Royal Icing Flowers And Buttercream--Yikes

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dragonfly0813 Posted 26 Jun 2006 , 8:41pm
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Is it possible to attach royal icing flowers to a cake iced in buttercream? I did it on my last cake and it was a disaster! See how the yellow bled through onto the daisies? I learn a lesson with each cake, and boy was this a big one!
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rhondie Posted 26 Jun 2006 , 8:50pm
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I'm confused I thought you could. Actually I have done it. What other factors might have been at play? Temp? Flowers to thin? I don't know?

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yh9080 Posted 26 Jun 2006 , 8:54pm
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I do it all the time but I usually use white buttercream to attach royal flowers.

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dragonfly0813 Posted 26 Jun 2006 , 8:56pm
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The house was pretty cool, so I don't think heat would have been a factor. The flowers seemed to be pretty sturdy, so I wouldn't think that would have been it either. The only thing I could come up with was that the shortening in the BC didn't jive with the royal icing. That can't be it though if you've done it before with no problems.

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lapazlady Posted 26 Jun 2006 , 9:06pm
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I've had similar problems. I started putting small pieces of marshmellows on the royal icing flowers to prevent direct contact with the buttercream. The marshmellow has to be small so it doesn't show, but it did solve the problem. Grease and royal icing don't do too well together. La Paz Lady

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justsweet Posted 26 Jun 2006 , 9:11pm
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What recipe are you using? I have used royal or snow buttercream and have not any problems but my flowers have dried for a few days or longer.

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dragonfly0813 Posted 26 Jun 2006 , 9:13pm
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Thanks for the marshmallow tip. I'll try that.

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dragonfly0813 Posted 26 Jun 2006 , 9:15pm
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Do you mean my buttercream recipe? It's shortening, flavoring, water, powdered sugar, meringue powder and salt. The royal icing is just powdered sugar, meringue powder and water. I made the flowers a week in advance. I'm just stumped!

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justsweet Posted 26 Jun 2006 , 9:20pm
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The royal icing, what merigue product are you using. Wilton was all ways a problem for me I changed brands.


This recipe from Wilton- snow white frosting is awesome for air dired flowers. You can also ice a cake but it works great for flowers.

http://www.wilton.com/recipes/recipesandprojects/icing/snow.cfm

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SarahJane Posted 27 Jun 2006 , 5:09am
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Maybe your icing was too thin. If you decorate the cake and let the buttercream crust before you attach the flowers, it shouldn't bleed onto your flowers. Were the daisies all the way dry? I've put royal icing flowers on buttercream cakes a million times (check out my showers cakes) and I've never had a problem.

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tobycat Posted 27 Jun 2006 , 6:00am
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Boy that looks like a lot of seepage from the yellow. I am also wondering if the flowers were fully dry. I've used royal icing daisys on chocolate buttercream and didn't have any bleeding.

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Loucinda Posted 27 Jun 2006 , 1:56pm
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I have a dummy cake setting here that I iced in the snow white buttercream and put the royal flowers on (it is a mini version of the Wilton Course II Cake) Not a problem at all. I also used the royal flowers on all of my teapot cakes (I have made 20+ of those) and I use buttercream icing on them also......never a problem. I am thinking that maybe your royal flowers were not completely dried??

I have them made up for literally weeks in advance and I have always put them on the buttercream cakes and never had an issue. That is pretty wild how that happened?

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Ladivacrj Posted 27 Jun 2006 , 2:04pm
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I have made many cakes with BC and RI flowers some are in my pics, they have never broken down nor bleed.

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dragonfly0813 Posted 27 Jun 2006 , 6:59pm
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I actually put some bc on the daisy to attach it. I didn't think it would stick otherwise. Maybe that's where I went wrong. I'm hearing over and over again that Wilton products are problematic. I've got to try something else!

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Loucinda Posted 27 Jun 2006 , 8:23pm
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The stuff I am working with on those cakes is Wilton (I teach it in class!) So that shoud not be the problem. I really think that the flowers more than likely were not as dry as they should have been. Good luck on the next one - and make the flowers as far in advance as you possibly can.

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Sammy-2002 Posted 27 Jun 2006 , 8:29pm
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I'm really surprised how much that affected your royal icing daisies!

I often attach royal icing flowers to cakes, but use white buttercream to attach them, so I guess that's why this has never happened to me (yet!).

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mcalhoun Posted 27 Jun 2006 , 8:43pm
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No help on what might have happened as I have attached royal flowers to many colors of buttercream and never had a problem. BUT I think the daisys look cool anywayicon_smile.gif

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SarahJane Posted 28 Jun 2006 , 8:13am
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I haven't had problems with wilton stuff. I think it's actually very good.

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