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How much extra for cornelli lace?

post #1 of 44
Thread Starter 

I know, I know. Its a question about price!!:-X

 That being said, I have all of my base prices set and I know how much I need to charge for various extras. My problem is I have done cornelli lace before but never covering an entire 4 tier wedding cake before. CRINGE! My hand hurts just thinking about it! What I am wondering is how much more per serving do some of you charge for this. I am thinking nothing is going to be enough but I was just curious. Thanks

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post #2 of 44
I can't say about price..but I'm wondering if your hand really hurts by the end of it if your royal icing might be just a bit too stiff?
post #3 of 44
Thread Starter 

I have always had problems with my hands cramping and hurting when I do a lot of piping.

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post #4 of 44

Honestly, i don't charge any extra for cornelli lace.  It covers a multitude of sins and is really easy.  I can cover a cake in five minutes.  The whole thing would be done in under an hour with ten minute breaks in between layers.

 

This could easily be an "added value" item for the event. 

 

I would suggest you practice on a round to see how long it will really take you.

post #5 of 44

She might be right.  If you use standard American Buttercream, add a little bit of water or milk to it to soften it up.  I remember doing a lot of piping on a wedding cake and then ran upstairs to brush my teeth before delivering the cake and the toothbrush fell out of my hand............I couldn't hold onto it.  That's when I decided my icing was too stiff. 

post #6 of 44
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Originally Posted by mariak View Post

I have always had problems with my hands cramping and hurting when I do a lot of piping.

Hi! I would really suggest thinning out your icing. I promise your hands don't have to hurt even if you don't do alot of piping icon_smile.gif
post #7 of 44
Thread Starter 

Thanks everyone. I always thought my icing was fine but maybe it is too thick. I will try thinning it more. Thanks

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Dominic-15, Luke-14, Philip-14, Nicholas-9,
Rebecca-8, Christopher-6, Sarah-5, Anthony-3, Monica-2, Gabe-8 months and
Charles, my little angel in heaven who would have been 12!

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Dominic-15, Luke-14, Philip-14, Nicholas-9,
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post #8 of 44
Let me know how it goes..sorry I couldn't help with your original question icon_sad.gif .
post #9 of 44

If you mean this:

http://www.wilton.com/technique/Cornelli-Lace

not to be confused with this:

http://www.wilton.com/technique/Sotas

it's very intricate (preventing lines from touching) and somewhat time-consuming.

 

Since the entire cake will be piped with that technique, and no other decorations are required, I'd consider offering it at no additional charge on only two of the four tiers.  I'd suggest they choose another design on every other tier, or they pay an upcharge for the extra work on the remaining two tiers.  I can't tell you how much extra to charge (only you know how fast or slow you can pipe), but you'll regret it during the process when you realize you didn't charge enough.

HOW TO:
Make tip #127D (giant rose tip) Ruffle cake,
Write with icing,
Make buttercream roses on a stick:
http://s984.photobucket.com/albums/ae322/Unlimited1cakes/
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HOW TO:
Make tip #127D (giant rose tip) Ruffle cake,
Write with icing,
Make buttercream roses on a stick:
http://s984.photobucket.com/albums/ae322/Unlimited1cakes/
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post #10 of 44
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Originally Posted by matthewkyrankelly View Post

Honestly, i don't charge any extra for cornelli lace.  It covers a multitude of sins and is really easy. 

www.VeryDeliciousDesserts.com

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Delicious-Desserts/207874222593145

 

It's never "just cake!"

 

You may get a cake for $way to little but you won't get this cake!

Animal
(4 photos)
 
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www.VeryDeliciousDesserts.com

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Delicious-Desserts/207874222593145

 

It's never "just cake!"

 

You may get a cake for $way to little but you won't get this cake!

Animal
(4 photos)
 
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post #11 of 44
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Originally Posted by Supermom35 View Post

Since the lace looks like a nice finishing touch I would charge an extra $100 at least. Plus like you said it does hurt your hand! Especially when you have multiple layers. 
Have you done cornelli before, Supermom? How do you decide how far apart the piping should be placed? What size tip do you use? What size bag?
post #12 of 44
Do you have a picture you can share of how it came out?
post #13 of 44
Thread Starter 

This is the cake she wants. I am trying to look close and from what I can tell none of the lines are touching. I know it isn't difficult, just time consuming!

Mommy to Eleven!
Dominic-15, Luke-14, Philip-14, Nicholas-9,
Rebecca-8, Christopher-6, Sarah-5, Anthony-3, Monica-2, Gabe-8 months and
Charles, my little angel in heaven who would have been 12!

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Dominic-15, Luke-14, Philip-14, Nicholas-9,
Rebecca-8, Christopher-6, Sarah-5, Anthony-3, Monica-2, Gabe-8 months and
Charles, my little angel in heaven who would have been 12!

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post #14 of 44
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Originally Posted by Supermom35 View Post

I use the disposable bag with a size 2  or 3 tip. Depending on how big the cake is. The first time I did it I actually didn't measure anything and it came out perfect. The next time I did it I measured and did the whole nine and it didn't look as good. I think this technique requires you to be relaxed because this can easily get messed up. Try not to let the laces touch, the design is not creating anything in particular. It is just random lines that look like a design but really aren't. 

But which disposable bag? I'm interested in knowing both size and brand because I wonder if having a smaller bag is better than a bigger one and if there is a difference between how the bags handle to make it easier on the hands? And what kind of icing? Royal? ABC? SMBc? IMBC?
post #15 of 44
Well look at that. Supermom35 just disappeared and took her cornelli blue heart with her. icon_smile.gif
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