Is It Hot Knife, Wet Knife, Or Both?

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maemae Posted 11 Jul 2006 , 4:39am
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Yes, it's about buttercream...but i was afraid if i put that in the topic people would start throwing couplers at me!

When you're smoothing (yes, this again)...you dip your knife into hot water...are you heating the knife so the knife warms the buttercream to smoother glossy finish...or is it the warm water that's doing it...

bottom line...should i wipe the water off the knife after dipping?

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SugarFrosted Posted 11 Jul 2006 , 4:46am
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Personally, I would wipe off the water.

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Anna

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maemae Posted 11 Jul 2006 , 4:56am
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okay, so then the water really doesn't do anything?

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cowdex Posted 11 Jul 2006 , 4:58am
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I don't wipe - but I do shake it off.

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maemae Posted 11 Jul 2006 , 5:08am
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Okay...so this could be the funniest thread yet...

are you a dipper and shaker?
are you a dipper and smoother?

How about a dipper and wiper?

Do you DIP at all????????????????????

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tobycat Posted 11 Jul 2006 , 5:09am
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Most of the time I wipe it off, but I make sure that the water is as hot as I can get it. Sometimes though, I leave a little of the water on there because it seems to help smooth things out when the knife alone isn't working perfectly. I think it's because the water is still hotter than what I can get the knife to be. (But, this may only be my imagination icon_confused.gif )

Good Luck! In the end, just do what works for you!

Sarah

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cowdex Posted 11 Jul 2006 , 5:33am
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Most of the time I wipe it off, but I make sure that the water is as hot as I can get it. Sometimes though, I leave a little of the water on there because it seems to help smooth things out when the knife alone isn't working perfectly.




I agree - I think that little bit of water helps.

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freddyfl Posted 11 Jul 2006 , 5:35am
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I have done the dip and wipe, the dip and shake, and I prefer the dip and shake. But i haven't done it in awhile as I found using wax paper worked better, but next cake I make I am going to try the viva method.

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cowdex Posted 11 Jul 2006 , 5:38am
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I get to try the VIVA method tomorrow night...wish me luck....I might be on here crying.....

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Kazoot Posted 11 Jul 2006 , 5:51am
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I'm a dipper and a shaker!! LOL I think a bit of water helps. Actually, I use a bench scraper--Plastic--for smoothing and then use a spatula if needed. I put the water in a bowl wide enough for my bench scraper and heat it to almost boiling in the microwave. HTH

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maemae Posted 11 Jul 2006 , 12:08pm
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i watched a video of a professional chef, and he put his spatula in the very center of the cake, spun the turntable around and slowly brought out the spatula (as if making a spiral) but the cake was perfectly smooth on top.....it was like magic...right before your eyes....(do you think he twitched his nose???)

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tobycat Posted 11 Jul 2006 , 2:38pm
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i watched a video of a professional chef, and he put his spatula in the very center of the cake, spun the turntable around and slowly brought out the spatula (as if making a spiral) but the cake was perfectly smooth on top.....it was like magic...right before your eyes....(do you think he twitched his nose???)




This is how I start every time I ice, but my icing is just never smooth enough, and then I just HAVE TO MESS WITH IT too much and I end up making more work for myself because I always have to go back and smooth it again! Just can't leave well enough alone here! icon_rolleyes.gif

Sarah

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Tonja Posted 11 Jul 2006 , 2:44pm
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what exactly is a bench scraper? I see that alot of decorators use it... Also, I ran across a decoorator whose cakes were AMAZINGLY smooth who everyone on here raves about... do you know who that was? Thanks for all the help..

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AuntEm Posted 11 Jul 2006 , 3:36pm
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But i haven't done it in awhile as I found using wax paper worked better, but next cake I make I am going to try the viva method.





How do you use wax paper? Is it like the Viva method only with wax paper?
Thanks,
Emily

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barbaranoel Posted 11 Jul 2006 , 3:46pm
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One little thing I learned is that if you take a spray bottle and squirt just a little water directly on the cake then smooth, it works perfectly. Doesn't matter what tempurature the water is.

Barb

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yellobutterfly Posted 11 Jul 2006 , 3:46pm
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The bakery where I briefly worked at took a spray bottle of water to the cake, then smoothed with a spatula. I did this for awhile, but found if I wasn't careful I had too much water before long, and then the bc was harder to work with (too soft). Now I take my spray bottle, spray the spatula, then shake off excess then smoothe cake. Sometimes if my bc is particularly stiff that day I'll also give the cake a few light sprays, just always be careful not to get too much on it.

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tiptop57 Posted 11 Jul 2006 , 3:55pm
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Tonja, That would be Sugarshack. Her cakes are fantastic!

Emily, according to other threads, wax paper is just like viva. I even remember someone using copier paper. I guess whatever works for you.

Personally, I throw tons of BC on the cake with the icing coupler and then remove it till it is fairly smooth with one of the cake spatula's then finish with Viva. icon_lol.gif

I tried the hot water method and my results weren't as great as the other method.

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ntertayneme Posted 11 Jul 2006 , 3:56pm
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http://www.cakecentral.com/article10-How-To-Create-Faux-Fondant-The-Paper-Towel-Method----Viva.html

This is a link to the Viva papertowel method... it's the only method I use!!

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candyladyhelen Posted 11 Jul 2006 , 4:22pm
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I dip into boiled water & use the water left on the knife too.

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Taigen Posted 13 Jul 2006 , 12:37pm
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I'm pretty new to this but I use the spatuala in hot water and shake a bit. I wait a little while and use computer paper to finish smoothing.
I really need to pick up the large spackler from the hardware store though, I keep forgetting it!!!

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sun33082 Posted 13 Jul 2006 , 12:44pm
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I always use viva, but I'm getting kinda tired of it lol Why can't cakes just bake and ice themselves so we can get to the fun part? hehe

This popped in my head when I read the title to this thread. What about using a hair dryer or something like that to heat up the spatula? Wouldn't it get the spatula hotter and maybe stay hotter longer? Or would it be too hot? Just curious.

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MissT Posted 13 Jul 2006 , 1:25pm
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Originally Posted by sun33082

I always use viva, but I'm getting kinda tired of it lol Why can't cakes just bake and ice themselves so we can get to the fun part? hehe

This popped in my head when I read the title to this thread. What about using a hair dryer or something like that to heat up the spatula? Wouldn't it get the spatula hotter and maybe stay hotter longer? Or would it be too hot? Just curious.




I like the idea of a cake just baking and icing itself - in a perfect world. icon_rolleyes.gif Anyway, so I didn't try a hair dryer, but I did try to heat over stove years ago and I think my icing melted - it was too hot. icon_redface.gif

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