Help, Please! Viva Method- Wrinkly Results.
Decorating By albumangel Updated 5 Apr 2007 , 11:41pm by sunflowerfreak
I've always used the Viva method to smooth my BC cakes, and it's always worked out well. I've even used the "Brite White Buttercream" recipe on this site before (uses "Sweetex" Hi Ratio Shortening). Today is my final Wilton 3 course, so I iced my 2 cakes, let them crust, and went to smooth them with the Viva towel, but now they have a "wrinkly" texture- very fine lines that all the smoothing in the world doesn't remove (see attached pic). Like the icing got too dry, maybe? When I've smoothed this way before, the buttercream still had a bit of a sheen to it- this just looks old & dried up. I know it won't be noticable once they are decorated, but it's disappointing.
Has this happenned to anyone before? Any tricks for trying to fix it? Any tips for avoiding it in the future?
Thanks!
Maybe you need to rub harder. I don't really know. Did you use your hand or fondant smoother? I use them both, but do my final smoothing with my hand. Try going over it again with typing paper.
I don't know the answer, but it has happened to me, too.
Just gets kind of dried out looking (and feeling).
Sorry I can't help but just wanted to say you are not alone!
You already hit the nail on the head... your icing was too crusted. If you let it crust too long you will get a dry, old, cracked looked to the icing.
Yes I too have had this happen. I decided it was that my BC icing was a bit too thick/dry. So, what I came up with in my little mind without scrapping it all in the garbage lol... was that I just dipping my knife in ice water and went about the cake, re-icing it, so to speak. Technically I didnt
add any icing, but the little drops of water on the cake, spreading around into my already crusted wrinkly icing, kind of melded in and just did the trick. Sorry, I dont know how to explain it any better, but it worked!
After it sat a bit, recrusting... I did the VIVA method again and smoothed with my pampered chef roller and voila no wrinkles!
(yes a hassle, but much easier than scrapping all my work)
you can get a spray bottle of water and turn the nozle to the fine mist then gently mist the cake. Let the cake sit for a second to absorb the moisture then run your spatula over it again reicing it. Let it crust then use the viva paper towel again. May be try that and let us know how it goes
I'd have to agree that the icing had crusted too long. I had this happen once and did the spray bottle trick and it worked great.
I'd have to agree that the icing had crusted too long. I had this happen once and did the spray bottle trick and it worked great.
So how long should the icing crust for? The first time I tried smoothing this way - it came out looking like this. I was so disappointed! I haven't tried since!
After I sprayed the cake, I really didn't let it sit for very long at all. Probably not even 5 minutes. I used the Viva method instead of a spatula though.
I only let it crust for about 15 minutes..I believe that was the directions said and it worked well for me. I just had a cute little design on my cake from my paper towel....I didnt have any Viva
I've had this happen multiple time with the Viva method. I have to say I haven't touch the papertowels since I learned the "Melvira Method", it really does work so much nicer and faster. I have to give her credit again! Give it a shot next time, you won't be sorry! Good Luck!
Thanks, everyone!! For some reason I wasn't getting notified of your replies, and thought I must be the only one.
So, I realized that this icing just doesn't work well with the Viva method- maybe because it's all Hi-Ratio shortening and no butter. I tried to re-ice it, then one side came sliding off (probably because I messed with it too much) and I had to scrape off a whole section and start over.
But, I went to the hardware store and came home with a high-density foam roller! WOW!! I'm hooked on the Melvira method!! When I took my cakes out at class, my Wilton instructor TOTALLY thought it was fondant- wouldn't believe it was buttercream. Here's the finished cake (in my photos, Wilton Course 3 cake).
http://www.cakecentral.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&meta=allby&uname=albumangel&cat=0&pos=0
THANKS for all of your replies!
Hehehehehe!! That doesn't hurt my feelings ONE BIT to hear that!! Great job knocking your teacher's socks off!!
I'm so glad to have seen this post - my wrinkly cakes drive me crazy, too!!! I wish there were a formula to tell me how long to let it crust before Viva-ing it or Melvira-ing it I get roller marks when I try to do it that way; I wonder if the roller I bought was too cheap? I guess I just need LOTS more practice, but the advice from all of you is SOOOOOOOO welcome and helpful! Thanks - PAT
Albumangel your cake is absolutely beautiful. You did a fantastic job!! I love the Melvira method too.
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