Single Plate Tie System

Decorating By Mnhreams Updated 8 Jul 2007 , 8:13pm by momacs

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Mnhreams Posted 3 Jul 2007 , 9:18pm
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has anyone used the SPS for tiered cakes? I found them on the Bakingshop.com website. They seem easier than using all of the dowel rods and plates. Please let me know.

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darcat Posted 4 Jul 2007 , 4:25am
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I have never used them but hopefully someone with some experience can help you out

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loriemoms Posted 4 Jul 2007 , 2:07pm
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Is use them all the time. They are easier, and stronger then wooden dowels. I even transport tiered (not more then 3 tiers so far) cakes after being assembled with SBS. If you have a licensed bakery, you can buy them directly from bakery craft for a lot cheaper!

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beccakelly Posted 4 Jul 2007 , 2:47pm
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leahs has mentioned a couple times before that she loves the sps and its all she uses. she says she would transport more than three tiers stacked if she could lift it. im getting a catalog from bakery crafts in the mail and i think i'll order some. every review i've heard of them has been good.

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leah_s Posted 4 Jul 2007 , 3:50pm
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Have SPS, use it, love it. Best thing to hit cake world, evah! Well SPS and the Agbay. Between the two my cakes are level, straight and stable. Try SPS--you will never go back to dowels.

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diane Posted 4 Jul 2007 , 5:06pm
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o.k...what is sps??? icon_confused.gif

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cakequeen50 Posted 4 Jul 2007 , 7:00pm
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Love, Love . Love the SPS, been using them for 10 years.
I have a friend who has a home decor business license and she gets them from bakery craft for me. I do use dowels now and then when I have a small tiered cake but they are a savior on the bigger cakes.

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Mnhreams Posted 4 Jul 2007 , 10:41pm
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I'm only doing this as a favor, so is there a place that is cheap to purchase them? The cake I am making is a 5 tier, 14,12,10,8,6. Thanks

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TanuvasaMama Posted 4 Jul 2007 , 10:47pm
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yeah, what is sbs and what is Agbay?

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Yorkiemum Posted 4 Jul 2007 , 11:02pm
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Bakery craft says you have to have a tax number to buy as part of their set up. Is there any place else to get the SBS if you don't have a tax number?

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Mnhreams Posted 4 Jul 2007 , 11:18pm
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They are like push in pillars but more stable. You use less plates and do not need dowel rods.

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cakequeen50 Posted 5 Jul 2007 , 1:12am
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You can't buy bakery craft any where that I know without a tax id. But if you go to this website, my friend who has a business in NC, swears by the ones that this guy sells. You don't have to have a tax id # and he is great about shipping promptly.

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loriemoms Posted 5 Jul 2007 , 1:27am
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You can buy SPS at Sugarcraft. You will pay a little more, but they are well worth it!

I also LOVE my agbay leveler! It was the best investment I have ever made!

Another thing is not only are the pillars more stable, but they lock into the plates. The plates also have alittle nail that goes into your cardboard circle. I always put a little royal icing between the cardboard circle and the plastic plate to be sure. I never dowel again. I think the caterers when they cut my cakes also are happier, as they are so much easier to take apart!

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katwomen1up Posted 5 Jul 2007 , 3:55am
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Where do you get the agbay leveler same place as the SPS?

Kat

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miriel Posted 5 Jul 2007 , 3:59am
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Agbay leveler from here: http://www.agbayproducts.com/

It's worth every penny!

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miriel Posted 5 Jul 2007 , 4:02am
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katwomen1up Posted 5 Jul 2007 , 4:13am
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Thanks Muriel, boy thats the cream of the crop. Pretty cool, I'll have to wait on that one until orders pick up. But I'll save the link. I was going to ask you if that was anything like the Wilton one, glad I didn't because it doesn't even come close!!

Kat

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Mnhreams Posted 5 Jul 2007 , 4:39pm
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I had to go ahead and buy from Wilton. My next question is if the bottom cake is 14", then what size plate do I use for the next cake up? Do I use a 14 or a 12? i ask because in the Wilton book it says to use a plate that is 2 inches bigger. With the SPS system I am unsure. My tier cake is 14,12,10,8,6 and I didn't know if I should get the same size plates as the cake or get two inches larger.

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loriemoms Posted 5 Jul 2007 , 9:22pm
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This is a little off the subject, but how do you guys cut your pillars? I have been having my husband cut them for me on his rotary saw, but Ihave been looking for an easier solution that I can do myself (I dont do big powertools!) I wish I could find something hand held, maybe battery operated.

btw, Wilton is no where NEAR the quality of these plates.

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TanuvasaMama Posted 5 Jul 2007 , 9:25pm
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Wow!!! That agbay is amazing!!!! When I first read your post I thought you were saying pig latin for bag!!!!

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Mnhreams Posted 5 Jul 2007 , 10:11pm
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I have never used any push-in pillars before, I've always used the two-plate and pillar system with lots of dowel rods and then later worried if the person cutting and serving the cake remembered to get all of the dowels out. I'm sorry I bought the ones from Wilton but will purchase the SPS next time. I hope my cake does't fall when I set it up with the Wilton push-in pillars. Also, does anyone know if the plate size is supposed to be the same as the cake size with SPS? Wilton requires 2 inches larger.

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beccakelly Posted 6 Jul 2007 , 12:07am
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my understanding of the SPS system is that you use plates the same size as the cake. ie, 10 inch cake goes on 10 inch plate, goes on 12 inch bottom tier. i haven't used it yet, but i look forward to.

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southerncake Posted 6 Jul 2007 , 12:51pm
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I am ordering these today, but I just wanted to make sure I have it all figured out in my head! You can use them for stacked cakes?? -- not just cakes with separations? Do you have to leave a small gap because of the width of the top of the pillars? Every wedding cake I have for the next two months is stacked, so I was going to go ahead and order enough for all of them. If it works, the cost is amazing compared to other systems - low enough to where I can just charge and equipment fee and not always have to get them back. I love that!

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loriemoms Posted 6 Jul 2007 , 1:09pm
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They come in both flavors..you can either get the longer pillars and do them as tiers or you can get the shorter pillars and use them as stacked. the plates have a fancy collar where the pillar goes in that you can remove (just pops off) for stacked cakes. I take the cardboard piece that I am going to place the cake on, push it on the plate so it gets the little hole in it for the nail. I just cut the pillars to fit the height of the cake, and them put them on the plate and push the whole thing in. I then take the cardboard plate (I cover mine with contact) that now has the cake itself on it, put a few drops of royal icing on the sbs plate and put the cardboard plate on top. You can then decorate the edging to cover the plate and the cardboard. if you look at my photos of all my stacked plates, they all are using SBS.

Hope I explained the right!

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southerncake Posted 6 Jul 2007 , 1:45pm
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They come in both flavors..you can either get the longer pillars and do them as tiers or you can get the shorter pillars and use them as stacked. the plates have a fancy collar where the pillar goes in that you can remove (just pops off) for stacked cakes. I take the cardboard piece that I am going to place the cake on, push it on the plate so it gets the little hole in it for the nail. I just cut the pillars to fit the height of the cake, and them put them on the plate and push the whole thing in. I then take the cardboard plate (I cover mine with contact) that now has the cake itself on it, put a few drops of royal icing on the sbs plate and put the cardboard plate on top. You can then decorate the edging to cover the plate and the cardboard. if you look at my photos of all my stacked plates, they all are using SBS.

Hope I explained the right!




Thank you Loriemoms -- the little collar thing is what was throwing me off!! I didn't know that you could remove it. Which pillars do you typically order? I can order from Bakery Crafts and have the catalogue.

Your cakes are beautiful! Maybe we will cross paths sometime -- I only live about 25 minutes from Apex!

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tichay Posted 6 Jul 2007 , 2:05pm
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as for the "how to cut" question above -- i was shown in one of my cake classes that you can use a pipe cutter (from Lowes/Home Depot, usually in the plumbing dept) on the more rigid pillars (I use the coast system) .. measure (with a seamstress hem ruler), cut, wash, put in cake ..

It doesn't work too well for items that are soft (like the Wilton plastic dowel rods).

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southerncake Posted 6 Jul 2007 , 2:35pm
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as for the "how to cut" question above -- i was shown in one of my cake classes that you can use a pipe cutter (from Lowes/Home Depot, usually in the plumbing dept) on the more rigid pillars (I use the coast system) .. measure (with a seamstress hem ruler), cut, wash, put in cake ..

It doesn't work too well for items that are soft (like the Wilton plastic dowel rods).




Tichay -- where can I find the Coast system?

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miriel Posted 6 Jul 2007 , 5:29pm
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Some people use the fancy collar piece from the plates that you can pop off as the feet of the cake board base, so fingers can slide under easily for moving or transport.

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miriel Posted 6 Jul 2007 , 5:31pm
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where can I find the Coast system?




Here's the Coast system from Pfeil and Holing: http://www.cakedeco.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_main.html?p_catid=266

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Suebee Posted 6 Jul 2007 , 5:33pm
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I'm going to look them up right now they sound great, thanks for all your imput.

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