What Would You Do???????

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pancake Posted 28 Feb 2007 , 12:01am
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Okay this is what happened.....a customer just called & asked if I could make her some gumpaste/fondant flowers to go onto a cake that SHE is baking and frosting! Weird?!? icon_confused.gif Do you guys ever do this?....just make the decorations and hand them over to someone? What the heck would I charge? What if the cake looks awful & people find out that I made the flowers for it!? So I repeat...what would YOU do?

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pancake Posted 28 Feb 2007 , 12:11am
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Is everyone busy making supper like I'm supposed to be doing?!

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meihana Posted 28 Feb 2007 , 12:13am
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Hmm, I wouldn't do it. Like you said, your work and her work might look nothing alike. Just kindly explain that you make cakes, not cake decorations. icon_smile.gif

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mcassada Posted 28 Feb 2007 , 12:18am
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yeah i would say no go on that....

she could make your work look awful and no one wants that to happen

if shes serious about doing cakes then she should learn the flowers herself

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Eme Posted 28 Feb 2007 , 12:19am
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Originally Posted by pancake

Okay this is what happened..... what would YOU do?


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NOT!!!

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Narie Posted 28 Feb 2007 , 12:21am
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You could give her the names or web addresses of companies that do sell gum paste flowers. That way you are being helpful without really getting involved.

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pancake Posted 28 Feb 2007 , 12:22am
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Ya that's kinda what I was thinking....now I don't really know how to say that I don't do that. I guess that's it, I'll just say "I don't do that!"

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subaru Posted 28 Feb 2007 , 12:23am
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I would tell her that there are several sites on-line that sell them!
Maybe she'll figure out that by the time she goes to all the trouble of ordering, paying shipping etc, that she would be much better off paying YOU to do the whole thing.

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jmt1714 Posted 28 Feb 2007 , 12:33am
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why not? no matter what she does to her cake, it won't affect how your flowers look. i did the orchids for a the wedding cake a friend made for her daughter. I think I would have done a better job on teh cake, but it was important to her to make her daughter's cak and her daughter also wanted the orchids (they are in my photos). It was a win win for everyone.

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Kiddiekakes Posted 28 Feb 2007 , 12:39am
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You know that's a tough call because you don't want to be mean or rude but I agree with everyone..I would politely say that you prefer to make the whole cake and not bits and pieces...or however you word it but I would have no problem saying.."I don't do that"...

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justducky Posted 28 Feb 2007 , 12:47am
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When I get in a pinch, I order mine online. What is the difference? You are selling a product. If the cake stinks, it is not your problem.

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tripletmom Posted 28 Feb 2007 , 12:53am
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Why not think of this as just another talent, your ability to make beautiful accents for cakes? Anyone can buy something but when it's made by someone they know it seems more special. I would call some places or check online what they would charge and go from there. You do make some beautiful flowers so I can see why she asked you to do this!

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RisqueBusiness Posted 28 Feb 2007 , 12:53am
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why not? your flowers, her cake...like most people that would order their flowers ready made.

If you have a problem with that just tell her not to tell people where she got them,

but this sounds like a way to make extra income. I made air drying butter cream and marzipan flowers for my local bakery for about a year. It was a pretty good deal. thumbs_up.gif

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nglez09 Posted 28 Feb 2007 , 12:54am
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Don't do it. You're not a manufacturer of "accessories".

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tripletmom Posted 28 Feb 2007 , 12:56am
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Originally Posted by RisqueBusiness

why not? your flowers, her cake...like most people that would order their flowers ready made.

If you have a problem with that just tell her not to tell people where she got them,

but this sounds like a way to make extra income




Yep, I would be inclined to agree, particularly the 'extra income' part!

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HollyPJ Posted 28 Feb 2007 , 12:59am
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I don't see any reason not to unless you really don't like making gumpaste flowers!

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indydebi Posted 28 Feb 2007 , 12:59am
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I don't see the problem. If a cake decorator puts silk florals on a cake, no one talks about "....that ugly cake with the Hobby Lobby flowers." They would talk about Sally Sue's ugly cake. I can't see how this would really affect you at all except give you an opportunity to start a side business with your talents.

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RisqueBusiness Posted 28 Feb 2007 , 1:00am
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Yep, there are a lot of fancy cake decorators out there that don't bake their own cakes...the bakery that I made the flowers for always offered to sell me cakes for me if I ever needed them.

but I wasn't lic so I never took them up on the offer. But it was nice to have a little corner there to make my flowers.

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MaisieBake Posted 28 Feb 2007 , 1:04am
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Are you business or hobby?

If you're business, here's an easy sale. If you're hobby, easy money might not matter as much as the need to control every aspect of any cake you're involved with.

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peg818 Posted 28 Feb 2007 , 1:17am
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If you like doing the flowers, go ahead and do them. Just make sure you charge enough for them

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vickinc Posted 28 Feb 2007 , 2:09am
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I wouldnt do it! I dont know how to make them and I know people that do but I found them online for reasonable prices so I didnt bother anyone about it. After they saw my cakes, they thought I did a great job. I still buy them but would love to learn how to make them.

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Wendoger Posted 28 Feb 2007 , 2:56am
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I agree with HollyPJ....why not?????? icon_rolleyes.gif

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JoAnnB Posted 28 Feb 2007 , 6:40am
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I have done it several times. I charge a premium price. When you order then online, there is no guarantee the color will match, or that one or more won't be broken. There are a few decorators in my area that know I make flowers-and they don't.

I even had one bride contact me because the Albetson's store didn't make gp orchids.

Easy money in my opinion.

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pancake Posted 28 Feb 2007 , 6:45am
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Ok now you've all got me thinking that I should consider it, so what the heck do ya charge? I haven't the slightest idea.....because so far, it's been included in the overall price of the cake. I've checked the ones online & them seem very inexpensive,...like $2 each!!

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JoAnnB Posted 28 Feb 2007 , 6:51am
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I charged 7.50 each for orchids, and 4.00 for a rose, with some leaves.

If they want a spray, $35 minimum, and I include ribbon picks and small 5 petal flowers, (usually white- I have gobs on hand, in case)

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heartsfire Posted 28 Feb 2007 , 7:13am
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Well I guess it would all depend on if I had the time and if I needed the money. I have made cakes where I have used flowers purchased wholesale just because I didn't have time to make my own.

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jmt1714 Posted 28 Feb 2007 , 2:11pm
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the ones online ARE inexpensive, but you get what you pay for. take a close look at them, then look at the type and quality of flowers that some of the CC members do - there is a WORLD of difference. custom made and higher quality flowers should command a higher price.

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Aliwis000 Posted 28 Feb 2007 , 2:53pm
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I say go for it. And if you are a business then this is just another service you offer, my parents own a printing shop, we sale blank paper if a customer asks for it, this is the same. If the cake looks like heck the flowers will still look wonderful people might not think she made them anyway. "Wow the flowers look amazing...too bad she cant even do a even star boarder"

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pancake Posted 1 Mar 2007 , 5:03pm
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Thanks for your input everyone! JoAnnB, thank you for your help. I ended up figuring out prices to sell my wired flowers. I called the lady to give them to her and she told me that she wants royal icing or drop flowers, not gumpaste......so I pretty much said 'I don't do that'. I'm not interested in selling my RI decorations. icon_smile.gif I get the impression she was trying to be as economical about this as possible, but still have her cake look like she hired a professional, although she was unwilling to hire one!

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ChefAngie Posted 1 Mar 2007 , 5:19pm
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Flowers and boquets to sell is an added product. You can compare prices on the internet, catologs and cake decorating supply shops.
Single flowers-roses made with royal icing-tip 104 are $1.00 each. Sell them by half or dozen.
Gumpaste and rolled fondant are labor intense.
Cost out your ingredients and multiply by 3, 5, 7 whatever your target market will allow.
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