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She knows that I have a commercial kitchen as she has sat in my cake studio with other brides. It's not at my home either...not that it matters. But, yeah...I kinda felt like "Really? You would ask a business this?" One "professional" asking another professional to compromise...didn't seem real professional at all...
...so then she shouldn't mind being paid in food stamps! 
At the grocery I worked at (I worked in deli/bakery) you could buy anything cold with food stamps. If it came from the hot bar or to go bar, you couldn't get it. So we had to keep cold fried chicken, cold rotisserie chickens and that sort of thing out for the EBT customers. This included cakes and party trays. We actually had people buy meat trays, fruit trays, even buffalo wing trays with food stamps. It made me livid every single time we had to cater a party that was paid for on food stamps.
At the grocery I worked at (I worked in deli/bakery) you could buy anything cold with food stamps. If it came from the hot bar or to go bar, you couldn't get it. So we had to keep cold fried chicken, cold rotisserie chickens and that sort of thing out for the EBT customers. This included cakes and party trays. We actually had people buy meat trays, fruit trays, even buffalo wing trays with food stamps. It made me livid every single time we had to cater a party that was paid for on food stamps.
After I first got married my SIL took me out to buy groceries for the week they were staying with us (we had very little money and they were up for a visit). I was so grateful but I didn't know she was on food stamps. She kept throwing steak and chips and ice cream and soda and fancy cereals and everything in the cart, and I kept insisting, "No, we don't need all that, lets not spend so much" and then in the checkout she pulled out her stamps. I could have died...
Un-freakin-acceptable. You know, it only takes a short handful of these stories to remind me why I hate the public so much. I love people, good people, but I hate *people*. You know what I mean.
The 'system' in this country gags me, because it is completely set up to reward the worthless lolly-gaggers. (Trust me, that's not the description I wanted to use there...)
And yes, @ss-clown is one of my favorites. Glad I could make you smile with that one. It just feels good to call someone that. Seriously, the next person to piss you off, call them that and let it roll off your tongue. It feels like extra smooth buttercream. Hehehehe. Yah, I have issues.
It's one thing you using your foodstamps to buy your child (who is partial recipient) of those foodstamps a bd cake. To use your family's foodstamps to finance a cake (bigass cake at that) for someone else and take those funds that are to be used to get sustainance for the household is EFFED UP! JMO
OMG! Then, try to convince someone else who doesn't want to be involved in the situation that it ain't immoral...I do believe that hit my 'stupid people' chord that makes me wanna smack somebody!
Lots of issues being brought up in this thread. I have been in need before myself...hubby was very ill and had been injured to boot, I had just bought a Ford Escort wagon and he was laid off shortly after that from his refinery job due to being injured. We couldn't get help (food stamps) because of the car! Even the food stamp lady said it was a shame because she knew people driving Caddy's were getting stamps and tons of other help.
We made it by being very frugal as we had always been...but yeah, it is a gagger to see people that for GENERATIONS that have never worked and yet have homes, cars, designer this and that, the coolest phone on the planet and yet DO nothing but suck off of those of us who actually work and pay taxes.
I have no problem helping the truly needy but I have a major problem helping the greedy and lazy. When the government thinks they can tell us how much money we should make - LOL kick them out! This is a FREE country - a capitalist country where hard work will get you somewhere . I work hard and am getting somewhere but I darn sure don't won't to give half of my money so some idiot can sit on their fanny doing nothing and collecting MY money. Ok...off my rant!
The 'system' in this country gags me, because it is completely set up to reward the worthless lolly-gaggers. (Trust me, that's not the description I wanted to use there...)
EXACTLY. 
I remember stories from my father (my grandparents came from Italy and went though Ellis Island in their teens, in the 1910's) about the rabbit who got out & ran away while he was at school. Only to figure out, thankfully much later in life, that rabbit stew had been on the menu for dinner that night, and grandma didn't have the heart to tell him they were eating his pet (the rabbits were raised for food, but my dad had kept getting attached to them, and they kept "running away"), I still feel bad for him. Now that's tough times.
I'm not even going to address the wedding cake, lol, I just can't.
So What if the 50 dollar set of nails was a gift from somebody? Or what if that Coach bag was a gift also. Come on, don't judge a book by it's cover people, this is pretty disgusting JMOP! Illegals do not get free healthcare, do the research.
So What if the 50 dollar set of nails was a gift from somebody? Or what if that Coach bag was a gift also. Come on, don't judge a book by it's cover people, this is pretty disgusting JMOP! Illegals do not get free healthcare, do the research.
Oh...so illegals can't walk into an ER and have a baby with medical attention?
My illustrations were personally seen...NOT hearsay or judging books by covers.
What I love is when you know a couple that live together under the same roof, both make about 13 bucks an hour, have children together, but won't get married because she will get knocked out of her food stamps and medical card for her kids. Obviously, the system doesn't know he lives under the same roof. When I can't qualify because I make to much money (less then they make) and my husband is laid off and can't find work. My kids don't have medical card. I guess I'm to honest for my own good. Sometimes though, I would love to call up the system and say "hey, why is it I can't, but so and so can when they have over twice coming into their household." But that would only hurt the kids. Still.
So What if the 50 dollar set of nails was a gift from somebody? Or what if that Coach bag was a gift also. Come on, don't judge a book by it's cover people, this is pretty disgusting JMOP! Illegals do not get free healthcare, do the research.
Who buys a person who can't afford food $50 nails or a coach bag!? That's as inappropriate as giving a poor child a candy bar when they have yet to have a meal.
I just have to put in my two cents worth. I agree it's a shame that something meant to help people has been so abused! I know hard ships too, and not alway knowing where my next meal was coming from{ and with a little one}Hubby lost job via layoff ect.You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that if you buy items yourself to make a platter it's a lot cheaper that way. Would'nt you try to stretch your money? Most would even without the need offood stamps. Well my point is --It was New year's eve- at a deli I was at. A woman came in picking up TWO PLATTERS she had ordered for her party and paid with food stamps!! Now that just is not right! Thanks for letting me vent. Clarissa
The system is a HUGE failure. I know someone who desperatly could use the extra help from time to time yet cant get it bc they make too much money. They r both very hard working but cant seem to catch a break in life. they have 2 small children and they DO NOT blow thier money. They save to eat out for special occasions only. However, I also know someone who gets about $600/month in food stamps, thier housing & electric bills paid for each month. They have the brand new top of the line cell phone, sell their food stamps for money to pay for the cell phone and still never can seem to make more than frozen dinners for thier kids. And then struggle at the end of the month to make meals. Nice isnt it. The system shld be helping those who really need it, unfornately our govt just doesnt care. sad i know. jmop[/url][/center]
So What if the 50 dollar set of nails was a gift from somebody? Or what if that Coach bag was a gift also. Come on, don't judge a book by it's cover people, this is pretty disgusting JMOP! Illegals do not get free healthcare, do the research.
Who buys a person who can't afford food $50 nails or a coach bag!? That's as inappropriate as giving a poor child a candy bar when they have yet to have a meal.
So you are saying that a person on assistance should not be able to recieve a set of nails for thier birthday or be given an old purse that someone isn't using if is is a Coach or designer bag?
I've seen it all--cakes, deli sandwiches--unknown amounts of junk food---but the one that made me literally gasp out loud was a bag of ice.
ICE!!
FLIPPIN' FREAKIN' FROZEN WATER!!!
I was so Pi$$ed I told the woman I knew an easy recipe I'd share so she could make her own... She looked at me incredulously---
Our entire system needs a giant FLUSH!!! If I ran it, it would be run exactly like WIC--only the most nutritional items at the lowest cost. PERIOD. I would be for the nourishment of the needy---NOT THE ENTERTAINMENT of the ENTITLED.
...steps off soap box --but keeps it handy
I have a friend that is everything possible that the state has to offer. It just really gets me that someone (such as herself) is on all this and doesn't want to even attempt to get a d**n job. I have know remorse for those types. She's capable of it, but complains so much. A few yrs. ago I was visiting her (when she lived in Colorado) and she bought her son's birthday cake with FS, and I was like I didn't know you could buy cake with those. It's crazy how all of that works. And it makes it hard for others to get benefits who really need them.
It sounds like all systems need an overhaul. Australian systems do too. It's easy to say you've applied for x amount of jobs a fortnight for your money. It's also easy to do 'cash' jobs that aren't on the books for extra cash too.
It's not a good life to live though. I couldn't imagine who in their right mind would WANT to live on handouts. It's pride depleting and downright depressing having to have money given to you from the government. It's not like it's a good amount of cash either.
I just wish our elderly were looked after better too.
mydiwa-LOVE seinfeld. in this case-NO CHEESECAKE FOR YOU! and I can't believe this planner even asked you to do this. how was she not embarrassed. wonder if SHE would like to get paid in food stamps? this is a subject I get irate about, so i'll just go to bed instead.
So What if the 50 dollar set of nails was a gift from somebody? Or what if that Coach bag was a gift also. Come on, don't judge a book by it's cover people, this is pretty disgusting JMOP! Illegals do not get free healthcare, do the research.
Who buys a person who can't afford food $50 nails or a coach bag!? That's as inappropriate as giving a poor child a candy bar when they have yet to have a meal.
So you are saying that a person on assistance should not be able to recieve a set of nails for thier birthday or be given an old purse that someone isn't using if is is a Coach or designer bag?
I'm just saying a person on assistance should get their priorities straight and sell the "now suddenly old, laying around" coach bag and the $50 nail gift certificate and pay the PG&E bill, or treat their kid to a trip to the dentist.
(haha did you see what I did there?, I just raised you one child, I figured you could make the Coach bag old/unused...I could make a child.) debating...smiling, not mad...just debating.
If you need to use food stamps to buy ingredients for a cake, you can't afford a wedding for 200 people.
That's what I noticed, too. 200 people, PLUS a wedding planner. Makes you wonder how much was spent on other aspects of the wedding. And if that's the case, the bride should be thoroughly embarrassed to be taking food stamps from her brother (or anybody for that matter) to pay for anything.
Reminds me of an episode I saw recently of "Say Yes to the Dress". This lady had driven up all the way from Maryland (I'd guess the DC area) with a whole bunch of family members to look at a dress she'd seen on the show (which is filmed at a rather high end bridal shop). Her budget was $5,000. The dress was $12,000. The salesperson took pity on her (why, I have no idea), and got the shop to apply every discount they could manage and brought the price of the dress down to $9,900...
At which point she turns to her assembled family and barks "Checkbooks out!". My jaw dropped. I would NEVER treat my family like that! I know every one of them has things their kids need and things they're saving up for, and I would never ask for $ from them for something so extravagant (especially something that you wear ONCE). When I got married, I rented my dress for $350, because I thought $800 to buy it was a ridiculously high amount, and I didn't even think of asking my parents to pay the higher cost of purchasing it. If my jaw hadn't already been located on the floor, it would've hit it when they showed the family members all ponying up and saying things like "We can give up something so she can have the dress she wants".
The icing on the cake (hehe)... lady and her fiance had been living together for a few years, and just figured it was about time they got married. She has 6 kids (from various fathers), and had been a single mother for quite some time. Because of all those clues, I would not be surprised if they were on welfare and/or food stamps and in all their very nice clothing and well done hair and whatnot, and couldn't help but wonder if on top of all that they had "saved up" $5,000 for the dress (and who knows how much for all the rest of the wedding) off taxpayer money, while all of us tax payers have to watch our pennies and give up so many such luxuries because of all the $ going to taxes.
I love being behind someone in line using food stamps and then watch them climb into a Lexus!
THAT should not be happening. How can they "legally" do that ?
Yes, depending. I know someone who had a stroke and cannot work anymore. She now recieves social security and food stamps. She has a friend that is an authorized user (of her food stamps) that goes to the store and purchases food for her bc she is impaired. Her friend happens to drive a Mercedes. I guess if someone watched her buying food with stamps then get into her Mercedes they may be upset but it is legit. I know this is not the case with everyone but we never know.
So What if the 50 dollar set of nails was a gift from somebody? Or what if that Coach bag was a gift also. Come on, don't judge a book by it's cover people, this is pretty disgusting JMOP! Illegals do not get free healthcare, do the research.
I'm not judging anyone for food stamps, there have been times in my life that I probably would have qualified for them. But my family gave me gifts of supper at their house, and money for groceries instead of nails and $300 purses. Not saying it "can't" happen like you described it, but the sad fact is that there are a lot of people who don't really need the help.
[This reminds me of when my DH's sister got married earlier this year. They had to get their cake from a specific bakery b/c they were the only ones who would take something called "Trade Dollars". I had never even heard of anything like that, but it basically amounts to monopoly money or something. Of course, they had very limited choices as to what their cake could be, since they weren't using real money to pay for it. It's not food stamps though, I really don't know exactly what they are, but that was the weirdest thing I'd ever heard of!
This is probably a trade exchange. It is something that some business owners join so they can trade good/services with one another. It has nothing to do with welfare. The dry cleaners I used to work at was part of a trade exchange. We had a lot of customers that would pay for their drycleaning with the trade exchange credits. The trade exchange would keep track of each business's account. My boss could then use his trade exchange credits to buy from member businesses. Businesses could just trade directly with each other, say a baker could trade a cake for a haircut at the salon. But what if the baker is bald and doesn't need a haircut, but the salon owner wants a cake? That's where the trade exchange is useful.
As far as the other issue. The girls in my daughter's girl's group would do chores and earn money to buy rice and diapers. We would then have a gathering and re-pack those items. One cup of rice would go in a ziplock bag. 5 diapers would get packed in a brown lunch bag. We then delivered these to an inner city convent that had a food pantry. The sisters that ran it had to do it this way because they found that if they gave a whole bag of rice, or whole pack of diapers, the person asking for it would just take a few diapers or only some of the rice, then sell the rest of the package for drugs & alcohol. They wanted to make sure that people were being fed, but they were strict about how & when they gave out stuff, otherwise they would not have enough to actually feed the people.
I love being behind someone in line using food stamps and then watch them climb into a Lexus!
THAT should not be happening. How can they "legally" do that ? Yes, depending. I know someone who had a stroke and cannot work anymore. She now recieves social security and food stamps. She has a friend that is an authorized user (of her food stamps) that goes to the store and purchases food for her bc she is impaired. Her friend happens to drive a Mercedes. I guess if someone watched her buying food with stamps then get into her Mercedes they may be upset but it is legit. I know this is not the case with everyone but we never know.
We never know. That is exactly my point. Therefore I reserve judgement. I know that there is allot of abuse in the system but it goes both ways.
If the abuse was reeled in in the system, the system wouldn't be under such stress, and some states wouldn't be looking at bankruptcy!
As far as selling the designer bag and the nails for a dentist visit, well in ny if you are on medicaid you get the dentist too. Me i have to pay for it, guess thats why my nails look like shit, and i carry a walmart hand bag.
I have known people who really needed help and were told that unless they signed over their life insurance policies they wouldn't be able to help. Needless to say, they told the state where to go, and made due with help from family and friends.
I do know that i would never be able to work in the dss office, as i would likely be arrested. The people that work in my department that get help piss me off enough as it is.
So What if the 50 dollar set of nails was a gift from somebody? Or what if that Coach bag was a gift also. Come on, don't judge a book by it's cover people, this is pretty disgusting JMOP! Illegals do not get free healthcare, do the research.
Who buys a person who can't afford food $50 nails or a coach bag!? That's as inappropriate as giving a poor child a candy bar when they have yet to have a meal.
So you are saying that a person on assistance should not be able to recieve a set of nails for thier birthday or be given an old purse that someone isn't using if is is a Coach or designer bag?
I'm just saying a person on assistance should get their priorities straight and sell the "now suddenly old, laying around" coach bag and the $50 nail gift certificate and pay the PG&E bill, or treat their kid to a trip to the dentist.
(haha did you see what I did there?, I just raised you one child, I figured you could make the Coach bag old/unused...I could make a child.) debating...smiling, not mad...just debating.
Hey now...I've had times in my life where I have barely made rent before, but my mom treated me to a new set of acrylics, not of a gift card for them. 
She'd never buy me a Coach bag, though.
To the OP. The planner was out of line, and you may want to keep a closer eye on her in the future. You never know what she'll pull out of her bag of tricks next time.
As for the issue of welfare...it does bother me when someone "appears" to be doing better than I am in life (materialistically, at least) and they pay for their groceries with food stamps. But you know what? I say it'll come back around to those who really do abuse the system. I have faith that the universe will make it right. And that's what helps me sleep at night.
Receiving a gift of nails or a purse is fine...but dollars to donuts good ole welfare chick spends her money on her nails and purse because she is entitled to welfare money. She has her fancy little phone with internet on it. This is what gravels people...paying for those who abuse the system and a huge chunk of the people milk it for all it is worth.
I have a problem with girls/women having ba-bay after ba-bay and NEVER working and taking MY tax dollars and using the food stamps for someone's wedding cake/platters from the deli, send the kids in to cash on something small so she can get beer/wine/cigarettes.
I would never begrudged anyone a gift, especially those in need. I begrudge lazy people who never have worked and have no intention of working. I worked for Goodwill Industries for years. I was in administration and they have a wonderful saying "There is dignity in work". They need to find their dignity and get off their butt and go to work!
If I understand correctly, you work with this wedding planner quite a bit, correct?
If so, I would sever the relationship. It seems like this planner is not above bending ethics and legalities. I would not want to be associated with that person and heaven forbid I get embroiled in something that is going to endanger my business!
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