I Am So Frustrated!!!!!! (Fondant)

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misterc Posted 11 Apr 2007 , 4:30pm
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I can not get my european fondant to work! I used the recipie from CC yesterday and let it sit wrapped up over night. Now when I roll it out and try to gently pick it up it just rips! I was able to get it on the cake once but the minute I put it on it started ripping along the top ege of the cake!
What am I doing wrong? What can I do to fix it?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!!!

I'm use to working with wilton but it tastes so bad that I thought I should try making my own instead! I really don't want to go back to Wilton! I am so frustrated!

Sorry, I am done venting now! icon_redface.gif

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Wiltonlady Posted 11 Apr 2007 , 4:39pm
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You vent all you want, you're allowed. But I have no answer for you.

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Jenn123 Posted 11 Apr 2007 , 4:42pm
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I've never worked with this before. I use Satinice and love it. Maybe you need to work some more sugar in to it?

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projectqueen Posted 11 Apr 2007 , 4:44pm
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I'm sorry, I can't help you with that recipe, I never tried it.

Have you ever tried making the MMF (marshmallow fondant)? I have used that and it's easy to make and use.

Otherwise, if you can order it, I have heard very good things about Satin Ice brand fondant that comes premade.

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lpino Posted 11 Apr 2007 , 4:46pm
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I haven't worked with european fondant before but when I work with fondant, I always rub my hands, the rolling pin and the surface wth some shortening and that prevents the fondant to stick and get too dry. I've never had a problem with it ripping... good luck!

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angelas2babies Posted 11 Apr 2007 , 4:47pm
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I can't help much, either, other than to offer a vote for the MMF if you want to make your own, or Satin Ice if you prefer to buy a ready-made fondant. Both taste great and are easy to work with.

Good luck to you!
Angie

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jenbenjr Posted 11 Apr 2007 , 4:49pm
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crisco! It sounds like you need to use more? I have not used this fondant but I think this may help you.

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melissablack Posted 11 Apr 2007 , 4:52pm
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I have never used this recipe either, I always make the MMF and I prefer to use it immediately, I found this works much better for me than when I used to let it sit overnight first. Good luck, sorry I can't help more.

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Cynita Posted 11 Apr 2007 , 4:54pm
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I agree, the fondant from wilton taste terrible. Have you tried the fondant from the company Decopac. It handles well and has a better taste.

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MissRobin Posted 11 Apr 2007 , 6:04pm
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I totally feel your pain. I just made Toba Garrett's fondant recipe, it is very similar to European Fondant, and have had no success. I have tried repeatedly to cover a 6" dummy and all it does is rip. I rolled it thicker thinking that my be the problem and it ripped completely off starting at the top edge. Not sure I will try again with that recipe. It tastes great though.

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misterc Posted 11 Apr 2007 , 6:22pm
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Thanks for all your suggestions!!! Unfortunatly I tried all of them before I posted the question. The recipie has a 5 star rating so there has got to be someone on this site that likes to use it, right? My client doesn't like the MMF so I can't use that and I hate the wilton flavor. I guess I might have to buy the SatinIce. It is so pricey. I had high hopes for the european fondant, oh well!

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rlsaxe Posted 11 Apr 2007 , 7:24pm
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this is why I only use Satin Ice.

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misterc Posted 12 Apr 2007 , 2:31pm
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I am really hoping someone can give me some pointers!

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MissRobin Posted 12 Apr 2007 , 3:30pm
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If you haven't tried MMF, I think you should, just to get a feel for fondant. As I said earlier, I think the European and Toba's fondant (both very similar) are very fragile fondants. MMF seems to be more durable. I just made a batch this morning and I can really feel the difference from Toba's. MMF is relatively cheap to make and the taste is good IMO. You can use different flavorings until you get the flavor you like. Hope this helps,.

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Renaejrk Posted 12 Apr 2007 , 3:33pm
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Okay - I have never tried MMF, but I have my own recipe that I use (gotten from another cake decorator) and would be glad to give it to you if you're interested! PM me and let me know! I have thought about putting it on the site, but it seems there are so many fondant recipes I figured it seemed silly.

I got my recipe from a very nice lady in my area whom I called when I was even more of a novice than I am now!! I had questions about using fondant (had only recently heard of it at that time) and many things of that nature - she was so unbelievably helpful!!

She told me she didn't do paid cakes much anymore, she just did competition and such - and I actually saw her on the FOOD network on the competition held in Tulsa, Oklahoma! I think she placed in it - it was a couple of years ago I think -and I can't even remember her name now!! How terrible of me!! I will find out her name if I decide to post the recipe, so she gets credit for it!

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tiptop57 Posted 12 Apr 2007 , 3:35pm
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Sorry I can not help you, my fondant of choice is Satin Ice.......

With Satin Ice, I have never, never had a problem.

So I believe for less stress, worry free and no headache I will pay the price.

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wings Posted 12 Apr 2007 , 6:26pm
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I work with the European fondant and I spray it down with vegetable spray to keep it pliable and then cover it with saran wrap while I roll it out. I keep the wrap over it until I finish smoothing it over the cake. It really works well. I read that idea from "The Cake Bible."

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Eme Posted 12 Apr 2007 , 6:39pm
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I've used Toba Garretts fondant recipe and found it to be delicate but has a wonderful flavor, so.....I mixed it about half and half with the MMF and it worked great!! You cannot taste the MMF, really keeps the flavor of Toba's fondant and yet it is sooooo much easier to work with!! thumbs_up.gifthumbs_up.gif Just a suggestion... icon_smile.gif

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fooby Posted 12 Apr 2007 , 6:45pm
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Well I've never worked with European fondant but I had the same problem with MMF. I don't know if this well help you but I experimented with my MMF that kept on tearing. I made a 50/50 MMF and Wilton fondant and added some Lorann oil flavoring to it. It came out pretty good. I got the taste of MMF and the Lorann oil with the texture of Wilton. HTH!

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misterc Posted 12 Apr 2007 , 7:50pm
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Originally Posted by MissRobin

If you haven't tried MMF, I think you should, just to get a feel for fondant. As I said earlier, I think the European and Toba's fondant (both very similar) are very fragile fondants. MMF seems to be more durable. I just made a batch this morning and I can really feel the difference from Toba's. MMF is relatively cheap to make and the taste is good IMO. You can use different flavorings until you get the flavor you like. Hope this helps,.




Thanks for the suggestion. I have made MMF but my bride doesn't like it so I can't use it. I have worked with it before and it was ok but I need something different for this client. Thanks again.

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Renaejrk Posted 12 Apr 2007 , 7:55pm
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The offer still stands for the recipe I have - I actually found out the name of the woman I got it from - she's a fellow CC'er and Oklahoma State Sugar Art Show award winner - Michele Foster!

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misterc Posted 12 Apr 2007 , 8:30pm
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The offer still stands for the recipe I have - I actually found out the name of the woman I got it from - she's a fellow CC'er and Oklahoma State Sugar Art Show award winner - Michele Foster!




I would love the recipie!!! I thought I had sent a pm to you. I will try again. Thanks!

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sunflowerfreak Posted 12 Apr 2007 , 9:08pm
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Someone posted a recipe for Jello fondant last week. I want to give that a try sometime. Maybe you should try that recipe. I believe it is in the recipe section now. Either that or do a 'search' for Jello fondant. I use the MMF and love it. Good Luck

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Gefion Posted 12 Apr 2007 , 9:13pm
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I have found that problems with tearing european fondant is because of the fondant being too soft. There's either too little CMC (tylose) or too little powdered sugar in it - usually the latter. It needs to mature for 24 hours in the fridge and when you take it out it is very hard and crumbles when broken apart. Must be kneaded quite a bit to be pliable, but it is a great fondant once you get to know it - and cheap.

Mine is made out of eggwhite, corn syrup (glucose), powdered sugar, tylose and flavoring.

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misterc Posted 12 Apr 2007 , 9:19pm
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I have found that problems with tearing european fondant is because of the fondant being too soft. There's either too little CMC (tylose) or too little powdered sugar in it - usually the latter. It needs to mature for 24 hours in the fridge and when you take it out it is very hard and crumbles when broken apart. Must be kneaded quite a bit to be pliable, but it is a great fondant once you get to know it - and cheap.

Mine is made out of eggwhite, corn syrup (), powdered sugar, tylose and flavoring.




I didn't know it had to go in the fridge. The recipie I used didn't mention tylose. What is it? Thanks!

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khoudek Posted 12 Apr 2007 , 9:29pm
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If you still have problems with your fondant and want to buy the Satin Ice the following website has it at a very inexpensive cost with reasonable shipping costs too: http://www.intotheoven.com/rolled-fondant-c-2_145.html

20 lb for $49.00 which works out to be about $2.50 per lb. I paid only $5.00 shipping to Germantown TN for mine.

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spoiledbyneil Posted 12 Apr 2007 , 9:29pm
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The first fondant i ever made was a mm fondant and i had no problems and it taste great!

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mjs4492 Posted 12 Apr 2007 , 9:37pm
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misterc:
while your searching around looking at SatinIce fondant, check on the Pettinice fondant too. I've not used MMF so I can't give any suggestions for you on that.
As mentioned earlier, tearing is usually a sign of not enough oil while kneading or powdered sugar when making your own.

(P.S.: thank you for your nice comments on my Riding Hat Cake last night)

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misterc Posted 13 Apr 2007 , 1:33am
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misterc:
while your searching around looking at SatinIce fondant, check on the Pettinice fondant too. I've not used MMF so I can't give any suggestions for you on that.
As mentioned earlier, tearing is usually a sign of not enough oil while kneading or powdered sugar when making your own.

(P.S.: thank you for your nice comments on my Riding Hat Cake last night)




I'll check for Pettinice and you certainly deserved the nice comments! That hat was awsome!

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mjs4492 Posted 13 Apr 2007 , 1:43am
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