustler" t-shirt. Good Grief!!
I am also disgusted with the way "Sports Ilustrated" has made women into a "sport". Women are on the cover now more than sports stars are.
As you can tell, this subject really gets me going. YES, YES, YES, I am sick of the inappropriate garbage-including cakes-that these parents provide for their kids. My kids have to grow up and work with and live around these people.
Please be aware that I am not talking about people whose kids are into pop stars etc....I am talking about people who let their little boys hang girlie pics and Budweiser posters in their bedrooms and let their little girls read Cosmo. These are the people who request the PB/stripper cakes for their kids and teens.
It's quite probable that they just don't know any better. They were probably brought up that way and think that there is nothing wrong with it. After all, this country no longer has a central value system where things are right and wrong for everyone. It's all about what's right or wrong for the individual. The only problem with that is...we all have to live collectively.
I havent read this whole thread yet, but as someone on the younger side (I've been called the "baby" of CC) it's ridiculous to go to class and hear girls talking at completely audible volume about the men they "accidentally" slept with the night before. GROSS! I was raised to have better morals than that.
The book "Prude: How the oversexed culture damages girls (And America too!)" by Carol Platt Leibuo (I cant spell her last name) Is really shocking and well written. If anyone has an interest in an indepth look at how sexual culture has changed over the last 100 years, I highly recomend it. Don't eat while reading it, some of the facts will make you drop your jaw.
I've read this book and you're right, I felt like I needed a shower sometimes while reading it.
We were in Newport, RI over the weekend to listen to one of my friend's brother's bands. While we were waiting for the band to come on we were sitting on stools near some pool tables where a group of Salve Regina College kids were, guys and girls. One loud mouth guy in particular was referring to one of the girls as "his Bitch".
These kids were about my kids age 19 - 21ish. At first I thought I was hearing things, but nope I wasn't. Every time he spoke to her he prefaced his comment with the "B" word and she would sit there and giggle. THAT shocked me even more.
Not being one to keep my mouth shut, (in case any of you haven't noticed that by now), I turned to the girl and said "Why do you let him speak to you like that?" Her response was "Oh, I think he's funny".
FUNNY? She thought it was funny to be called a "Bitch".
My DH being the moderator he is politely told the guy to clean up his language and have respect for his girlfriend.
It ruined my night, because I would hope that my DD has enough sense to understand why it is not OK for any guy to call any woman a bitch.
What is wrong with some of these kids? I never was called that by a boyfriend when I was dating.......I wouldn't have tolerated it.
Don't they have any respect for themselves? It's just sad..........
My son-in-law was at the mall awhile back and saw a little girl about 10, wearing a "Hustler" t-shirt. Good Grief!! .
Isn't exposing children to hardcore (if any) porn considered a crime and a window into sexual abuse? I believe it is in our State. If someone had sex in front of their children (or made them watch) those people would be in jail if anyone found out. I don't think a 10 yr old wearing "HUSTLER" (or playboy) t-shirt is in anyway cute, because a parent is allowing that girl to objectify herself and advertise to perverts "my Mom says it's "ok"..." (sorry, but that lit a fuse...)
There is a big difference between an art exhibit (Bernini, etc) involving the human form and pornography. Pornography is meant only to sexually arouse and has no socially redeeming quality ~ no depth. I suppose pornography has it's "place" in our society and I'm not judging those who want (or need) it. BUT~ Children should be allowed a full childhood, and parents have a responsibility to make sure they do.
Do Prada purses come in kids sizes? This is a serious question.
Good question..........probably these days they do I got my first "designer" bag on my 40th B-Day from all my brothers and sisters, they chipped in for it.
The sad thing about that was I really wanted them to buy me an Agbay
The funny thing about it was I have 2 "fake" bags and honestly you really have to look close to see the difference between the fakes and the real one.
I'd rather take the hundreds of $$ and put it in a college fund..........they'll get a lot more out of the education then they will out of some handbag, but, that's just my "educated" opinion. 
dkelly sorry if this is a stupid question but what is an agbay?????
dkelly sorry if this is a stupid question but what is an agbay?????
Not a stupid question at all........believe me it's not an inappropriate "sex toy" or anything! LOL!
Here'a a link, it's an awesome, must have caker's tool! It's the most used thing in my kitchen. (my dh bought it for me)
http://www.agbayproducts.com/
This thread has me thinking about my own daughter, who's 3 ... so I just went into her room to check on her ~ she was sound asleep, blankets all up around here head, cheeks red and drooling... so I kissed her cheek and wiped my eyes.
If children (in and of themselves) aren't the epitome of perfection, I don't know what is.
I never was called that by a boyfriend when I was dating.......I wouldn't have tolerated it.
Don't they have any respect for themselves? It's just sad..........
You better believe that if any man tried to call me that I'd walk out. That is NOT ok, ever, no matter how "funny" it supposedly is. The problem with all these younger girls allowing men to disrespect them is that that is what men are going to consider normal, and that is what they will expect. It's sad.
I feel where you All or coming from. Am 30 and i feel the kids are wayyyyy to grown-up. T.v. has part in this too, We live in holland and it ok to buy alcohol and sigs once your older than 16 ,so yeah what can you really do?? But if i clap my daughters lil butt she can jump and call a childrensline if she feel it's abuse. well well where was that phone # when my mom was whopping my butt LOLOLOLOL CrAzY
I clearly remember a conversation I had with my younger brother when he was in high school. I come from a very traditional background, especially traditional in the aspects of dating when we were growing up. My brother was miserable because he said that the girls "just won't let me be nice to them". My brother is the tall/dark/handsome stereotype, to say the least, very athletic, and was always surrounded by friends, many of them girls. And I remember being so stunned by the fact that he would continuously try to do nice things for girls that he liked (or were just his friends), and would get slapped down for opening doors, or letting someone walk into a room first, or trying to carry their books for them - heck, even for just not swearing around them. Fortunately, he's grown up a little more now, and is comfortable just looking for people that respect themselves a little more. But for awhile there, really, even his very "in" crowd was tremendously insecure (that's all I can attribute the lack of respect to).
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-Emi.
Wow! I must really live in small midwestern town! I've never had one of these requests for a child. I'd be knocked off my butt if I heard one, and I certainly wouldn't do one for sure! I'm not so upset over the designer purse cakes for teens...after all, they're pretty cool looking. What 7-year-old child should really know what Gucci or Prada is, though? But ,the Playboy bunnies and the sweaty strippers? What are parents thinking? Is that supposed to be cute or funny or what? I just don't get it. When little Susie comes home pregnant at 15 what will mommy and daddy think then? Will that be cute too?
It's funny I saw this thread because just this morning my neighbor asked me if I could make a Playboy Bunny cake for her daughter who turns 6 next month. I told her I had a lot to do and didn't think I would have the time. I asked her how Jade knew about Playboy Bunnies and she said "Oh, she watches that show "The Girls Next Door" and it's her favorite show!". Oh, okay.
I did know what a Playboy Bunny was when I was her age because my cousin was one in Chicago and later was in the magazine. But like many of the everyone's relatives she was the one who showed up at our cousin's funeral (29 died of leukemia in 79) with a halter top, Daisy Dukes and go-go boots.
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