dkelly said: Selling food without a license is against the law and if somebody's not following proper food safe practices they could potentially make people who consume their food very sick.

indydebi said: This kind of logic escapes me..... the logic that "well, having a license doesn't mean it's clean!"

If everyone who says this really believes that, then I expect you all to line up at your local legislator's office and demand the health dept be repealed and done away with. If having them in place is useless, then let's just do away with them.

Let's just let ALL food establishments do whatever they want with no rules and no guidelines, just whatever the person in charge "thinks" is common sense and we can all go by his or her own personal standard of clean.

All in favor, raise their hands .......


Are you saying that every single establishment that has a license and insurance had never made anyone sick?

It seems like every few months there is a food safety recall on some product made in a HD inspected facility with license and all. To say that just because you have a licensed kitchen is a foolproof way of not making someone sick is not very logical. Somehow that license makes a barrier for any viruses or bacteria lol.

I remember the green onions recall, peanut butter (here in GA big news), more recently the cookie dough from Nestle, etc., etc., etc. Many sick people and also some have died because they thought it was ok to eat a food product made in a licensed and inspected facility.

Unfortunately, some food establishments DO whatever they want and sometimes is too late before they get caught or they just get a warning or a ticket and keep operating. The HD can not be everywhere everyday.

I saw on the news a chinese restaurant where the employee was mixing the salads with his feet barefoot on the floor, disgusting. Guess what? They had a license for many years and it wasn't the HD who caught them, it was another employee who taped the whole thing.

After I read the article, I really didn't care one way or the other if she was selling cakes to her friends and family from her unlicensed kitchen but why wasn't the fiancee and grown up sons working to help her pay their loan. Was she the only one with an income in that house? I do hope someone offers her a kitchen space so that she can sell her cakes to many more customers.

I do understand some of you would never break the law, no way no how, but throughout history, Thank God for those who have, and some laws were change.

For all of you in NJ complaining about how can someone make cakes from her unlicensed kitchen and be on t.v., maybe is a good time with the publicity to write to your legislators and demand a change in the law so that all of you can make and sell cakes from your kitchens.

I am not saying people shouldn't be licensed/insured, but having a licensed/insured kitchen does not provide 100% safety to consumers.
Maybe all of you that are so against this, can e-mail her and offer some advise on how to become legal or better yet a link to CC . JMHO.

This thread hasn't been locked yet but the buttercream one has? Huh?

i just tried to read like 5 pages real quick but from what i understand she has a trademark on the name of her cakes? like doesnt that cost $$$$$. and you know what i do understand that there are people selling cakes without the proper paper work and weather or not there doing things by the book it still is illegal. and i do agree that its no better then selling sex! but i will say this if your selling sex your only putting 2 people at risk (initially) but making a cake in a partially finished house with dust and dirt from construction your involving meny people who eat the cakes unknowingly

Why lock it? What's the harm? Looks like lively conversation amongst a lot of people with differing opinions. Sheesh! I'm not even a participant, but then again, my feathers aren't ruffled easily, and opposing viewpoints are always a thing to be considered. But just not in a Socialist society.....oops, I did it.

I agree with OfficerMorgan. Good points

Why the demand to lock this?

Can't a group of people have a discussion and not agree (in a civil manner)?
It's a debate with opposing points of view and there is nothing wrong with that.

I thought the newspaper article that was linked here said that this was part of a special program to help people who are in danger of foreclosure. Possibly she is exempt from the HD requirements through this program. Maybe I misunderstood what I read, though. The article actually said "Logan decided to sell the cakes to help make a $2600 mortgage payment as part of a new federal program intended to help families avoid losing their homes".

You can't sell out of your home in Nebraska either unless it's a separate kitchen. You can, however for $30.00 each week, bake out of your home and sell at the Farmer's Market! I don't quite get that. Maybe that would be a choice for her but I don't know what the Farmer's Market rules in NJ are.
I'm glad to see she's making an effort to pay her mortgage she's just going about it the wrong way.

I am in a little bit of shock after being away from the computer for a few hours. As I said earlier and other fellow NJ cake decorators have said, we are trying to work with NJ government to be able to legally sell our products out of our homes. This lady needed to make her mortgage payment and is doing something we all would love to do but can not. Why should she be able to slip through the system or get away with it because she got stuck in a crummy situation?

My dad just told me that I should sell "College Loan Cupcakes", ya think anyone would be mad at me? Just kidding, I would not think of it. But it does have a nice ring to it.

Growing and selling is lower cost out of pocket too... I mean... I'm just saying...

This thread has gone in some funny directions... First Saigon cinnamon is sold at Costco for like $5 for a huge container, it's not an extremely special ingredient....

Second, I really hope she does end up making enough money, because I don't think she will (based on her ingredients and what she is charging), which is unfortunate. I would be so bummed if I thought I had a brilliant idea to save my home and worked my tail off night and day and in the end made like $500, ya know?

i was told about a older lady told my husband how they fared during the great depression. She told him people made it by begging borrowing and stealing. Whille i don't condone stealing,it looks like people are so desperate because of the economy , they are doing any and every thing to stay afloat. I remember when the school tax levy passed in trotwood. When my taxes went up , my mortgage payment went up. Now mind you, the house we purchased was a fixer upper and was purchased for 38,500. so are payments went way up to 710.00 amonth. We refinanced so we can make the payments. Thanks God we haven't lost our home. I feel for the lady. Maybe that is all she is experienced in. So if she is caught i hope maybe some one can hire her to work in a bakery so she can make her mortgage payments. My question to all: If you were backed up in a corner financially to the point of loosing all , what will You do? It takes a lot of faith and integrity not to do anything illegal.

i was told about a older lady told my husband how they fared during the great depression. She told him people made it by begging borrowing and stealing. Whille i don't condone stealing,it looks like people are so desperate because of the economy , they are doing any and every thing to stay afloat. I remember when the school tax levy passed in trotwood. When my taxes went up , my mortgage payment went up. Now mind you, the house we purchased was a fixer upper and was purchased for 38,500. so are payments went way up to 710.00 amonth. We refinanced so we can make the payments. Thanks God we haven't lost our home. I feel for the lady. Maybe that is all she is experienced in. So if she is caught i hope maybe some one can hire her to work in a bakery so she can make her mortgage payments. My question to all: If you were backed up in a corner financially to the point of loosing all , what will You do? It takes a lot of faith and integrity not to do anything illegal.

What's mind boggling about all these recent foreclosures is............Wasn't Washington's "Bank Bailout Plan" supposed to free up money so that these banks could start loaning again? Wouldn't that have included refinancing people in this woman's situation?

I for one would like to know what those BILLIONS of dollars have been used for...............just exactly WHO IS being helped? It sure doesn't seem like it's helping the average working person.

Same old, same old, business as usual in Washington........meanwhile thousands of Americans continue to lose their jobs and their homes....