Best "glue" For Gumpaste Bow Loops?

Decorating By sugarMomma Updated 24 May 2008 , 9:46pm by MacsMom

sugarMomma Posted 30 Apr 2008 , 3:22am
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I usually use candy melts for speed, but is more noticeable than I like. I was thinking royal icing may be less messy.? But it takes so long to dry.

I have til Friday to get my loops together into a bow, and it's too late to use wire and can't stick the ends into the cake (it's fondant) so I want to know what the best, least messy way to glue my loops together so that minimal "glue" is showing.

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JoAnnB Posted 30 Apr 2008 , 6:19am
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royal works. You can also use some gumpaste mixed with a tiny bit of water. stir it will something like a palette knife, smashin and mixing until it is barely wet enough to brush on.

dragonflydreams Posted 30 Apr 2008 , 7:36am
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. . . this is aine2's edible (invisible) glue . . .


sugarMomma Posted 30 Apr 2008 , 3:13pm
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How long does the tylose glue take to dry?

kakeladi Posted 30 Apr 2008 , 4:30pm
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I'm not sure gumglue is going to work well enough. It will take a long time to dry so you will have to hold the piece in place all that time.

sugarMomma Posted 30 Apr 2008 , 6:40pm
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Thanks for the warning

CakeDiva73 Posted 30 Apr 2008 , 6:50pm
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I just used regular icing but it was resting on the cake so it may not work. I have heard good things about the Tylose 'glue' and I think it dries pretty fast too. Good luck icon_smile.gif

RRGibson Posted 30 Apr 2008 , 6:56pm
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Royal icing is what has worked best for me!

Misdawn Posted 30 Apr 2008 , 6:58pm
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RI works for me too. It dries in 24 hours (as long as you don't use a HUGE glob of it.)

poshcakedesigns Posted 30 Apr 2008 , 7:04pm
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Royal icing for me too icon_lol.gif

RRGibson Posted 30 Apr 2008 , 7:13pm
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Royal icing is what has worked best for me!

Arty Posted 30 Apr 2008 , 7:19pm
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Thylose powder mixed with hot water, best to leave for a few hours or overnight until dry - This is probably the same technique as Aine2. Once made it will give an instant invisible glue which dries very quickly, without a mess & clear, which means you can use it on any colour icing. This is what I use to do all my sugar modelling work.

Sweettooth1120 Posted 30 Apr 2008 , 7:21pm
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I am quite a novice but I just did my first one this past weekend and I used little flat circles of gumpaste. I laid down a layer of loops, rolled out a small circle of gumpaste, dabbed it with water, laid the edges of the next layer of loops on it, repeated and then made a small ball of gumpaste that i dabbed with water for the one loop that sits in the center. I dont think it was noticeable and the bow traveled, in tact, 4.5 hours in a car trip and it never broke or fell apart.

leah_s Posted 30 Apr 2008 , 7:27pm
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I wire each loop and then stick it in the cake. Works great, and I think it looks more reaistic.

CakesByLJ Posted 30 Apr 2008 , 7:37pm
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I use the white chocolate... it only takes a small amount and you don't have to wait a long time for it to set up... You can't see the chocolate when you are done.. I have several I've done in my photos....

Bonnie151 Posted 30 Apr 2008 , 7:41pm
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I always use royal icing.

torysgirl87 Posted 30 Apr 2008 , 8:01pm
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I use candy melts. I can color them the same as the bow loops and stick in the refrigerator to quicken the drying time. I use the tutorial here that builds the bow in a bowl and this keeps it together nicely while its drying. Sometimes, I even dry each row by placing the bow in the bowl in the fridge until the candy melts dry. Never takes long.

cakeflake Posted 30 Apr 2008 , 8:18pm
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Sorry to go off topic somewhat here but I have a quick question-does anyone know if aine2's tylose glue is strong enough to hold fondant flowers or bows on the sides of a cake? and if you use it for bows how long before it dries? Thanks!

MacsMom Posted 30 Apr 2008 , 9:44pm
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Originally Posted by cakeflake

Sorry to go off topic somewhat here but I have a quick question-does anyone know if aine2's tylose glue is strong enough to hold fondant flowers or bows on the sides of a cake? and if you use it for bows how long before it dries? Thanks!




I wanna know, too... that's what I thought this topic meant.

I have been mixing meringe powder and PS with a bit of water for glue and seems to work fine for the side of cake, but I always use 2 toothpicks into the cake (and into the back of the knot) for good measure.

dragonflydreams Posted 21 May 2008 , 6:21pm
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. . . here is aine2's answer to the last two posts . . .

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Originally Posted by aine2

Oh goodness, yes, the glue will hold bows or flowers on the side of cakes. The key is to just brush a little onto the fondant and let it start to dry a bit so that it is just tacky to touch and not too wet, otherwise the things you are trying to stick will just slide off! If you are sticking little roses immediately after they are made then they will stick very well. If they are completely dry then I would use a little spot of royal icing instead.

I hope that helps you! Cheers! thumbs_up.gif


giggysmack Posted 21 May 2008 , 6:33pm
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leahs
Do you have any instructions on how to wire bow loops?
Thank you

wgoat5 Posted 21 May 2008 , 6:44pm
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I wondered about the wire to till I tried chocolate (thanks Laura icon_smile.gif ) ... I worry about all those wires ripping the cake up .. and or someone saying something about wire being in their cake..

tnt320to Posted 21 May 2008 , 6:48pm
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Hi! I think royal icing works great, but it's not something I always have on hand. Wilton makes a white cookie icing available in a squeeze bottle (looks kind of like Elmer glue!) at Michaels/AC Moore, I think even WalMart carries it. I have found that makes for a quick glue. I usually squeeze a little into a bowl and color it to match the bow then dip the ends of the bow loops in and attach to the base circle. I like that there's nothing else to make and it's always ready to go! Hope this helps!

cakenewbiekgm Posted 21 May 2008 , 6:50pm
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I always use vanilla to "glue" fondant pieces together. It will leave a shiney spot if it isn't covered but I just use a little dab and it is all covered. I do have to hold it in place for a bit but not too long and then I can prop it while it dries the rest of the way.

wgoat5 Posted 21 May 2008 , 6:57pm
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I dont think vanilla will hold up a whole bow will it? I think she is talking about gluing the bow all together.. or am I wrong?

FromScratch Posted 21 May 2008 , 7:19pm
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To wire a bow loop it's easy. When you are forming your loops just put a piece of small gauge wrapped floral wire in between the two sides and smoosh it together.. let it dry and voila!! I wired loop. You can make the wires long and then twist them all together and then snip it off so you can rest it ontop of the cake too without sticking the wires in, but I have never had a problem with the wire ripping a cake. Especially if you use fine wire.. 24 - 28ga would be great.. I use 28ga.

If they are already dry.. then I'd use royal or candy melts..

wgoat5 Posted 21 May 2008 , 7:21pm
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Smarty farty LOL

FromScratch Posted 21 May 2008 , 7:25pm
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You know me! icon_wink.gif You oreo filling lovin' fool!! icon_lol.gif

wgoat5 Posted 21 May 2008 , 7:27pm
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Id roll in the white stuff and dress up like one for halloweeny if I could icon_wink.gificon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gif

TexasSugar Posted 21 May 2008 , 7:30pm
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Personally I like candy melts myself. They set up faster than royal.

What about taking a ball of fondant/gumpaste and putting the bow ends in the ball of fondant with a little glue?

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