AI am thoroughly confused now. Are we saying that there is no "right" or "wrong" way to price cakes..or that there's no "right" business practices or "wrong" business practice?
A bit of plagiarism going on here. (Changing a few words does not absolve the plagiarist). Neither article is dated so we don't know the original author.
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I am thoroughly confused now. Are we saying that there is no "right" or "wrong" way to price cakes..or that there's no "right" business practices or "wrong" business practice?
I can safely say that the wrong way to price cakes is anything formulaic that ignores your specific situation, like saying multiply the cost of your ingredients by three for everything.
And there are plenty of wrong business practices...
People just need to stop being so fast to be offended when someone disagrees with what they want to do.
AThank you, those of you who said we can disagree and thats its okay. I meant if you read my post and disagreed, thats fine it doesnt matter to me, but dont direct comments to me to tell me im wrong. I read her comment before posting mine and though I dont do it that way, I didnt feel the need to say that. I came here thinking it was constructive and about learning. Im sure the op on this thread isnt benefitting from this.
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A bit of plagiarism going on here. (Changing a few words does not absolve the plagiarist). Neither article is dated so we don't know the original author.
[URL=http://www.thepartyworks.com/your-cake-prices-a-949.html]http://www.thepartyworks.com/your-cake-prices-a-949.html[/URL] [URL=http://thesugarlane.com/pricing-your-cakes-as-a-home-baker/]http://thesugarlane.com/pricing-your-cakes-as-a-home-baker/[/URL]
No kidding! Who wrote what?
Oh really, guess someone better call the plagiarism authorities,lol.
Here are some more basically saying the same thing.
"This is one of the most frequently asked questions by cake decorators when they begin to sell their cakes. The simple but frustrating answer is that no one can tell you how much you should charge."
http://www.cakeboss.com/Cake-Stuff/Articles/How-Much-Should-I-Charge
"This is a tricky topic, with many factors to consider."
http://www.craftsy.com/blog/2013/09/pricing-cakes-like-a-pro/
"When you start charging people who have traditionally received your services for free, some will accept it, some will be indignant, and some – believe it or not – will laugh at you."
"This is one of the most difficult parts of starting a cake decorating business. You need to arrive at a point where you charge enough to make a profit and remain viable, but not so much that you price yourself off the market. In a market economy, a product is only worth what people are prepared to pay for it."
"No one can tell you how much to charge for a decorated cake."
http://ivori.hubpages.com/hub/How-to-Set-Prices-for-Decorated-Cakes
Plagiarism is against the law. Any professional would know that.
I never said it wasnt, you brought it up MimiFix not me. Just trying to show that there is no one set plan or method that works for everyone, the variables are different that's all. No tea, no shade 
What? What, what, what? You ridiculed plagiarism by using a variation of the classic taunt, "call the plagiarism authorities." Then you redirected by saying I brought it up. Nice play.
I did not write the articles, You brought it to my attention that one might have plagiarized the other or vice verse. I just searched "How to price your cake" and picked quotes out of the top searches that said basically the same thing, "No one can tell you how much to charge for your cakes". I don't know who to call when someone uses plagiarism on the internet. You saw the similarities so be all means, turn them in.
I'm not redirecting anything. Why are you trying to make this into something that it is clearly not my intention?
"A bit of plagiarism going on here. (Changing a few words does not absolve the plagiarist). Neither article is dated so we don't know the original author."
http://www.thepartyworks.com/your-cake-prices-a-949.html
http://thesugarlane.com/pricing-your-cakes-as-a-home-baker/
Why are you trying to make this into something that it is clearly not my intention?
Honestly, enga, I often don't understand your intentions, but I usually choose not to post and simply move on. Yes, I know you didn't write the articles and only posted links, but you ridiculed plagiarism which in my line of work is never funny. If you want to discuss this further, we should use PM.
I did not mean to ridicule plagiarism, I thought it was funny that I didn't notice it in the articles, (laughing at my own mistake). I mean, I Googled 2 articles that were plagiarizing each other 
, which is kind of embarrassing when you are trying to prove a point. Forgive me for laughing at myself and at you for pointing that out.
I know how serious plagiarism is, I almost got kicked out of college because my English 201 instructor thought I plagiarized my essay. She felt that someone of my caliber would never be able to create a body of work like the one that I turned in. It was in litigation for awhile. But It was my work and I had physical proof as to what I was so passionately writing about. Even though the allegations were dropped, it didn't take away the seriousness of the charges that plagiarism entails.
So no MimmiFix, I don't think plagiarism is funny at all, however, (IMHO), being able to laugh at your own mistakes is. I had no idea that "call the plagiarism authorities" was a classic taunt and I'm sorry that you thought that I said it out of malice because it was truly not my intentions.
I have been called "a walking contradiction" more than once , if that makes you feel any better about understanding me, lol. I mean well for the most part. I'm not the kind of person who looks to start arguments, it's just that most of my posts are kind of controversial to some people. And that in itself starts arguments.
You and I come from completely different walks of life and may never understand or agree with one another but like MBAlaska said, we should be able to "agree to disagree".
Thanks 
We all have opinions to share on this site, cakelove2105 thanked sugarpuppet for hers "Hey ! thanks a lot Sugarpuppet :-) Very Helpful comment :-D" as well as howsweet's "Thank you both for the comments."
You cant make people take your advice over someone else's because you feel it is correct and theirs isn't. THERE IS NO CORRECT ANSWER, everyone's variables are different PEOPLE!
“There is no one formula to use when pricing your cakes. Every area is different. However, as a cake baker, you must charge what you're worth. Regardless of your price, if you bake a great tasting cake and love your customers, they'll become raving fans and beg for more.”
http://www.thepartyworks.com/your-cake-prices-a-949.html
“ No one can tell you exactly how much to charge for a cake. I don’t know your expertise or your clientele. I only know mine and what I can charge here.”
http://www.earlenescakes.com/business09.htm
Pricing your Cakes as a Home Baker
“The most important thing to remember when pricing your cakes is that no one else can bake a cake like you do. Therefore, what you charge is totally independent of what other bakers are charging. However, it is important to research what is going on in the market with others within the cake world. This information will help you set the best value for your cakes and the time that you put into making them………”
http://thesugarlane.com/pricing-your-cakes-as-a-home-baker/
Plagiarism or not, these are not appropriate sources for business information. All of these are from sites where there is a vested interest in keeping the customers happy. If a person has to copy and paste information, that's a hint that it's not their area of expertise. But just because they copied something, doesn't mean they found any correct information.
Before someone twists my words - I'm not saying that everything on these sites is wrong, just that they are not proper sources to base your livelihood on.
A bit of plagiarism going on here. (Changing a few words does not absolve the plagiarist). Neither article is dated so we don't know the original author.
Like I said, if they knew they were the source of the info, they'd just write it down.
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Oh really, guess someone better call the plagiarism authorities,lol.
Here are some more basically saying the same thing.
"This is one of the most frequently asked questions by cake decorators when they begin to sell their cakes. The simple but frustrating answer is that no one can tell you how much you should charge."
http://www.cakeboss.com/Cake-Stuff/Articles/How-Much-Should-I-Charge
"This is a tricky topic, with many factors to consider."
http://www.craftsy.com/blog/2013/09/pricing-cakes-like-a-pro/
"When you start charging people who have traditionally received your services for free, some will accept it, some will be indignant, and some – believe it or not – will laugh at you."
"This is one of the most difficult parts of starting a cake decorating business. You need to arrive at a point where you charge enough to make a profit and remain viable, but not so much that you price yourself off the market. In a market economy, a product is only worth what people are prepared to pay for it."
"No one can tell you how much to charge for a decorated cake."
http://ivori.hubpages.com/hub/How-to-Set-Prices-for-Decorated-Cakes
Again, improper sources. Just because you find something widely circulated on the internet, doesn't mean it's true.
Kelley Masters a smart person and I respect her. I read this updated version of her pricing issues and it's very good, but you need to understand that she doesn't want to be in the position of telling people to how to run their business. That's not why she has that information up there.
Craftsy also is not in the business of educating people about business.
No, this just isn't true. Not in the way people are going to read and understand this. There are good business practices and bad ones. Of course there are different variables, but that doesn't change the basic principals.
Good way to go around in circles all day long.
Thank you, those of you who said we can disagree and thats its okay. I meant if you read my post and disagreed, thats fine it doesnt matter to me, but dont direct comments to me to tell me im wrong. I read her comment before posting mine and though I dont do it that way, I didnt feel the need to say that. I came here thinking it was constructive and about learning. Im sure the op on this thread isnt benefitting from this.
Seriously? Ok, from now on we will know that no one can tell you you're wrong. Good to know.
This is becoming as much of a buzz phrase in the caking world as the word bullying is in general. Of course someone can tell you how much to charge for a cake. You may not have access to that person, but in most cases that person exists.
As far as I can tell, it's just a nicety, like please and thank you. Or a disclaimer in case someone gives you the wrong information or doesn't have all the details.
No they cant. We don't all live in the same place, making the same cake, paying the same cost for supplies with the same set of skills, and charging the same price.
You have a serious problem every time someone does not take your advice you or they disagree with you.
YOU CANT MAKE PEOPLE TAKE YOUR ADVICE NOR CAN YOU MAKE THEM AGREE WITH YOU
This is ridiculous, drops mic and exits stage right.............
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No [B]they[/B] cant. We don't all live in the same place, making the same cake, paying the same cost for supplies with the same set of skills, and charging the same price.
[B]Then why did you practically demand that I post how I price my cakes the other day? I post links to threads that already exist here where people have already explained it, that is more helpful.[/B]
YOU CANT MAKE PEOPLE TAKE YOUR ADVICE NOR CAN YOU MAKE THEM AGREE WITH YOU. [B]Time to reference bullies again. Hasn't been brought up in at least five minutes[/B]
This is ridiculous, drops mic and exits stage right.............
AThe numbers may be a bit different but the [B]formula[/B] is the same. Someone may be pricing their cakes just plain wrong. I mean, am I missing something? Sometimes it's just wrong
Then why did you practically demand that I post how I price my cakes the other day? I post links to threads that already exist here where people have already explained it, that is more helpful.
I did not demand anything of you AZ, I asked if you and other members would be willing to offer help people that don't understand pricing. We could always post a link to the thread for reference.
So you tell people to Google "how to price cakes" only to pick out threads from this site........Hmmmmmm, okay.
So everyone else can list outside links to be helpful but I cant...........Okay.
No, you keep the mic so you can share your sheer awesomeness, I'm sure it will be more appreciated by everyone 
No I didn't. It was probably conceived that way but it was not my intention to do so. I asked members, I even said please. Demand, no. How could I demand anything of you AZ?
Okay AZ. No, you can go rounds by yourself. It takes 2 to argue and I will C myself out of this one. You have the floor Madame.
Somebody zero in and pan cameras stage center and give her ample spotlight, the show is about to begin........ Testing, testing one two three......yep, mic is working........You're on in 5-4-3-2-1 (applause)
AI'd rather hear good advice from AZ any day, than bad advice from people who do not own a business.
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I'd rather hear good advice from AZ any day, than bad advice from people who do not own a business.
Basically.
I don't even remember why I came on here this morning, but I'm glad to learn that I can't make people take good advice. I never knew that before this thread.
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This is becoming as much of a buzz phrase in the caking world as the word bullying is in general. Of course someone can tell you how much to charge for a cake. You may not have access to that person, but in most cases that person exists.
As far as I can tell, it's just a nicety, like please and thank you. Or a disclaimer in case someone gives you the wrong information or doesn't have all the details.
You're right, and it's also a load of crap directed at people who don't want to do the homework to figure out their real costs, hours involved in each cake, and wage per hour. That way they can price things haphazardly and randomly then say "but nobody can tell me how to price things, so I'm right even though I don't know how much I'm actually making per cake. Because math is hard and makes my brain hurt wah wah wah."
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