Break From Traditional Decorators Icing
Decorating By CakeInfatuation Updated 9 Nov 2008 , 9:02pm by CakeInfatuation
When I was a kid my aunt had a recipe for white icing that I thought was soooo good I was a 14 year old that asked for a recipe. I haven't made it in YEARS because it had flour in it and I kept getting lumpy icing. ha ha I'm a much better cook these days and know how to make a white sauce without lumps (Praise the Lord!!) and I'm thinking I'm going to try again.
Before I make this icing I wanted to know if any of you have used an icing that had flour in it to ice cakes? I've found a few online and one of the ones I found says that it is a "decorator icing".
I'd really like some feedback. WHY am I searching for an alternate recipe? Simply put... I HATE BUTTERCREAM. It's too heavy and way to cavity sweet for me. I really like a lighter feeling icing. Ideally, I'd have buckets of Rich's Bettercream to work with. But... not happening. So... If I can find an icing I can decorate with (basically cover the cake in and put between the layers and NOT have the layers slide around), then I'm a happy woman. I really prefer fondant decorating so I don't care about piping a rose.
SMBC and IMBC are both very expensive with all the egg whites and they don't hold up well. I LOVE the flavor, but the stress for me, isn't worth it. I can't get it thick enough to not slide around.
Here's my Aunt's Recipe:
1 cup milk
1/2 cup flour
1/4 tsp salt
1 cup sugar
1 tsp vanilla
1 cup crisco
Cook flour, salt, and milk until thick like white sauce. Let cool.
Cream together sugar and shortening till light and fluffy.
Add cooled sauce and vanilla. Beat till stiff.
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Cake Decorators Icing
Basic Recipe:
By Marjorie Geddes
1 cup of flour
1 cup of shortening
1/2 tsp of salt
1/2 cup of water
- icing sugar
Mix flour and shortening till fluffy and add salt. Add water a little at a time mixing after each addition. Add icing sugar a little at a time until desired consistency is achieved.
There are comments on cooked pudding frostings in this thread:
(As well as other recipes.)
http://www.cakecentral.com/cake-decorating-ftopicp-6011626-.html
HTH
Here is my mom's favorite recipe, she used this for my sister's wedding cake and everyone loved it.
Wedding Cake Frosting
3/4 c AP flour
3/4 c water
1 c crisco
1 tsp salt
3 tsp vanilla
7-8 c powdered sugar
Mix all together til smooth.
Hey Shill,
thanks for the recipes... but unfortunately i am not as experienced in the kitchen and I still get lumpy frosting when trying recipes similar to these. What is the trick??? I would love to try these as having a less sweet frosting is great!!!
TIA
Take your flour and water or flour and milk and while the liquid is still cold, put it in a container with a lid and SHAKE SHAKE SHAKE. If you mix the flour with cold liquid then put it in your pan to heat, you should be able to avoid lumps. ![]()
I used this recipe for a class practice cake about three weeks ago. The frosting was delish and not hard at all to make. I did press the cooled flour mixture thru a sieve to make sure there were no lumps. This icing has a very soft and silky texture and like I said, very tasty. It does not crust, at least mine didn't. I used this to fill and frost then added the standard bc for my decoating stuff. This reminded me of a recipe I have used in the past on my Easter Lamb cakes, it is I think like the Swiss or Italian buttercreme where you make the sugar syrup and add to the butter. I liked it, dh loves the yuck practice stuff from the shortening. Go figure.
hugs,
Well I made my Aunts Recipe. The flavor is fantastic, the texture is very much like SMBC or IMBC. The biggest difference I think is that it appears more stable.
I'm all done and it is in the fridge until I make the cake on Friday. Until then.... I'll update how it goes when I frost the cake. I'm hoping the fridge firms it up a bit so it is a little stiffer. I think it will be really easy to ice with it but to cover with fondant????? Not so sure about that.
That sounds just like the traditional cooked frosting I use on red velvet cake, except that my recipe calls for butter instead of shortening (and no salt). I'll have to try yours. If it's as good as my recipe, but more stable, then I might've found a new icing too! ![]()
This sounds really good Shill. Are you using regular granulated sugar and if so, is the texture grainy at all?
Amy, I agree, it is the same as the traditional (so many think cream cheese is "traditional") cooked frosting used on Red Velvet Cake. Southern style is traditionally the butter version, not the Crisco. Recently, I had been researching other Red Velvet recipes and noticed the Crisco version of the cooked frosting and had put it on my "to try" list. I'm glad this post popped up. It is such a yummy, unique flavored frosting. I love it!
Amy, I agree, it is the same as the traditional (so many think cream cheese is "traditional") cooked frosting used on Red Velvet Cake. Southern style is traditionally the butter version, not the Crisco. Recently, I had been researching other Red Velvet recipes and noticed the Crisco version of the cooked frosting and had put it on my "to try" list. I'm glad this post popped up. It is such a yummy, unique flavored frosting. I love it!
Yep, so many are just horribly misinformed.
The cooked frosting is soo much better...it's the only icing I can eat by the spoonful!
hi everyone,
i've read somewhere (i tried hard, but can't recall where), the cooked frosting will taste fantastic on the day it is made, but come the next day, it will taste like flour..
i've made this once, it was delicious, but since the cake was gone the same day, i couldn't know whether the point above is a fact or a myth.
anyone can share their experience? thanks.
Haven't put it on the cake yet BUT I did stick it in the fridge and smear some on toffee chocolate chip cookies I made yesterday to give it a "taste test".
So far... it didn't harden it is so soft and creamy. Definitely YUMMY! I only made one batch and it isn't going to be enough so I need to make a 2nd batch. I'm going to do the 2nd batch and cook my white sauce a little longer this time till it gets thicker. I want a stiffer frosting and think that if I get a thicker white sauce, I'll be in better shape.
As far as the stability... PERFECT!!! Taste is so light. Not grainy or floury at all. For different flavors... I'm wondering if you can replace the milk for flavored coffee creamers. And of course you could add different extracts. I just added vanilla. Off the spoon it almost has a marshmallow taste. But it has the texture of IMBC without falling apart.
I can't understand the recipes that call for flour and don't say anything about cooking. You have to cook the flour to avoid the grainy texture.
Hooray!!! It's done!!!
I used the boiled flour icing. Here's the link to the finished cake.
http://www.cakecentral.com/modules.php?name=gallery&file=displayimage&pid=1285455&done=1
Yep.. the icing is under the fondant.
NO WAY would I be able to get that look with boiled icing. ha ha It's too slippery and sticky.
shill, did it get thicker by cooking the white sauce longer & did it taste as good after standing for a long period as it did when you first made it? Your cake is absolutely fantastic, was this icing easy to cover with the fondant? Sorry so many questions LOL.
hi everyone,
i've read somewhere (i tried hard, but can't recall where), the cooked frosting will taste fantastic on the day it is made, but come the next day, it will taste like flour..
i've made this once, it was delicious, but since the cake was gone the same day, i couldn't know whether the point above is a fact or a myth.
anyone can share their experience? thanks.
I made the cooked flour/milk recipe and put it away in fridge. (Kind of forgot..heh heh
) A few days later, took it out, ate some & had family try some, they said it tasted "custard-ey" and "flour-ey". I'd probably use it for the Red Velvet as long as it got all ate that day.
I used Buttercream Dream with Sugarshack's Wedding Bouquet on the big red velvet cake heart-shape in my pix and the cake didn't get all ate up. (And not one person tossed their cake, either! They just had a lot!!) So they froze pieces in the freezer. 3-4 mo later, they were eating it and it was just as good if not better than the day it was ate! Gave myself a double thumbs up on that one! ![]()
Whew! ![]()
Okay... here's the report.
The party was this evening. They absolutely LOVED the cake. My friend said that she liked this icing better than the IMBC/SMBC can't remember which it was that I used on my July 4th cake.
I also was able to make a very nice stable filling for the cake using my aunt's recipe as the base. To the original icing recipe I scooped out about 2 cups and then added 1/4 cup of cocoa powder, 1 cup powdered sugar, and 1/4 cup melted semi sweet chocolate chips. It was the perfect "glue/filling" for a layered cake. She said "I don't know what you had between those layers but it was awesome!".
So hooray for fondant covered cakes with a cooked flour icing under the fondant! I've found my icing for when I don't want to do buttercream. Hooray!!!
I used my aunts recipe, the variation with the chocolate, fondant, royal icing, gum paste, & piping gel for the cake.
The cake flavor itself is double chocolate.
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