Fondant

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emvscakes Posted 4 Feb 2006 , 1:37am
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Is fondant the same as sugar dough?

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SquirrellyCakes Posted 4 Feb 2006 , 4:09am
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Rolled fondant can be called sugar dough and sugar paste. But not all fondant is rolled fondant, there is poured fondant and soft fondant centres used to make candy.
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rach1 Posted 4 Feb 2006 , 9:20am
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In the UK fondant is sugarpaste and sugar dough is a newer product..

Squires Kitchen produce it and it comes in all different colours..It is good for modelling ..I have used it a few times but it is not as strong as mexian modelling paste..

But it depends what you are usingit for..sugar dough doesnt have as many gums strenghteners in it as mexian ...it will set hard but it will be soft enough to eat..

It is slightly courser that the mexian paste..I quite like it ,..well I like both..I have just orderd up some more and will be doing a cake with them in the next couple of weks..and that is going to be modelling so should be interesting.....

I do like the range of colours it come in saves alot of time....

you can get it from squires kitchen like I said and the do worldwide delivery..

Hope that helps

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SquirrellyCakes Posted 4 Feb 2006 , 10:22pm
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Originally Posted by rach1

In the UK fondant is sugarpaste and sugar dough is a newer product..

Squires Kitchen produce it and it comes in all different colours..It is good for modelling ..I have used it a few times but it is not as strong as mexian modelling paste..

But it depends what you are usingit for..sugar dough doesnt have as many gums strenghteners in it as mexian ...it will set hard but it will be soft enough to eat..

It is slightly courser that the mexian paste..I quite like it ,..well I like both..I have just orderd up some more and will be doing a cake with them in the next couple of weks..and that is going to be modelling so should be interesting.....

I do like the range of colours it come in saves alot of time....

you can get it from squires kitchen like I said and the do worldwide delivery..

Hope that helps



Haha, well it gets further confusing because in the U.S. it can refer to both fondant and gumpaste and to further confuse issues it can even be a pressable cookie dough.
I guess what we need to know is where the term was used because some decorators use it for various types of sugar pastes.
What is the Squire's Kitchen Website? I would like to look up the breakdown of their sugar dough. Many fondants in Canada and the U.S. do have a hardening or gum agent in them.
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Tuggy Posted 4 Feb 2006 , 10:29pm
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Squire´s Kitchen website is: http://www.squires-group.co.uk/index.shtml

I don´t know were to look for the breakdown, but maybe there is an information in the shop section.

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SquirrellyCakes Posted 5 Feb 2006 , 3:30am
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Squire´s Kitchen website is: http://www.squires-group.co.uk/index.shtml

I don´t know were to look for the breakdown, but maybe there is an information in the shop section.



Thanks Tuggy, I just wasn't bringing it up in a search.
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SquirrellyCakes Posted 5 Feb 2006 , 3:39am
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Hhmn, I could find petal paste and such but not something specifically called sugar dough so I am a bit lost as to which product is referred to. Wonderful site and products!
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auntiecake Posted 5 Feb 2006 , 7:47am
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I went to the UK Squires site and found sugar paste in all different colors. Says it contains gum for stability so I am guessing that is a gum agent.

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rach1 Posted 5 Feb 2006 , 8:26am
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On the squires site if you look under ready made sugars it is there..

I do have some at home so if you want the ingredients listed let me know and I will type them up...actually just ordered some more aswell... icon_biggrin.gif

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SquirrellyCakes Posted 5 Feb 2006 , 3:52pm
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On the squires site if you look under ready made sugars it is there..

I do have some at home so if you want the ingredients listed let me know and I will type them up...actually just ordered some more aswell... icon_biggrin.gif



I found the Sugar Dough, they don't give a breakdown of ingredients. If you wouldn't mind listing them, I would appreciate it.
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rach1 Posted 5 Feb 2006 , 4:22pm
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Ok Here you go

Hope it helps

Sugar Dough

Cane sugar, glucose, water,hydrogenated vegetable fat, Starch (maize). Emulsifiers; E471, E466, E475. Preservative : E260..Flavourings : Vanilla

Rach

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SquirrellyCakes Posted 5 Feb 2006 , 4:26pm
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Ok Here you go

Hope it helps

Sugar Dough

Cane sugar, glucose, water,hydrogenated vegetable fat, Starch (maize). Emulsifiers; E471, E466, E475. Preservative : E260..Flavourings : Vanilla

Rach



Interesting, they don't seem to have listed a hardening agent.
Oh, thought you might find this post interesting.
http://cakecentral.com/cake-decorating-ftopict-15823.html
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rach1 Posted 5 Feb 2006 , 4:33pm
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they say if you want it harder to add some gum trag..and softer add some white fat........

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rach1 Posted 5 Feb 2006 , 4:36pm
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HE he

Just read that link..wow very interesting..think I might try that...have some issues with my ribbons love all the ones in the galleries here..

So I think I will give it a try soon..

Thanks... icon_biggrin.gif

Rach x

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SquirrellyCakes Posted 5 Feb 2006 , 4:38pm
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they say if you want it harder to add some gum trag..and softer add some white fat........



It basically sounds like how fondant is made in the U.S. and Canada although some fondants here use a hardening agent like gum trag..
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rach1 Posted 5 Feb 2006 , 4:43pm
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Why cant we all have the same..it would be alot easier..I find it is abit courser to the feel and stronger than our normal sugarpaste..also more expensive our sugarpaste here is abot £3 per kilo and sugar dough is £3.75 for 200g icon_eek.gif

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auntiecake Posted 5 Feb 2006 , 4:49pm
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Fixdent sounds interesting. I will have to try it! What is the advantage over gum trag? I know you said it left a minty flavor.

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SquirrellyCakes Posted 5 Feb 2006 , 11:26pm
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Fixdent sounds interesting. I will have to try it! What is the advantage over gum trag? I know you said it left a minty flavor.



Heehee, well not me but Sewsweet, I suspect the advantage is, it is cheaper and sounds like it actually does a better job than adding Gum-tex to fondant. Sort of a new in between version of not quite fondant, not quite gumpaste, haha! I tried to get a box of Fixadent powder today at the pharmacy but they were out. I will try again and give it a try and let you know. From the sound of things, it works really well and at the price of Gum-tex here, might be just the thing for me. Haha, hubby has dentures but doesn't use that...yet!
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SquirrellyCakes Posted 5 Feb 2006 , 11:34pm
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Why cant we all have the same..it would be alot easier..I find it is abit courser to the feel and stronger than our normal sugarpaste..also more expensive our sugarpaste here is abot £3 per kilo and sugar dough is £3.75 for 200g icon_eek.gif



Well, from what my pal Auzzie and others tell me, your fondant is made a bit differently than the fondant in the U.S. and actually you folks are the experts in the UK and Australia. So I think that might be why the products are different. I think your fondant on the whole is finer to begin with. Now here in Canada and the U.S. there is always cornstarch in our powdered sugar whereas there you don't have it added. So I am wondering if because it is in this Sugar Dough product, if it doesn't make it a bit more similar to U.S. fondant.
And yes, doesn't it get confusing the difference in terms and such?
By coarser to the feel, do you mean it feels a bit more gritty, sugary? I am asking because one of the local bakeries here sells their own fondant and they use fondant sugar in it and it is grittier than other fondants I buy also. Things are not that consistant here either with some fondants having a gum added, others not.
But you know, between or amongst us all, we sort it out, to some degree, haha!
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rach1 Posted 6 Feb 2006 , 8:37am
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Yep the sugar dough is good for modelling stronger but to me it does feel abit as you say grittier......still lovely to work though..

I have got to make a penguin cake next week so ordered up some black and orange as its easier than trying to colour up myself..especailly the black..so I will let you know how I get on.....

I hope it will work well but you never know until you try...

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