I haven't had that much experience with Fondarific, but it is absolutely giving me fits!
I made loops for a loop bow 2 days ago made of 1/2 Fondarific & 1/2 Wilton with tylose added in. The loops felt hard enough to assemble the bow, but when I got it all put together, the loops started caving under the pressure. I've stuffed some tissue to give it more support, but I really don't think that the loops will dry hard.
I usually use Wilton fondant with tylose & give it the same drying time without issues. I'm probably going to have to make the bow again using Wilton.
Has anyone else had issues with making decor with Fondarific? It tastes really great, but I beginning to think it's much too soft.![]()
my good friend called yesterday because she was trying to paint Fondarific with food coloring and it just wouldn't work. Like painting on plastic... wonder what the problem is. I like the taste and only use it to cover cookies or cakes. I use cheap stuff for accents. Sorry you are having such a tough time. The bow is still really pretty!
I used fondariffic/duff fondant 50/50 with wilton gumpaste to make a loopy bow and it worked pretty well. No sagging or smooshing.
Thanks so much for the compliment. I think that I'll have to do it over though.
I bought Fondarific for the 1st time last month for a cake, and had a lot of problems with it sticking even rolling it on a silicone mat and using powered sugar. I contacted the company and they sent me some more for free to try out.
I usually use Wilton for non-edible stuff, but was lazy and didn't want to color 2 sets of fondant (there will be other edible decor in the same colors).
I posted at length about this last week.
Fondarific/Duff's Fondant use ingredients that are more like candy melts than basic fondant. Because of this much larger amount of fats/oil, it will NOT take tylose, cmc, or gum tex the same way. It is actually designed NOT to get hard. Adding more gum powders is just wasting them.
Rae
Rae, I was wondering if that was the case. I love fondarific but it is difficult to make any kind of three dimensional figure with. It just collapses onto itself and gets dumpy looking. I have had pretty good luck mixing it 50/50 with wilton gumpaste though. I made a bow (not loopy) with that mix and it hardened up nicely. I let it dry for about three or four days. Here's the link.
http://cakecentral.com/modules.php?name=gallery&file=displayimage&pid=1596271&sub=1596275
Pretty bow!
Yeah, given that an all Wilton gum paste bow would be rock hard in less than 8 hrs., you can see how the fats impact drying time.
I'd also be concerned that in heat, the fats could separate and even the gum paste wouldn't hold something together.
I can see the coverning benefits, but, IMHO, they should advise people to not try to make dimensional items.
Rae
Fondarific is my absolute favorite fondant. That being said, it really doesn't hold up well in our summers in AR. So I have to change in this weather. Also, I am making roses and it took 4 days - but they finally harden, but only after mixing 50/50 with gumpaste and tylose powder.
I also made a cake last wk with a simple fondant ribbon border made from Fondarific. I had some problems with it stretching & distorting.
I should have gotten a clue about it then, but thought it would be fine mixed with the Wilton & tylose.
I don't think that I will be buying it that often, unless I have a special request for it. It's not that useful to me if I can only cover the cake with it.
I agree they should have a disclaimer that it cannot be used for decor.
I am new to all of this so have what may be a stupid question - what is tylose and can I get it at Michaels or A C Moore? Is it a powder, a liquid - does it go by any other name? Thanks.
It comes in a powder form, and is added to fondant to make it more like gumpaste -stiff, and better and faster drying power. Sharon Zambito of SugarShack uses it in her DVD's for bows, ribbons, and other details. Lots of decorators prefer it because you can use the fondant to cover the cake, then do the details with the tylose-added fondant so the colors match vs coloring fondant and gumpaste separately. HTH ![]()
I also made a cake last wk with a simple fondant ribbon border made from Fondarific. I had some problems with it stretching & distorting.
I should have gotten a clue about it then, but thought it would be fine mixed with the Wilton & tylose.
I don't think that I will be buying it that often, unless I have a special request for it. It's not that useful to me if I can only cover the cake with it.
I agree they should have a disclaimer that it cannot be used for decor.
I use it all the time for fondant ribbons. It does want to stretch though so I usually roll out the fondant then let it sit for a time while I do something else. Then I cut the ribbon out then let that sit while I do something else. I was worried about using for the most recent cake I did. It had black stripes and black fondant (which black fondarific seems to be stretchier than white for some reason) ribbons on a white cake and any distortion would have been noticable but it worked out well letting them dry a little before applying them. Now that I think about it, I have used it for figures with some success. I did these strawberry shortcake figures with 100% fondarific (don't know what I was thinking, but oh well). But now I mix it with gumpaste for better results.
http://cakecentral.com/modules.php?name=gallery&file=displayimage&pid=1553694
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