Can Someone Explain Duff's Stacking Method?

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lisap Posted 22 Jan 2007 , 2:56pm
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I noticed on this past week's Ace of Cakes show that Duff was attaching dowels to the bottom of his top tier. Then he flipped the top tier over and that pushed the dowels down into the tier below it. Can someone explain this method to me? Is he using some special kind of support system or just regular dowels and separator plates? This would only work with a fondant covered cake, right? Thanks so much. I rewound it and watched it three or four times but I couldn't figure out what he was doing.

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Monica_ Posted 22 Jan 2007 , 3:32pm
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omg I am so glad you asked! I was wondering the same thing, but as I was kind of distracted at the time I only saw bits and pieces of what was going on, so I figured I missed something.

But when I saw that girl scrambling with the door to get it open and the cake through, I knew it must be confidently secured. icon_razz.gif

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lapazlady Posted 22 Jan 2007 , 3:37pm
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Can't help, I didn't get to see the program, but would love to know the answer, too.

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kjackson Posted 22 Jan 2007 , 3:42pm
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The way that girl was bear-hugging that cake to get it through the door absolutely SCARED me!! icon_surprised.gificon_eek.gif I kept thinking she was gonna squoosh it. icon_lol.gif

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Alison01 Posted 22 Jan 2007 , 3:43pm
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I'd like to know too! I saw it but I really don't think it showed exactly what he did. It kinda showed bits and pieces of it!

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mendhigurl Posted 22 Jan 2007 , 3:44pm
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I believe that instead of wooden pillars he uses something similar to Wiltons hidden pillar...
http://www.wilton.com/store/site/product.cfm?id=3E3119F0-475A-BAC0-5772682F766C019C&fid=63EB9DA7-475A-BAC0-522158B536D3E04A

They are pre-attached to the seperator plate and then pushed into the cake. This isn't a method that's for only fondant cakes, because this was the only way we supported buttercream cakes at a bakery I worked at. It's not different from using dowels though, and I find it more annoying, because wood is a lot easier to cut then the plastic things. Just my opinion, hope that helps.

Ami

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toristreats Posted 22 Jan 2007 , 3:46pm
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Can't help you with the dowels. I must have missed that part. But, I did wonder why that girl didn't first get someone to hold the door open for her...especially since she was so worried about dropping the cake.

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bethola Posted 22 Jan 2007 , 3:46pm
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Why don't you e-mail and ask? I e-mailed him about a particular technique he did on the show and it didn't tell WHY he did it. I just contacted him via his website: charmcitycakes.com and a couple of days later got a reply.

Beth in KY

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lilmisscantbewrg Posted 22 Jan 2007 , 3:47pm
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I held my breath till she got through the door! I kept having visions of feet slipping out from under her -cake flying through the air and landing on her head. I could've saved myself the anxiety by ffwding because I had it recorded..but where's the fun in that!! icon_lol.gif
I'd like to know the answer to the doweling/support question too.

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mimimil Posted 22 Jan 2007 , 4:19pm
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OMG!! I was wondering the same thing! Glad I wasnt the only one w/questions. Yes when the girl was struggling w/the cake I was terrified for her... all I pictured was her slipping and the cake landing upside down!!

Mimi

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arosstx Posted 22 Jan 2007 , 6:08pm
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What about the episode last week (1st one of the new season, yay!icon_smile.gif ), that showed him w/ a bottom cake tier full of green straws? Then he had a problem with cracking, and said, "I cut one (or some) of the straws too short."

So straws? What kind? Hmmmmm...

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moydear77 Posted 22 Jan 2007 , 9:05pm
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What about the episode last week (1st one of the new season, yay!icon_smile.gif ), that showed him w/ a bottom cake tier full of green straws? Then he had a problem with cracking, and said, "I cut one (or some) of the straws too short."

So straws? What kind? Hmmmmm...




I would have to go back but I don't think they were straws. He used the hollow dowels a lot.

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arosstx Posted 22 Jan 2007 , 9:07pm
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I just remember him saying, "I cut ..... of the straws to short." I perked up when I heard the word 'straw'. Also I saw the one cake where they were green and hollow (like a straw). I haven't seen plastic cake dowels in any color other than white.

Hope that helps. I would love to know how he supports his cakes. They always look rock solid!

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viewbaker Posted 22 Jan 2007 , 9:13pm
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I used straws and dowels in my cake and there not just for fondant cakes....The straws are just plastic drinking straws put into the cake around the middle and cut to the same height of the cake....there to give the cake alittle more support...Ive seen the way he puts the dowels in and it just adds more support cause his cakes are really heavy....I just use a dowel down the middle of the cake.(buy them at home depot) Havent lost a cake yet and I deliver to 2 other business over 45 minutes away icon_smile.gif

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moydear77 Posted 22 Jan 2007 , 9:31pm
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Ok I watched it again and they are not reuglar drinking straws. They do look like straws for bubble tea--Wider.

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jillchap Posted 22 Jan 2007 , 9:34pm
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I always use the bubble tea straws in my stacked cakes... they're awesome! Cheap... durable... haven't had a problem with them yet!!

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bellejoey Posted 22 Jan 2007 , 9:43pm
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Yep, those are drinking straws. I saw this technique somewhere else, I can't remember where, but, I said out loud to that girl on the T.V., why didn't you prop open that door first!! I thought she was going to drop that cake for sure! LOL!

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strawberry0121 Posted 22 Jan 2007 , 9:52pm
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What are bubble tea straws?

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moydear77 Posted 22 Jan 2007 , 9:55pm
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What are bubble tea straws?




They are wider straws made for drinking Bubble tea. The tea that has tapioca balls at the bottom. I see them in Asian stores mostly.

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strawberry0121 Posted 22 Jan 2007 , 9:59pm
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I've never heard of the tea or the straws!

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arosstx Posted 22 Jan 2007 , 10:18pm
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I wondered if that's what they were! I had heard about them a long time ago, then forgot all about it. Anyone know where to get them on the cheap?

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nglez09 Posted 22 Jan 2007 , 10:18pm
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What are these bubble tea straws????

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arosstx Posted 22 Jan 2007 , 10:27pm
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Are these the right ones, and is this a good price?
Shipping is under $4, so it would be $5 something shipped to Texas.

http://www.bobateadirect.com/Bag-of-Fat-Bubble-Tea-Straws-pr-418.html

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Granpam Posted 22 Jan 2007 , 10:34pm
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They look like what I use. I won mine at an ICES DOS so I have no idea where they came from. I use them 90% of the time. Very easy to cut all to the same length. I just pencil mark them and cut with a scissor.

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moydear77 Posted 22 Jan 2007 , 10:34pm
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Yes like those ones. If you have a good china town by you they also carry them.

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Alison01 Posted 23 Jan 2007 , 12:05am
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I would like to try those straws. That's pretty cheap and you can get a case of 4500 for $40. That would last forever!!!!!

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sun33082 Posted 23 Jan 2007 , 12:17am
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I use drinking straws for stacking my cakes. Work like a charm. I doubted it when I heard about it, but the person who I saw use them said "have you ever stoodup a straw and put your hand on top and pushed down? It doesn't bend" and it's true.

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Monica_ Posted 23 Jan 2007 , 12:37am
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What I am curious about is the part where he actually drilled a dowel into the bottom of the cakeboard or something. Wish I had a recording to see again what was going on

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flourgrl Posted 23 Jan 2007 , 12:38am
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I too would like the know the plate/dowel system he uses, I was going to email.....

I use plastic drinking straws for all my cakes....most of the time the green ones from Starbucks, but I did use Bubble Tea straws in my 4 tier Mardi Gras cake - they were awesome, gotta get some more.

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cakesondemand Posted 23 Jan 2007 , 12:47am
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new one on me first time I'v heard of them.

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