Huge Rose Tip...how Do You Do It?
Decorating By girltrapped Updated 13 Aug 2006 , 2:08am by loves2bake
I purchased a huge rose tip and haven't had any success in getting it to work. I don't have it with me (at work ) so I don't know the number but it is identical to a 104 only the tip is about an inch or so bigger.
I use the stick method for doing roses. Is that my problem? Do I need to use the Wilton way? It just seems as if the frosting is so heavy when you get that much going on one rose it just starts to droop and fall...but it has to work right? I mean they make the tip!
Anyone have any experience with this tip?
Could it be a 127 D? If so I use it to ice the cake top and sides. I would love to see someone attempt a monster rose with it though
I don't what the stick method is, but the Wilton way is very easy, with practice of course.If it's drooping, sounds like icing may be a bit too thin. You don't want it thick either, but heavy enough to hold it's shape.
HTH
I have that HUGE tip, but have never used it for a rose. I don't even know what you'd use for a base (1/4 cup of stiff BC??!!) LOL I'd love to see one of those big roses though!
Now I'm feeling motivated. I have those tips, thought about making giant roses, but never have. I think I will now! I will NOT use the stick trick (directions on cake central), too heavy. Definately will use a flower nail!
Sorry I forgot, I have used Hershey kiss for center of rose before. It was great suprise for kids cupcakes. Easy to make too. The petels are easy to pipe, the center/base is the hard part, for me anyway. The white kisses might work well too. They make so many flavors and colors for Kisses now.
I'm not sure the kisses would be a large enough base for that monster rose-unless you are using the GIANT kisses! Please somebody try these and post them!
That is the tip I use for ruffles and the like, also for doing some flowers on the cake but never a rose. If you make a giant rose please share. I wonder if you could start with a gumpaste center like you would for gumpaste flowers. Theres a thought...
I smell a challenge with an insulin dependent outcome
Any takers?? I'm making two cakes tonight, if I get bored Well, We'll see.
I have one of these, but never used it..
Well for the base, how about using that giant Chocolate Kiss ?
Not the little tiny one for the little rose, but one of those
much bigger ones. Like we see on Valentines, sometimes there are those medium size ones also.
Hmmm. Now I have the tip 127D and the smaller tip 127. I did make a giant rose, but now I can't remember which tip I used. But, what I did was, I just used the tip to make a base and I used my "plunger" portion of my push measuring cup (see here: http://www.pamperedchef.com/our_products/catalog/product.jsp?productId=210&categoryCode=KW) as my psudeo flower nail. If you look in my photos, the going away texas cake has a big yellow rose...[/url]
I have used the extra large rose tip before. It was for a Spring Lady's Tea, brunch at a church fundraiser. I used the extra large 4 muffin pan ( You know the ones that are rounded at the bottom.) and used the cakes as the base. The rose cakes were used for individual cakes and they were a hit. They were a lot of work too.... I made over 50 of them. I made them the same way I would on the Wilton nail. They were beautiful for a spring brunch and they didn't even need table decorations, because the cakes looked like the decorations. It isn't difficult if you are good with the rose.
Vicky
A lady in my CourseIII class did it. She worked at a grocery store bakery and was talking about how fast she had to be at work. We were practicing our ruffles and she whipped out a nail and I looked at the clock and the next thing I know she's showing me this gigantic rose. Never did see her do it or get a chance to ask what she used as a base. But it can be done. Maybe if my FBCT doesn't work out I'll try some big fat roses. LOL my 8yro nephew is expecting a Harley Davidson cake, don't think he'd be too impressed.
Vicky: Love the idea of a cupcake flower, definately on my try someday list.
All great ideas! Now one of each need to muster up some courage and start posting pictures of our monster roses!
Okay had some extra batter so I made up some cupcakes. After my cakes are done I'll try a rose. Problem is my usb cord has gone MIA, that's why there are no photos in for me yet. But I'll get my sister to take one (if I succeed) and have her send it to me. Probably won't be until Saturday evening. But I choose to accept the challenge. Actually I'm just way curious to see how hard it really is.
I have every bit of faith in you. If you don't mind, would you take step by step photos so when it works you can post it for all of us curious CC users?
Rambo,
If it is a regular cupcake, you'll have to sculpt it into a sort of sphere like that muffin pan. It comes to a point at the bottom and when you turn it over, it forms a good beginning base. I am looking for my photos for my roses. If I find one, I'll post it.
Good luck!!
Vicky
Well here's a first. Here's my excuse first. My DH took to long to get the camera and it started to fall. It took about 3 cups of icing. I used a cup as the base, which was hard to spin. A big cupcake would work better I think, but boy what a sugar rush.
p.s. I was totaly to the point of tears while I made this. My DH said 'WHAT ARE YOU DOING!', (which is what took him so long ) I told him I challenged my friends @CC to try this, and ended up getting a, I double dowg dare ya. So I had to.
I used to work at a bakery that sometimes would use that tip to make monster roses. One of the women there had her husband make a monster rose nail out of a metal jar lid with a nail driven through it. It looked exactly like a rose nail, only, well, monster sized.
It's actually not that bad. I can imagine how heavy it has to be. Couldn't walk away from a challenge....could you?!? I wonder what other challenges we can think up?
You can make these with a larger sharpened dowel stick and stiffer BC.I use the stick method on all roses. I happen to think the roses are prettier. I originally learned the Wilton way, but always thought they looked like cabbages. Been using the stick 35 years.
Well first attempt didn't go too well. Tried to sculpt a cupcake, too messy. So I got out a large marshmallow and squished it into a kiss shape and stuck a toothpick in the bottom, which would have worked really well except after I got started I realized I was working with Medium consistancy, all that was left. It ended up alot like stylishbite's only orange. But I'm making up another batch today for SIL's bridal shower cakes so I will save some stiff and try again.
Still can't find the USB cord, I'm afraid it got thrown into my DH's misc. cord box. But the rest of the family has theres so I will get it on here somehow. I so want this to work, they'd be so pretty.
No, most of it is cake; I used the large 4 muffin pan from Wilton that comes to a point. Thanks
There are actually some Wilton instructions for doing something similar to what vicky did and using the 127D tip. Hope this link works.
http://www.wilton.com/recipes/recipesandprojects/yearbook/solitaryrose.cfm?section=yearbook&subsection=yearbook2004&tertiary=adddesserts
No, most of it is cake; I used the large 4 muffin pan from Wilton that comes to a point. Thanks
Is it the mini Wondermold pan?
What did you use to spin it as you were doing the petals?
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