Where were you when I was learning English? I still have a hard time with this, I wasn't formally taught and have picked up so many bad habits.
I fully realize that my sister and I are very fortunate to have grown up in the family we did. My mom taught English (and later French), my uncle was a math teacher, his wife was an elementary school teacher, and another aunt was a librarian. I remember my aunt (librarian) telling me about a time that she was at our house and was trying to find something in a book. My sister who was about 4 or 5, not yet reading, said "Why don't you use the index?"
Oh my goodness! I am all for "words" like "WTF?" when I see someone writing like that, but my ex-husband is even worse. He thinks the actual word is probly. A1 reason I divorced him... Okay, not really, but it contributed ;-) When we named our twins, I wanted Brian and Keith, but he kept saying our new baby's name was Keiff, so I quickly changed it to Kyle. (WHAT was I thinking when I married him??)
You make me laugh Anna.
By the way...my husband's name is Brian and his brother's name is Keith! LOL
I, too, cannot stand to see so many grammer and spelling mistakes, but I've been chided for pointing these things out to family and friends so I desperately try to restrain myself.
language is a living thing--it might not still be a factor--i'll check with her though
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shanter knows too i'm sure
Yes, language is a living or evolving thing. When my niece was getting her degree in linguistics, she explained to me that there is no standard spoken English but there is standard written English. Of course, the spoken English can get you into trouble or be unintelligible, depending on your context, and spoken English will lead to changes in "acceptable" written English.
when i took typing in hs on non-electric typewriters ;)
we were taught to space once between words -- and space twice between sentences
boy did my daughter set me straight on that one
no, mom... rahr ;)
It took me a long time to cease double spacing between sentences when I first started using a computer. So true, old dogs and new tricks.
Jan
It took me a long time to cease double spacing between sentences when I first started using a computer. So true, old dogs and new tricks.
Jan
yay!!! space space high five!!!!
my daughter could have set you straight quick ;) space space maybe quickly--ok fast anyhow
Laughing! I see the dash, the double spaces, but you forgot the ellipses. 'Tis funny how we can find a way around saying the wrong thing... quick, quickly, = FAST ! But that does bring up another peeve: misuse of adverbs. Boy, I'd better quit. I think a lot of English teachers are regularly rolling in their graves.
Jan
Laughing! I see the dash, the double spaces, but you forgot the ellipses. 'Tis funny how we can find a way around saying the wrong thing... quick, quickly, = FAST ! But that does bring up another peeve: misuse of adverbs. Boy, I'd better quit. I think a lot of English teachers are regularly rolling in their graves.
Jan
NO!!! <---- (misuse of exclamation points!) Don't quit! This is THE BEST THREAD EVER!!! <-----( Misuse of capitals and exclamation points )
I used to double space, and I am only 33, so it wasn't that long ago we were taught that...and I LOVE ellipses! To me, they often indicate I was thinking some more since I last typed, lol.
when i took typing in hs on non-electric typewriters ;)
we were taught to space once between words -- and space twice between sentences
Me too. That's because typewriters had only one fixed-width font and the two spaces between sentences made text easier to read. With computers, we have numerous variable-width fonts so we don't need the extra space. The fonts are designed for easier reading, and in variable-width fonts, serifed fonts are easier to read than sans serif fonts.
OH NO! I've crept into typography. Somebody stop me now!
How could I ever quit?????!! This thread has me regularly rolling on the floor, or at least bent over my keyboard, in stitches. (Do I really need a comma there? I'm starting to doubt myself. I'm terrible when it comes to commas.) Throwing all the rules of punctuation aside, I insert commas whenever I need to take a breath. I sprinkle them like salt upon a plate of food. Or like inserting unneeded color in a finished painting. ‹--- Sentence fragment
Keep 'em coming.
Jan
Laughing! I see the dash, the double spaces, but you forgot the ellipses. 'Tis funny how we can find a way around saying the wrong thing... quick, quickly, = FAST ! But that does bring up another peeve: misuse of adverbs. Boy, I'd better quit. I think a lot of English teachers are regularly rolling in their graves.
Jan
no no no no nono i ever live to misuse adverbs and make up words (-ly)
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I used to double space, and I am only 33, so it wasn't that long ago we were taught that...and I LOVE ellipses! To me, they often indicate I was thinking some more since I last typed, lol.
My thoughts exactly(my dad taught me to double space between sentences)... only I'm 29.
Is this contagious? It seems to be growing! Yeah, typography...what's next?
Jan
My thoughts exactly(my dad taught me to double space between sentences)... only I'm 29.
manddi--those genetics of yours again--but this time shouldn't have listened to dear old dad
my daughter the mfa in writing as i stated shamed me out of my double spacing ways fastly, quick and permanentitiously too
now in light of all the dna strands here you gotta do that for your pops ;)
(insanity is hereditary--i got it from my kids)
tough love, manddi, you gotta do it !!! remember the walters!!!
manddi--those genetics of yours again--but this time shouldn't have listened to dear old dad
my daughter the mfa in writing as i stated shamed me out of my double spacing ways fastly, quick and permanentitiously too
now in light of all the dna strands here you gotta do that for your pops ;)
(insanity is hereditary--i got it from my kids)
tough love, manddi, you gotta do it !!! remember the walters!!!
What does she think of your lack of capitalization, proper punctuation, and starting a new paragraph with every "sentence"?
How could I ever quit?????!! This thread has me regularly rolling on the floor, or at least bent over my keyboard, in stitches. (Do I really need a comma there? I'm starting to doubt myself. I'm terrible when it comes to commas.) Throwing all the rules of punctuation aside, I insert commas whenever I need to take a breath. I sprinkle them like salt upon a plate of food. Or like inserting unneeded color in a finished painting. ‹--- Sentence fragment
Keep 'em coming.
Jan
I agree, about the commas. I read a "best of Craigslist" once, several years ago, where the guy was responding to "everyone." It was so good, I copied it into my notes. Here it is ;-)
1. GET OFF THE CAPS LOCK. I know you're excited. The Internet can be scary, in a thrilling sort of way. But all caps makes you look insane. It conjures up the image of one of those people with no concept of volume or personal space, the type of person who thinks that you and she are destined to be together after one date, the kind of person that gets jealous when someone looks your way in the grocery store. Nobody wants that person. Nobody.
2. use the shift key. I will grant that I know some very intelligent people who have an allergy to the uppercase side of the alphabet, but it demonstrates lack of concern for others. This especially applies if the only word you capitalize is "I". There's some psychology there.
3. Spell-check, for Christ's sake. You are on a computer, you can find a spell checker. You might have a great personality, but the inability to spell simple words like "you" or "know" casts a knuckledragging tone over your whole post. You might even be suspected of being fourteen.
4. Punctuation. Use it, and use it correctly. There are only three dots in an ellipsis, like so (...), and I fear that at the current rate of use we will be facing record shortages within a decade. The same goes for the humble exclamation point, who never expected that he'd be forced into so many orgies. On the other hand, the comma is ready and willing to help break up your monster blocks of text.
5. No textspeak. Lol all you want, but it's not making you look anything but hysterical.
Lolly, Lolly, Lolly get your adverbs here!
What does she think of your lack of capitalization, proper punctuation, and starting a new paragraph with every "sentence"?
she applauds my resourcefulness i'm sure--she thinks i communicate very well i'm sure--frankly i haven't asked
besides that was in highschool --she got another master's in social work and is not teaching english anymore
for what it's worth--some days --not all--my fingers touch each other whether i want them to or not--my hand/s fricken blow up like balloons
and i find new ways to make accomodation for my wrists, shoulders etc. that don't operate like they used to
those days i like to be on here the most to forgedabout it--mind over matters i can't change--rheumatoid arthritis etc.
it's flaring now--but it should calm down soon ;)
besides i try to make my posts as easy to understand as possible no not perfect though never perfect--clearly not trying to be perfectly
trying to be helpful-ly ;)
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manddi--those genetics of yours again--but this time shouldn't have listened to dear old dad
my daughter the mfa in writing as i stated shamed me out of my double spacing ways fastly, quick and permanentitiously too
now in light of all the dna strands here you gotta do that for your pops ;)
(insanity is hereditary--i got it from my kids)
tough love, manddi, you gotta do it !!! remember the walters!!!
Take it easy on my poor pops. :) It was 20 years ago. Rest assured, we both know better now!
Permanentitiosly...?
Take it easy on my poor pops.
It was 20 years ago. Rest assured, we both know better now!Permanentitiosly...?
good for you and pops -- yay!!!
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say it a few times it will grow on you!!!
maybe i spelled it wrong--pardon moi!
per man en ti tious ly -- yeah forgot the 'u' oopsie and the accent is on the 'ti' permanen TI shusly-- kinda rolls off the tongue
i specialize in helping to add words to the dictionary--some of them are realy good too
came up with quilligree the other day when a quilling person said you can only quill with paper
that cakes with what we used to call fondant quilling is fondant filligree so
quil i gree ;)
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say it a few times it will grow on you!!!
:D
she applauds my resourcefulness i'm sure--she thinks i communicate very well i'm sure--frankly i haven't asked
besides that was in highschool --she got another master's in social work and is not teaching english anymore
for what it's worth--some days --not all--my fingers touch each other whether i want them to or not--my hand/s fricken blow up like balloons
and i find new ways to make accomodation for my wrists, shoulders etc. that don't operate like they used to
those days i like to be on here the most to forgedabout it--mind over matters i can't change--rheumatoid arthritis etc.
it's flaring now--but it should calm down soon ;)
besides i try to make my posts as easy to understand as possible no not perfect though never perfect--clearly not trying to be perfectly
trying to be helpful-ly ;)
I know you used to use punctuation, but I don't know why/when you decided to stop. I noticed it after new CC updates, and I almost asked why you were doing it. Now that we can read by hovering over the most recent post without entering the actual thread, your new posting style is harder to read because it shows up as one long sentence -- the double spacing each sentence doesn't show. With no punctuation and no paragraph breaks, it's many random thoughts in a run-on sentence.
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