Fondant Rose Question...

Decorating By bthasns Updated 23 Jun 2007 , 8:04pm by modthyrth

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bthasns Posted 17 Jun 2007 , 4:05pm
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I need to make a motherload of fondant roses by next week. I was told that I should let the center bases dry for 2 days before creating the roses on top of them. However I made the centers last night and left them sitting in front of a fan all night long. Now they seem quite hard. Would it be ok to go ahead and start making the roses today or should I wait?
Thanks!

Beth

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MiaT Posted 17 Jun 2007 , 4:17pm
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I've never seen "wait 2 days". I've seen instructions to "dry overnight". I would think that as long as the centers won't bend and droop when you apply all the other petals, they should be safe to use. Try one, it can't hurt.

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pmw109 Posted 17 Jun 2007 , 4:23pm
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I was told by me WI to dry overnight. I had made a bunch and they were fine. good luck thumbs_up.gif

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bthasns Posted 17 Jun 2007 , 4:25pm
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Thanks! I can't wait to see how this cake turns out!

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miriel Posted 17 Jun 2007 , 5:20pm
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As long as your bases are dry and hold their shape, you can start adding the petals. For a quick rose base, you can also use a Hershey kiss.

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BlairsMom Posted 21 Jun 2007 , 8:38pm
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When you use the hershey kiss do you just cover it with fondant and then start? Just wondered if you would see th kiss? Sorry I guess I can't picture it but I have heard it is great and would love to try it.

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miriel Posted 21 Jun 2007 , 10:39pm
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I don't cover it with the fondant. The first curly petal (center one) that you put on the rose will cover it.

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bcake1960 Posted 22 Jun 2007 , 3:44am
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Congratulations Bthasns!! Good for you! I am sure your cake and roses will come out fine! Be sure to post a picture! Good Luck

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jessi01 Posted 22 Jun 2007 , 11:42am
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Are there any pics of the process using the kisses? I never tried it but would like to. I've only ever made roses with mmf and they turned out fine, never knew to let part of it dry overnight,I just did the whole thing at once icon_confused.gif
~ I'm sure your roses will be beautiful!

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Tellis12 Posted 22 Jun 2007 , 1:03pm
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I tried mmf roses last night for the first time and I just couldn't get them to look right. I followed the directions on the wilton page but the petals kept drooping and my base always ended up really fat. I really wanted them to work.

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modthyrth Posted 22 Jun 2007 , 4:46pm
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Eh, I never bother letting the centers dry for more than, oh, an hour tops. Here's what I usually do when I have to make a lot, like for this cake:

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--Make a bunch kiss-shaped centers, but no more than perhaps a third of what I need.
--Start making roses and adding the petals to the centers. once I'm satisfied with how many petals I've added, yes, the base is WAY too fat! But that's an easy fix--you just pinch and twist off about half of that bulk. It makes the rose open up a bit, it cements the rose together nicely, and no wonky bottom-heavy roses.
--use the stuff you just pinched off to make a couple more rose centers.


If your roses are drooping, either your fondant isn't quite stiff enough, or you're making the petals too thin. If you want super thin and realistic roses, you need to be working with gumpaste. Fondant roses can get pretty thin and realistic, but you've got to understand the limitations of the medium you've chosen.

When I make gumpaste roses, I do let the centers dry on a wire overnight. But they're always ready to go by the next day, no need to wait two days.

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jessi01 Posted 23 Jun 2007 , 12:59pm
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thanks, your roses are beautiful!!! icon_eek.gif

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Tellis12 Posted 23 Jun 2007 , 1:47pm
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Thanks for the tips. I've always thought that your cake is absolutely gorgeous.

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crazycakes2007 Posted 23 Jun 2007 , 5:35pm
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I'm so new to fondant, I'm a bit embarrassed icon_redface.gif but am dying to ask... How do you cut a cake covered in fondant roses?

Also, gumpaste flowers... do you just remove them before cutting the cake?

Thanks!

Cheryl
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modthyrth Posted 23 Jun 2007 , 6:14pm
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Heh. I have no clue how you cut it. I made the cake for a friend of a freind as a favor. I was just happy to have an excuse to make that cake. Cutting it was their problem. icon_wink.gif But my friend reported that it actually cut quite easily, more easily than expected. Just take a sharp knife and dig in, I guess!

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mekaclayton Posted 23 Jun 2007 , 7:28pm
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I let my centers dry overnight...never 2 days unless I just have a few to do and not pressed for time (in which it seems I always am HA HA HA HA). When I use fondant, do make my petals thin, really thin but you have to let them dry upside down and at least a day for sure because it is fondant and it doesn't dry like gumpaste. Fondant is a different medium than gumpaste but you can achieve realistic flowers from fondant. I do prefer gumpaste over fondant at times but if you are going to cut into a cake (say for instance the one shown) I would definitely go with fondant. Sharp knife and dig in.

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Lenore Posted 23 Jun 2007 , 8:01pm
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I also twist and pull off the bottom of my fondant roses like modthyrth (I thought that was my very own trick!!) however I do let the centers dry overnight so most of what I am pulling off is the bottom of the petals which you will see builds up quickly. I do believe that the purpose of drying the base overnight is so that the base is cemented well to the toothpick or whatever substrate you are using. I find that if the base is not dry enough it falls of of the toothpick while I am working or when I finally hang the rose upside down to dry there it is on the floor. Also, the twisting and pulling off of the bottom does make the rose look much better and set on the cake well.

I pull all the fondant roses off of the cake before serving because I do not like the texture/taste of the dried fondant rose. I guess it is whatever you prefer. Best of luck to you and have fun!!

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modthyrth Posted 23 Jun 2007 , 8:04pm
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I think Lenore has hit upon the important element. If you are mounting the rose on something--a toothpick, a wire, whatever--the center needs to dry overnight. If you're just putting the roses directly on the cake --adhering with icing, no spikes going into the cake of any sort--there's no need to pre-dry the centers.

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