Article: Why Groupon Is Poised For Collapse

Business By jason_kraft Updated 29 Jun 2011 , 10:18pm by KoryAK

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FromScratchSF Posted 28 Jun 2011 , 8:24pm
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Restaurants and bakeries typically have net profit margins in the 5-10% range. A 20% net profit margin would be considered excellent.

A 45% gross margin is certainly feasible, but the gross margin ignores non-COGS operating expense.




Whew, I was feeling like I was doing my math wrong icon_biggrin.gif

Where does this statistic come from? Do you have a website or research you could point to? I'm always trying to make sure I'm structured okie dokie and have not found anything (so far) that says this.

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jason_kraft Posted 28 Jun 2011 , 8:34pm
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If you want to see detailed info you can look at analysis reports for the industry (you have to pay for them though):
http://valuationresources.com/Reports/SIC5461RetailBakeries.htm

A number of different numbers for average net profit in the restaurant industry in general are thrown around, but all are between 5 and 8% (one example below). Margins for bakeries would skew slightly higher than restaurants due to lower costs for ingredients and payroll, the second link shows an 18% net margin for a cupcake business.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb5248/is_3_25/ai_n29406237/
http://boss.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/25/are-cupcakes-a-viable-business/

Home-based bakers are a different story...if priced correctly a home-based baker could probably pull off a (warning: SWAG) 25-30% net profit margin, but the average would likely be pulled down since so many home-based bakeries ignore labor and overhead costs and thus operate at 0% or negative net margins.

Just found this source from 2009 research on full-line bakeries from Modern Baking, 6% average net margin:
http://modern-baking.com/retail_baking/retail-bakers-upbeat-0609/index3.html

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cakesbycathy Posted 28 Jun 2011 , 9:10pm
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I am the type of Groupon user that businesses don't want, and because I know plenty of people like me, I wouldn't use Groupon for my business.

I buy a Groupon for items or places that I can't normally afford, or normally think are too expensive, or can't justify in my budget unless it's a really great deal. I've bought bouncy place admissions (normally too much $$ for both kids), massages (that I would never ever never ever pay full price for), restaurant deals (at places we can't normally afford), etc. And I have never gone back to those places even if I liked them because I can't/won't pay full price there.




This is exactly the kind of consumer I am as well.

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KoryAK Posted 29 Jun 2011 , 4:07am
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My 55% cost number includes payroll, food and dry goods costs, rent, utilities, and credit card processing costs.

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KoryAK Posted 29 Jun 2011 , 10:18pm
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What? hahahhah! BOY those spammers are really getting involved! Just think what they could do putting that towards real work!

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