UH OH !! I didn't do a good job of wiring this rose cone. I got three sets of petals on, hung it upside down to dry.........
started rolling out and cutting the last row of big petals and boom - the silly bugger dropped like a sack of potatoes.
so I put it in a Styrofoam former, like I do with my modeling chocolate roses. glued the last row of large petals on and put it back in the former.
Tried to prop up the petals with foam. Well it certainly makes me gain respect for all of the grand wired roses of the professionals! ! ! ! !
I'm going to give a full two days for this to dry, then I'll post the photo. That a wild ride. 
Yahoo.
AShe is one of the nicest people in cakedom, jd is
I agree! I've made several orders with Jennifer Dontz, through her website Sugar Delites. She is really sweet and helpful. Her tiered cakes and flower bouquets are superb. She's a real inspiration to me.
I'm looking forward to using Kara Buntins @costumeczar gumpaste. I used up the last bit of my homemade gumpaste for todays rose experiment and that's probably part of the reason for the crash.
I'm positive that it will be like night and day using Kara's. So many fun things ahead to do. 
AThat was very cool of Kara to send you the gp -- her etsy store is impressive --
AIt does happen from time to time, the cones dropping off their wires. Don't stress! Did you put a good-sized hook on the wire in the cone? And did you wet the wire before you stuck it in the paste? Also try firming the cone of paste at the base of the cone to try to "grip" the wire better. But sometimes the cones just don't want to hold!
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That was very cool of Kara to send you the gp -- her etsy store is impressive --
I've already ordered another pound of gumpaste from Kara's shop, along with more colors of petal dust. I love her goodies.
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It does happen from time to time, the cones dropping off their wires. Don't stress! Did you put a good-sized hook on the wire in the cone? And did you wet the wire before you stuck it in the paste? Also try firming the cone of paste at the base of the cone to try to "grip" the wire better. But sometimes the cones just don't want to hold!
Opsie, no I didn't put a hook in it. Wet it though, remembered that part. I'm going to put a hook in it next time big enough to catch a marlin. Hope springs eternal, no worries then.
UH OH !! I didn't do a good job of wiring this rose cone. I got three sets of petals on, hung it upside down to dry.........
started rolling out and cutting the last row of big petals and boom - the silly bugger dropped like a sack of potatoes.
so I put it in a Styrofoam former, like I do with my modeling chocolate roses. glued the last row of large petals on and put it back in the former.
Tried to prop up the petals with foam. Well it certainly makes me gain respect for all of the grand wired roses of the professionals! ! ! ! !
I'm going to give a full two days for this to dry, then I'll post the photo. That a wild ride. Yahoo.
MB , I burn the wires in to my rose cones, those suckers aint going nowhere. I make my cone, then heat up my wire in a candle flame until it is red hot then pop it into the cone, The sugar melts around the wire and it is secure. Oh and the upside it smell like fairy floss. ( That is cotton Candy to the non Australians) I do hook the wire too as WInniemog told you.
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That is really something I would not have thought of. Cool. I mean HOT.
It was really nice when I was trying to put those big petals on upside down in my hand. I could see exactly how they lay on so perfectly, just like her video. (so close and yet still out of my reach)
AGlad I could help. I also use the same method for orchid centres as well. I make a whole heap when I sit and watch Tv at night. One more tip look away from the flame for a second before you insert the wire in the cone.
and this is a very cool product to be able to get in a small amount from acaketoremember-- i mean maybe other places offer it now idk -- i haven't gone looking for it but it used to be that you had to buy a substantial amount so this is very cool to know --
https://www.etsy.com/listing/198410777/mold-putty-for-making-silicone-molds-for?ref=related-1
and i love jen's damask cutters but i've never popped for them... i'd just wind up piping it or i cut one out free hand once
but they are lovely/tantalizing
and this is a very cool product to be able to get in a small amount from acaketoremember-- i mean maybe other places offer it now idk -- i haven't gone looking for it but it used to be that you had to buy a substantial amount so this is very cool to know --
https://www.etsy.com/listing/198410777/mold-putty-for-making-silicone-molds-for?ref=related-1
I'm with you. Here's what I made for my cakes with that stuff from her website.
I used a fridge magnet that I'd had for years and loved, and Voila........
The fondant is on the left side. One unpainted white fondant molded piece on the top left & the lower fondant that I hand painted to look like a bald eagle. The fridge magnet is on the top left.
shoulda said, you're the bombshagum-pastebomb 
I'm a rookie at a big league batting practice, just swinging at every pitch that comes my way. Interested and motivated enough to get myself to the ballpark to listen, learn and practice. (can you tell that I love baseball?)
It's great to get encouragement though, Thank You.
The one tutorial I would recommend for roses is the series on YouTube by Edna De La Cruz.
Its something like 4 parts long, and she gets crazy detailed with the hows and whys of what she is showing you. Plus she shows you how to do a rose without petal cutters, just circles.
This rose was I believe something like my 4th ever rose.
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Edit: So I totally just fashioned my reply to the posts from the first page of this thread. Didn't notice how old it was, and how long this thread was until I already submitted my post haha. Its been a long day...
@TheNerdyBaker It's a beautiful flower! I'm glad that you posted that photo, as I was thinking about what a rose would look like with gold painted on the edges. I did that with my gumpaste butterflies and liked it.
Every bit of the posting on these pages has been of interest and helpful to me and probably to lots of others. It's a work in progress.
Hi, well you should be chuffed, they are very well done. If I might I would try paler green and then dust them with a mix of greens, eg. moss green, ginko, and then brush a little burgundy onto the edges, another little tip when you are doing leaves is take a 20 gauge wire and put the tip of wire over naked flame until red, then carefully prod a hole in the rose leaf, this gives the impression of black spot, whic naturally occurs on rose leaves, I would also steam my rose leafs over a kettle, I feel it gives a more natural looking leaf shine, I use goosberry which is quite pale when colouring my paste however I dust them with darker dusts, your rose is really gorgeous too, love that colour
Good luck :}
Hi, may I also add, when you are wiring your leaves, put your fore finger and thumb at the behind the base of leaf and give it a little squeeze, when thats done move the top point of leaf backwards slightly, you can also pinch it a little, these tricks give your leaves movement and they dont all look the same, :)
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Oh my, MB What a great a giant leap in progress you've made!!!!!! Beautiful job. So glad to hear you prefer the thinner petals. Love watching your progress
Jeanne
Thank You, if I never progressed a step further I'd be contented. Looking at your webpage, the black fondant photo next to the beautiful poppy made an interesting color combo. Looking forward to seeing what you're going to do with your blank 'canvas'...........
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Hi, may I also add, when you are wiring your leaves, put your fore finger and thumb at the behind the base of leaf and give it a little squeeze, when thats done move the top point of leaf backwards slightly, you can also pinch it a little, these tricks give your leaves movement and they dont all look the same, :)
Yeah they do look pretty cookie cutter-ish. Thanks for the tip. Your flowers and sprays on your cake gallery cakes are pretty spectacular.
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Thank You, if I never progressed a step further I'd be contented. Looking at your webpage, the black fondant photo next to the beautiful poppy made an interesting color combo. Looking forward to seeing what you're going to do with your blank 'canvas'...........
Well, the poppies need a home, don't you think? 
well dang if I don't learn something new every day. I looked up youtube vids for making frangipani flowers and a couple of the ladies were putting their flowers in beds of flour to dry. Just like the commercial candy companies make gummy bears and jelly beans in corn starch molds. fascinating!
I learned to make them and sit them in cornflour, MB, but I find it an almighty pain getting all the cornflour off so I dried them in a flower former this time around. Much easier. You do not have to wire the petals separately but ram a wire through the fleshy part at the bottom. I think mine are slightly too curly but there are lots of different types and they will look great anyway.
Winniemog I actually din't mind making them. Once I had made the first few and got my fingers used to the holding and twisting they were quite relaxing. I don't have a great back so I didn't make them all at once. I'd make 6-8 and then come back a while later and make some more.
I need to start on the wired ones now.
First flower I ever learnt to make was a frangipani. I grow them in my backyard they are quite a staple in the gardens around here. They come in such wonderful colours but I really like the plain yellow ones the best. We just that blush of pink on the back.
I learnt to make them without wires. It is also the first flower I teach, the next is the rose.
MB, I was thinking about the large roses you were having trouble with and I sometimes wire in the last row of petals . It is a little more stable and takes some of the weight away from the rose. You can also manipulate them a lot more to get a more realistic look.
There are tons of roses on my face book page if you want to peek.
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First flower I ever learnt to make was a frangipani. I grow them in my backyard they are quite a staple in the gardens around here. They come in such wonderful colours but I really like the plain yellow ones the best. We just that blush of pink on the back.
I learnt to make them without wires. It is also the first flower I teach, the next is the rose.
MB, I was thinking about the large roses you were having trouble with and I sometimes wire in the last row of petals . It is a little more stable and takes some of the weight away from the rose. You can also manipulate them a lot more to get a more realistic look.
There are tons of roses on my face book page if you want to peek.
That's interesting, and I can see how that would be done in a big way.
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