Addictive_desserts Posted 19 Sep 2012 , 11:15pm
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There's a new app for iPhones and iPads called tiered caker, anyone tried it yet and what were your opinions? Is it worth the $8.50?

Thanks

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Tracey2528 Posted 20 Sep 2012 , 1:54am
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I just looked it up! It seems really good, but I would also like to see what other people who have used it have to say about it before purchasing it!

jason_kraft Posted 20 Sep 2012 , 2:02am
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Looks interesting, I wouldn't be surprised if this was developed by someone on CC since I remember someone asking questions about developing an app not too long ago.

Screenshots here:
http://calculatedcakes.com/TieredCaker.html

Addictive_desserts Posted 20 Sep 2012 , 2:20am
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Thanks, yes, that was for designing the cakes I rembember, this one seems to be just the measurements side of things, but I'm not sure I want to spend that much just for that!

DeniseNH Posted 20 Sep 2012 , 2:21am
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Wow, looks great. Wish I had an iPhone. Most of us (who have been in business for a while) have blank cake dummies we use at our taste tests with the number of servings printed on the side of each, along with the size of the dummy. The only way I would use it would be to calculate odd serving tier sizes like for 5 - 7 - 9" cakes, but for newbies or for on the spot (away from the shop) calculations it would be idea................oh and for wedding shows. Great idea.

jenbug1 Posted 20 Sep 2012 , 3:33am
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Hi!

My husband is the developer of TieredCaker. He has been working on it for the past several months, and it was just released on the App Store yesterday.

In my opinion, the best feature of the app is that when you enter the number of servings that your client needs it will calculate all the possible tier combinations that will get you close to that number of servings. It will give you options from single to multiple tiered cakes, and it lays it out in a simple to use format. Before he made this app, I had to use multiple charts and try to calculate by hand what tier sizes I wanted to use to get to the correct amount of servings.

Another feature I love is the cutting guides. There are some pans that I couldn't even find cutting guides for on the internet, and in the app they are all in one place and I can print them or email them to my customers, which they really seem to appreciate.

If you have any questions about the app I would be more than happy to answer them.

FromScratchSF Posted 20 Sep 2012 , 3:41am
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Well, I just bought it so I'll let you know!

jenbug1 Posted 20 Sep 2012 , 3:53am
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FromScratchSF thanks!! Sorry to be off topic but I saw your cake today on thecakeblog..... Amazing work!!

mrsg1111 Posted 20 Sep 2012 , 3:55am
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wow! This would have been very helpful for me today as i was just trying to figure out a lot of this information. WIll this app be coming out for Android?

jenbug1 Posted 20 Sep 2012 , 4:02am

mrsg1111 - Sorry, there are no plans for an android version at this time.

FromScratchSF Posted 20 Sep 2012 , 4:15am

Thank you for your off-topic love icon_biggrin.gif

Now don't get mad, but... no. At this time, I do not feel this ap is worth $8. I probably should have read the description a little better, but I was expecting something that does more then basic math. There are several free online websites that calculate servings, I was really hoping this had much more to it for the price.

So please take this as constructive criticism in hopes that your husband will update this ap with features that busy cake pros would be handing over fist-fulls of cash for.

It's handy that this quickly suggests pan sizes, however it only suggests all the same size pan. I badly want something that will calculate mixed shape cakes - there are very few charts for those.

There should be a way to change what serving chart you want to use or at least be able to calculate based on volume (like you can with http://shinymetalobjects.net/cake/calculator/cakulator.cgi).

I need visual examples of what the cake would look like if I was using this at a consultation. They don't need to be fancy, a simple diagram would be helpful.

I'd never give someone a wedge cutting chart - it's antiquated and a mess for caterers. Straight line method is the only way to go. And if I could add my logo to brand it, the better.

I hope you take this as constructive! Again, I'd love for you to make a million dollars!

FromScratchSF Posted 20 Sep 2012 , 4:19am

PS - I do know how hard it is to design an ap and get it green-lit on Apple, so congratulations for being the 1st to do this, and I will be the 1st t pimp this ap to every and anyone if a few more features are added!

lorieleann Posted 20 Sep 2012 , 6:26am

looking at it for myself, but I really would also like the straight cut design. It would be too confusing to use the wedge/circle cut.

great job though thumbs_up.gif

jenbug1 Posted 20 Sep 2012 , 3:24pm

Thanks for the well wishes everyone!

FromScratchSF, thanks for the constructive criticism! We appreciate your honesty, and want the apps to work for everyone. Your input is valuable and will help us make TieredCaker a better app!

For some more experienced decorators, picking tier sizes may be a simple process, or just basic math, but I know from experience and from reading forums that many decorators have a tough time figuring out what tier sizes to use for their cakes.

I've seen some websites that offer some of the functionality that TieredCaker has, but they have a much more clunky interface, and are not nearly as easy or as quick to use as TieredCaker. I've also never seen another tool that will calculate the tier combinations for you based on a number of servings. This is just one of the features that I feel sets TieredCaker apart from information you can find online.

I talked to my husband about your suggestions for the app, and this is what he had to say:

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Thanks for the suggestion of having mixed cake shapes as an option in the Calculator. The Stacker in TieredCaker already supports the mixing of shapes, so hopefully that will help you in your planning for the time being. I hope to bring this functionality to the Calculator, as well, in a future update, and am working on ways to add support for it without sacrificing the usability and streamlined interface of the Calculator.

When I was planning TieredCaker, I was initially going to do volume-based calculations, but actually opted for two-dimensional serving sizes instead. The reason for this was that a cake cut into, for example, 1" x 2" servings will still be cut into the same number of servings regardless of the height of the cake. The approach I took instead, was to offer custom serving sizes as an option, so if you are serving taller cakes that should be cut into more servings you can simply use a smaller serving size.

I understand that not everyone uses the same style of cutting guide, and that the feature is not useful to everyone. I have, however, already received several compliments from users who do love the feature, even if some may consider the guides antiquated icon_smile.gif

Branding of all printable/emailable items will definitely come with a future update, and with other apps in the Calculated Cakes suite.

I also absolutely understand that visual examples of the cakes would be helpful to show to customers. I don't want to give away too many of my plans, but rest assured that future updates to TieredCaker, and the other future apps in the Calculated Cakes suite that will compliment TieredCaker, will cover the complete needs of any cake decorator.

Thanks everyone for the suggestions and well wishes!




Another thing I wanted to add is, as far as price goes, if you think about the cost of the supplies that you bought just for the last cake you made, many of which were one time use products, I don't really feel that $8 is too bad in comparison. Plus, when was the last time you bought any supplies for $8 that you would be able to use on every single cake you make in the future?

Thanks again for all the well wishes!

jason_kraft Posted 20 Sep 2012 , 5:00pm

Pricing mobile apps is tough since there are so many $0.99 and $1.99 mobile apps out there, but if you compare with desktop apps in the $50-150 range and look at the percentage of functionality offered by the $8 app it sounds about right.

Many mobile developers offer a free demo version of the app to try out, not sure if it would work with this type of app but it might be worth a thought.

BCo Posted 20 Sep 2012 , 5:56pm

I will be following this thread for sure! Such a great and needed app for cakers to have handy on the go!

DeliciousDesserts Posted 20 Sep 2012 , 11:38pm
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Thank you for your off-topic love icon_biggrin.gif


It's handy that this quickly suggests pan sizes, however it only suggests all the same size pan. I badly want something that will calculate mixed shape cakes - there are very few charts for those.




You may already have one, but I created a combo cake chart. Send me an email, & I'll send it to you. DeliciousDessertsSC@yahoo.com

Addictive_desserts Posted 21 Sep 2012 , 9:47pm

I guess I was expecting a little more for that price too.

owatto Posted 27 Dec 2012 , 9:33pm

AI have the app, and I love it!! Whenever im planning a cake i use it to make sure the number of tiers will work out with the number of serves I need. Its simple and effective, I can't wait for future updates they sound great!

costumeczar Posted 28 Dec 2012 , 12:23am

I did a review of this on my blog a while ago, but the test was the day that I forgot my price book at home during tasting appointments. I was able to use the app to price everything that day so it saved me a bunch of follow-up emails. That alone made it worth it to me!

Annabakescakes Posted 28 Dec 2012 , 1:15am

CAn you customize the serving charts? I don't use Wilton, I use an average between Wilton and Earlene. This would be useless to me if I can't, but really handy at the bridal show I have coming up, if I can. 

costumeczar Posted 28 Dec 2012 , 1:52am
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CAn you customize the serving charts? I don't use Wilton, I use an average between Wilton and Earlene. This would be useless to me if I can't, but really handy at the bridal show I have coming up, if I can. 

You can change the serving size...I use an average too. Let me look...Yes, there's a custom serving size and you can choose a range of sizes from 0.25 inches to 8 inches width and depth. So you could adjust for 6" tall cakes too if you wanted to do that.

Annabakescakes Posted 28 Dec 2012 , 2:03am
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You can change the serving size...I use an average too. Let me look...Yes, there's a custom serving size and you can choose a range of sizes from 0.25 inches to 8 inches width and depth. So you could adjust for 6" tall cakes too if you wanted to do that.

Hmmm, I'm not sure the exact size my slices are, can I just type in 6" serves 10, 8" serves 20, 9" serves 26, and so on? 

costumeczar Posted 28 Dec 2012 , 4:12am

You can go into the stacking feature and choose one tier, then mess with the serving size in the custom serving section until it gets to the serving count you estimate for that tier. (It makes sense if you see it.) Once you do that you can figure out how big the servings you're using are, and estimate from there.

sarzoemom Posted 28 Dec 2012 , 4:26am

AI love it for the reasons that costumeczar said. I can give someone a rough quote anytime, anywhere. Good work.

Evoir Posted 28 Dec 2012 , 4:29am

I'd like to thank the app developers for creating this app!

 

Yes, its pricier than many 99c and 1.99 apps, but this app is targeting a small population. Its not like it will sell like Angry Birds, LOL.

 

Write is off as a business expense, y'all! But seriously, you are complaining about spending $8?? I would have saved that in my time alone after using it for three cake quotes. Seriously, I love not having to calculate servings in various tier orientations. This to me is invaluable - I sit there with clients and give them options for their cake tiers, as we discuss their cake. I use it to work up my basic prices when writing up my quotes. I have it on my iPhone and my iPad so its handy wherever I am working or if I'm on the road and someone calls.

 

If I could suggest future features:

  • maybe the function of being able to save three fully tiered cake options? So you do not have to cancel each calculation result before doing another one? That way you can have a three-way comparo or something.
  • I would like to be able to calculate a whole cake using different height tiers as well. Sometimes there is a 2" tall tier plus a 6" tall and two 4" tall tiers...currently I would need to work out and write down each result and then add it up manually. Perhaps an easier way to manage this would be to add in several more 'custom' cake portion sizes where the sizes could be left in a list so I wouldn't have to manually type in another size each time I need to calculate an odd height tier (and therefore odd portion size)? And if you could then 'save' this calculated tier, you could build a truly custom cake in the app, by adding it to other completed tiers.

 

I hope this all makes sense.  Thanks again for the app - I wish you lots of success!

 

Oh, and also wanted to add my voice to the straight line method of cutting and serving cake tiers. Please consider this in the app, as its the standard method of cutting and serving round tiers here as well.

costumeczar Posted 28 Dec 2012 , 12:52pm
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Write is off as a business expense, y'all! But seriously, you are complaining about spending $8?? I would have saved that in my time alone after using it for three cake quotes.

Yes! I don't understand why $8 is such an issue for something that's such a time saver in the long run. And like I said, it saved my butt from having to go home and calculate everything twice one day.

VanillaSky Posted 28 Dec 2012 , 10:17pm

AIt looks like the caked tierer app is on sale for $5.99 for anyone who is interested. The sale lasts until 12/31.

kaat Posted 17 Jan 2013 , 1:03pm

AJenbug1: I hope you will reconsider making an android version! I would love to be able to use this app on my tablet!

ReezieCakes Posted 30 Jan 2013 , 4:06am

AI'm about to try your app, I'm an at home decorator and will get lots of use, I'm sure. Adding a feature to design the cake would be spectacular! Good luck with the updates, I'm sure you have a number of eager decorators waiting :)

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