Imbc And Smbc

Decorating By flavacakes Updated 13 Aug 2007 , 4:18am by ShirleyW

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flavacakes Posted 24 Jul 2007 , 2:58am
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http://forum.cakecentral.com/cake_recipe-2426-2-Italian-Meringue-Buttercream--Shirleys-Method.html

Here's a link to Shirley's IMBC. I've never tried either, I will for the first time next week. I'll be making Elisa Straus' recipe from The Confetti Cakes Cookbook. I don't think I can post her recipe on here though and I'm not sure if it's posted any where else. HTH

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imagine76 Posted 24 Jul 2007 , 3:06am
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thank you! i found a SMBC recipe. i was spelling meringue wrong. it's been a long day. let us know how yours turned out!

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imagine76 Posted 24 Jul 2007 , 3:11am
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Oh, forgot to ask, does it have to be refrigerated?

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lilthorner Posted 24 Jul 2007 , 3:15am
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It has been said that it can stay out 1-2 days but i don't have AC LOL..

Elissa strauss's recipe is given at baking911
here http://www.baking911.com/asksarahbb/index.php?showtopic=3369

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cakebaker1957 Posted 24 Jul 2007 , 1:56pm
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The taste and texture are very close to being the same. Two different methods of making the icing, I think IMBC is very fast and easy to make, others feel SMBC is easier. I think you have to experiment and find the one that works best for you.



What is IMBC i know the other one, but not this oneThanks



It's Italian Meringue Buttercream.




Is the receipe on CC site?? If not would you share it with me??
Thanks

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ShirleyW Posted 24 Jul 2007 , 3:24pm
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The taste and texture are very close to being the same. Two different methods of making the icing, I think IMBC is very fast and easy to make, others feel SMBC is easier. I think you have to experiment and find the one that works best for you.



What is IMBC i know the other one, but not this oneThanks



It's Italian Meringue Buttercream.



Is the receipe on CC site?? If not would you share it with me??
Thanks




Here you go.
http://forum.cakecentral.com/cake_recipe-2426-Italian-Meringue-Buttercream--Shirleys-Method.html

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cakebaker1957 Posted 24 Jul 2007 , 3:40pm
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The taste and texture are very close to being the same. Two different methods of making the icing, I think IMBC is very fast and easy to make, others feel SMBC is easier. I think you have to experiment and find the one that works best for you.



What is IMBC i know the other one, but not this oneThanks



It's Italian Meringue Buttercream.



Is the receipe on CC site?? If not would you share it with me??
Thanks



Here you go.

Thank you ,
http://forum.cakecentral.com/cake_recipe-2426-Italian-Meringue-Buttercream--Shirleys-Method.html


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Dixiegal01 Posted 28 Jul 2007 , 3:00am
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I have a question....I've made a French Vanilla cake and am going to torte with strawberry. I'm going to make Shirley W's IMBC for the first time, question is should I omit the orange extract since I'm torting with strawberry? If so, do I use vanilla instead? Help! I can't wait to taste the IBMC, I've heard so much about it icon_smile.gif

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RRGibson Posted 28 Jul 2007 , 3:04am
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I have a question....I've made a French Vanilla cake and am going to torte with strawberry. I'm going to make Shirley W's IMBC for the first time, question is should I omit the orange extract since I'm torting with strawberry? If so, do I use vanilla instead? Help! I can't wait to taste the IBMC, I've heard so much about it icon_smile.gif




I would say yes omit it and use vanilla, or strawberry extract if you have it. Or if yu don't mind the icing being pink, you could even add strawberry puree.

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Dixiegal01 Posted 28 Jul 2007 , 3:29am
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Thanks RRGibson. I think I'll use the vanilla, I'm making the cake for my son and hubby, they would crack up if I made them a pink cake! Thanks so much for the advice thumbs_up.gif

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RRGibson Posted 28 Jul 2007 , 4:01am
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No problem icon_biggrin.gif

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melysa Posted 28 Jul 2007 , 7:34pm
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Thanks RRGibson. I think I'll use the vanilla, I'm making the cake for my son and hubby, they would crack up if I made them a pink cake! Thanks so much for the advice thumbs_up.gif




funny you say that. my son turned 8 on tuesday. i made banana cake w/ strawberry imbc using puree. it was pink. icon_lol.gif it tasted REALLY good though! plus none of his friends saw it, so i didnt get into any trouble.

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RRGibson Posted 30 Jul 2007 , 7:08pm
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Ha! That's funny. It's soooo delicious though!

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melysa Posted 30 Jul 2007 , 10:20pm
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i just wanted to mention that i used smbc underneath fondant for the first time this weekend, on a 4 tier cake, and though i was nervous, it WORKED GREAT!!! i liked the results even better than "regular" buttercream. i have definately converted icon_smile.gif

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ljberry Posted 31 Jul 2007 , 1:21am
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what is IMBC and SMBC and another one WMSB or something that starts with a W lol?

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melysa Posted 31 Jul 2007 , 1:31am
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italian or swiss meringue buttercream. i dont know what wmsb is...

imbc and smbc are mainly butter and eggwhites, a little sugar and vanilla. they can be flavored with extracts, chocolate, liquors and fruit purees. the icing is like silk , less sweet than "regular" buttercream and is really really yummy.

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ljberry Posted 31 Jul 2007 , 2:16am
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Wow thanks. I've had people ask for an icing thats not so sweet, I'll have to try these.

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ShirleyW Posted 31 Jul 2007 , 3:14am
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I think you are refering to WBH buttercream, which is from a cake decorating book called Whimsical Bakehouse. The IMBC and SMBC are Italian meringue and Swiss meringue buttercreams.

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ShirleyW Posted 31 Jul 2007 , 3:17am
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I have a question....I've made a French Vanilla cake and am going to torte with strawberry. I'm going to make Shirley W's IMBC for the first time, question is should I omit the orange extract since I'm torting with strawberry? If so, do I use vanilla instead? Help! I can't wait to taste the IBMC, I've heard so much about it icon_smile.gif




I have to tell you the small amount of orange extract along with the Vanilla does not make ths icing taste orange or citrus flavored, it just adds a fresh taste to it and I think cuts down on the sweetness.

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chleonard Posted 1 Aug 2007 , 9:33pm
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after you add the butter to the meringue, do you switch to the paddle attachment? i have heard that this will help remove air bubbles. is that true? i make IMBC but usually just keep the whisk on the whole time.

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lilthorner Posted 4 Aug 2007 , 11:50pm
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i use the paddle after I add the butter (rather when I add the butter)

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ShirleyW Posted 5 Aug 2007 , 12:27am
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I whip the whites with the whisk attachment and use it to beat in the cooked syrup, when cool I switch too the paddle attachement and beat in the butter. I think switching to the paddle at that point helps to prevent air bubbles in the finished icing.

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golfgirl1227 Posted 6 Aug 2007 , 8:50am
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You can actually melt IMBC down some and pour it, but it won't work with SMBC (ok, I never tried it and failed with SMBC, but thats what my chef said)




LOL, just did this today in the back of my vehicle by leaving a pastry bag of icing (my "in case of emergency") while I went to Lowe's after I delivered a cake. Came out of Lowe's, started loading stuff into the back and next thing I know, melted IMBC squirted all over the back of my car!!! I was in hurry when I ran out the door and just grabbed the bag, won't make that mistake again!!!!!!!!!!!!

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mbarbi Posted 6 Aug 2007 , 11:34am
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made a cake with IMBC...loved the taste...it's just that i had a hard time decorating the cake because the icing is sooo soft...it's so hot and humid here in our place...had to transfer to an airconditioned room upstairs to finish my cake.

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flavacakes Posted 10 Aug 2007 , 8:31pm
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Don't hate me guys...I wasn't too crazy for it! icon_eek.gif I had a recipe for lemon IMBC and almost gagged when I tried it, I think it had way too much butter in it. Then I tried Elisa Strauss' SMBC and although it was much better, I think I like the traditional buttercream better! Although I am one of those people who actually like to eat fondant. So I already weird. icon_lol.gif Other people did like it though, so I'll make it for those who request it.

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4starcakes Posted 11 Aug 2007 , 7:37pm
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Dumb question????? Do these icings crust?

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FromScratch Posted 11 Aug 2007 , 10:27pm
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No such thing as a dumb question.. and no.. they don't.

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ceshell Posted 11 Aug 2007 , 10:49pm
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Don't hate me guys...I wasn't too crazy for it! icon_eek.gif I had a recipe for lemon IMBC and almost gagged when I tried it, I think it had way too much butter in it. Then I tried Elisa Strauss' SMBC and although it was much better, I think I like the traditional buttercream better! Although I am one of those people who actually like to eat fondant. So I already weird. icon_lol.gif Other people did like it though, so I'll make it for those who request it.




We won't hate you! Everyone likes different things. However, were you sure to add enough flavoring? The IMBC recipe I use calls for "2-3 tsp" of flavoring and I can tell you, when I did it with just 2 tsp of vanilla I really did NOT like the icing at all, just tasted like butter to me. One teeny additional tsp and boom-heaven in a mixing bowl. I couldn't believe the difference such a small amount of flavoring made.

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flavacakes Posted 12 Aug 2007 , 4:12am
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Don't hate me guys...I wasn't too crazy for it! icon_eek.gif I had a recipe for lemon IMBC and almost gagged when I tried it, I think it had way too much butter in it. Then I tried Elisa Strauss' SMBC and although it was much better, I think I like the traditional buttercream better! Although I am one of those people who actually like to eat fondant. So I already weird. icon_lol.gif Other people did like it though, so I'll make it for those who request it.



We won't hate you! Everyone likes different things. However, were you sure to add enough flavoring? The IMBC recipe I use calls for "2-3 tsp" of flavoring and I can tell you, when I did it with just 2 tsp of vanilla I really did NOT like the icing at all, just tasted like butter to me. One teeny additional tsp and boom-heaven in a mixing bowl. I couldn't believe the difference such a small amount of flavoring made.




Thanks ceshell! I put what it called for in the recipe. I will try it again and add more flavoring. It was just the one lemon one, it totally tasted like butter. Just butter, I seriously almost gagged! I tried two different recipes and the lemon one had way more butter in it than the other.

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FromScratch Posted 12 Aug 2007 , 2:50pm
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Stick with Shirley's IMBC recipe.. the ones that call for 2.5 pounds of butter to 10 egg whites are too buttery for me.. I make SMBC using the same amounts that are called for in Shirley's IMBC and it is great. I have made Shirley's IMBC too and it was also great. And do make sure you add lots of flavorings.. What was the recipe for the lemon one? I make a lemon SMBC that is really good, but you add lemon curd to it. Lemon extract is gross to me unless you are adding some citic acid to it as well to get some tang.. you need the tangy aspect of the lemon and the extract doesn't have it.

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