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Feeling a bit low about the whole cake decorating business

post #1 of 42
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Hello folks

I have been doing this now for nearly 8 months.  Initially when I started I had the prices down low, which upset all the local cake bakers, one lady said do you think you only get orders because you are cheap and not because you make good cakes??  I persevered as I didn't think I was good enough to put the prices up. 

Now comes the time where I need to make it worth my while.  I just can't justify the price for the amount of time I spend on the cakes,  sometimes it takes about 5 hours to decorate and the cake costs £30.

How much time do you spend on your cakes, what is a good price.

Please look at my cakes they are on my facebook page Sarah Jane Cake Boutique and let me know what you think and perhaps price one up so I can get a guideline for the new year.

Many thanks

SJ

post #2 of 42
Have you done a full cost analysis for your cakes? You need to factor in your hours, raw materials, rent, insurance, legal and accounting expenses, advertising/ promotion, equipment maintenance and purchase, plus consumables like cleaning items etc.

Only when you've done this can you work out what to price your cakes at. Unfortunately, nobody can tell you a number, as no one here knows your costs!

One point to mention, not only are you not doing yourself any favours by undercharging, you are doing a disservice to the industry.

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Life's too short to make cake pops.
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www.sweetperfectioncakes.blogspot.com.au/
www.facebook.com/sweetperfectioncakes (come visit sometime!)

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post #3 of 42

...and yeah, you might be getting lots of orders because you are so cheap. Is it really so strange that others were irritated that you were undercutting their pricing structure - especially those who have been in business awhile. They've done their research, their ten thousand hours, and it really grates when some newb comes along and charges so little that she's actually PAYING clients to take the cakes.

 

Her statement about cheap cakes should have been a huge wake-up call.


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Edited by Relznik - 1/3/13 at 6:21am
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post #5 of 42

does cake boss come in pounds?

one baker's never ever do is the next baker's 'i swear by this'
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one baker's never ever do is the next baker's 'i swear by this'
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post #6 of 42

You have a cake of mine on your website SJ please can you remove it immediatley or I will take legal action and then you will be feeling even lower!!!!!!!! I have not specified which is my cake as you will know  which cakes are not yours!!!!!!!!!!

 

Plus you obviously have little idea about the time taken to make a cake like mine as you would be out of pocket...

 

I think stealing other peoples cake to put on your website is not a good start and I dont understand how you have the audacity to make out that other peoples work is yours. 

post #7 of 42

Ooooops! Totally NOT cool! SJ, it looks like you've done some cute cakes -  why do you have other people's cakes on your website?  That's really a BAD way to do business. . . .

post #8 of 42
Thieving others' photographs is so not cool!!
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Ooooops! Totally NOT cool! SJ, it looks like you've done some cute cakes -  why do you have other people's cakes on your website?  That's really a BAD way to do business. . . .

Just about the number one uncool thing you can possibly do in this business. icon_sad.gif

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post #10 of 42
Old moderation policies used to be that a thread like this gets deleted. I however am in the "don't be a thief and remove the photo ASAP camp" so I'm leaving this up until I confer with the other mods on what they want to do going forward.

So my 2cents right now is don't be a thief- as long as you are you will get NO support from any professional community.
post #11 of 42
I feel having watched closely the artistic writ of cake decorators over the years. it has become evident that SJ has a cake on her website I have seen prior on another web site. This cannot be good for business. To cut throat fellow compatriots, who probably are no longer and create such a copy of another's work This is outrageous to copy another's work and so stupid, it could ruin one's business. I would suggest all copies of work are removed as this recoils far and wide, the world is so small and a bad name in business in these difficult times can ruin it! Let alone litigation of copying.
post #12 of 42
I have just read through preceding blogs as hadn't before. I must say I have to agree with the criticism of all those whom despise copying and being undercut by being cheap skates. It comes back to haunt a person. If one are having mental blanks on ideas for cake decorating and so copy and wish only to do cheap stuff get out of this high end of the most fabulous original art works I have seen, it is a very sour taste to give everyone especially at the start of a New Year. Ian a designer of considerable age and never inmy whole career would I have dreamt of copying, thus my career sailed along very beneficially.
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Wait a sec! Did she copy someone elses cake design or did she use someone elses photograph on her own website?
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700

My Cake that I made has been put on Sarah Janes Website, "MY PHOTOGRAPH" has been downloaded and pinched off my blog, www.allofmycakes.blogspot.com!!!! Go to my blog and see for yourself!

post #15 of 42

I am in total agreement with FromScatchSF (moderator). These threads will not be deleted immediately, as the message needs to get out that stealing other people's cake photos and pretending they are your own work is NOT COOL.

 

To the OP - the best thing for you to do is immediately remove ALL of the stolen photos from your website and FB page, and to apologise to those whose work you have misappropriated. It is very clear which photos are not your own work.

 

- Eve

Life's too short to make cake pops.
___________________________________
www.sweetperfection.com.au

www.sweetperfectioncakes.blogspot.com.au/
www.facebook.com/sweetperfectioncakes (come visit sometime!)

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Life's too short to make cake pops.
___________________________________
www.sweetperfection.com.au

www.sweetperfectioncakes.blogspot.com.au/
www.facebook.com/sweetperfectioncakes (come visit sometime!)

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