Would You Refuse This Order? A Bit Controversial
Lounge By FeGe_Cakes Updated 21 Jan 2009 , 8:31pm by mommyle
One sharp contrast, other than demographics, is that the people who live in the ghettos now have all the means and rights to clean up their areas and keep them that way, but choose not to. The Jews didn't have this.
Rights, sure. Means? Not necessarily. There are way more issues going on there. But that's a totally different topic and beside the point here. I get what you're trying to say.
Merissa, the sad thing is that they don't see it as representing "evil" as the majority of us do. The "father" told us to stop "living in the past." 
Rights, sure. Means? Not necessarily. There are way more issues going on there. But that's a totally different topic and beside the point here. I get what you're trying to say.
Oh yes, definitely more issues. I was trying to keep the point basic, but it's difficult with this topic.
The more and more I think of it, the more I don't think I would have made this cake. The poor kids. I wish there were laws against naming your kids with certain names or phrases.
I'm somewhat torn about whether or not I would make this cake. On the one hand I find it personally offensive, but on the other it's for a child who has no power over what his name is.
I find the fact that Wal-Mart made the cake to be incredibly ironic.
At the risk of being unpopular, I have to point out what a slippery slope it is to start picking and choosing who should and shouldn't procreate.
Why is it ironic that walmart made the cake?
They censor all their CD's. Some they refuse to even carry and sell because the language in the music is bad.
They only carry the version of CD's that were remade with "clean lyrics" and have them titled as such.
I also heard from a couple sources that the father did indeed ask for "the symbol" on the cake. WalMart didn't put it on there but did indeed do the full name.
I am now taking this story and it's after stories with a grain of salt because they way it's picking up speed with the media the story will grow and have little comments twisted into the story that aren't true and never took place. Before we know it the fish was this big (puts hands about 5 inches apart) and before this story looses steam it's going to be THIS BIG (opens arms wide).
This story was on the front page of msn.com this morning. Apparently the attention seeking parents didn't seem to think that most of the attention would be negative. They sound like they are trying to backpeddle quite a bit. How long before someone really tries to damage their property (or God-forbid them or their kids) do ya think?
Oh, I wouldn't write the kid's full name either. I would never do anything that I am not comfortable with. That's my right as a business owner. I believe that with freedom of speech comes responsibility. I tell my kids their right to do what they want ends once it starts affecting other people negatively. I think the same principle can be applied on a bigger social scale. 
On the topic of unusual names, I know someone who was named Bajaina. 
Pronounced in a way that rhymes with the v-word for a womanly body part. She immigrated to the US in her junior year of High School. Boy oh boy! She said she got so much C#@p over that name she decided to change her name to....."Jaina" Still rhymes with v------a
Hmmmm.... 
I often wonder why she didn't change it to a name that sounds nowhere near the v-word. People still comment about the similarity. It must be hard to give up such an integral part of your identity.
Exactly, Carolyn. 
@ Chutzpah! That's why I avoid that place like the plague. The last time I was at Wal-Mart I saw a rather large man wearing a much too small t-shirt that read, "strippers love my pole". 
Wal*Mart is not my favorite choice of store but I can get my son's jeans there for $7 a pair. He is growing like a weed so I can get a weeks worth of jeans for a minor fortune instead of a large one for a large fortune any where else in town.
Wal*Mart is not my favorite choice of store but I can get my son's jeans there for $7 a pair. He is growing like a weed so I can get a weeks worth of jeans for a minor fortune instead of a large one for a large fortune any where else in town.
I'll never forget this. I was at Wal-Mart buying my boy some dress pants which I found on a sale rack and this lady was there that our kids were on the same sports team.
She made it a point to explain that she was just buying play clothes for her boys that they buy all their real jeans from the Gap. Ooo ouch ouch ouch I felt semi-horrified and sorry for her. I said I was buying an Easter outfit from the sale rack.
Check out this article about a supermarket that refused to personalize a child's cake.
http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/today/index.ssf/2008/12/holland_township_family_angry.html
I would have done what they suggested..either just put the first child's first name in or offered to allow the parents to fill it in later.
I think the parents are on the border of child abuse, to be honest with you. Can you image what this child will go through in life? Imagine applying for a job with that kind of name? Or college? Or even a driver's license?
Isn't it as free a country for the store as it is for the customer?
No, when you open a retail store you agree to sell to any legitmate customer that walks in the store. You may not like it, but that's the law.
(And, thank God, that child can legally change his name if he so choses.)
Isn't it as free a country for the store as it is for the customer?
No, when you open a retail store you agree to sell to any legitmate customer that walks in the store. You may not like it, but that's the law.
(And, thank God, that child can legally change his name if he so choses.)
Really? Which law is that? The store has less freedom than the individual?
Stores have the right to refuse service to anyone. That's a basic rule. If the store doesn't want people with open-toed shoes in their store for safety concerns, they have the right to tell those people to put on a proper pair of shoes or leave.
If a store offered to only print a child's first name on the cake, but the parents insisted on the full name, they can refuse service. There's nothing in the law that says they have to provide this service.
Wal*Mart is not my favorite choice of store but I can get my son's jeans there for $7 a pair. He is growing like a weed so I can get a weeks worth of jeans for a minor fortune instead of a large one for a large fortune any where else in town.
I'll never forget this. I was at Wal-Mart buying my boy some dress pants which I found on a sale rack and this lady was there that our kids were on the same sports team.
She made it a point to explain that she was just buying play clothes for her boys that they buy all their real jeans from the Gap. Ooo ouch ouch ouch I felt semi-horrified and sorry for her. I said I was buying an Easter outfit from the sale rack.
My mother loathes Wal-Mart and all but refuses to shop there unless totally necessary.
However she was going on and on about her "nice and expensive" winter scarf when I asked to borrow one, turns out its the scarf I bought (and loaned her)on the Wal-Mart clearance rack last year for 5$!
Not only is she wearing a Wal-Mart cheap clearance scarf but she has mistaken it for a "nice and expensive" one.
I don't have the heart to tell her she wearing Wal-Mart stuff, she would be mortified!
If that's the case why do so many businesses state they have the right to refuse service?
No shirt, no shoes, no sense (in this case), no service. 
And ultimately the store did refuse. I don't know which law it is that they would be breaking.
If the parent's could prove that the store did write HB AH to another somebody named AH then that would be discrimination. But of course it's not a common name. So proving that might prove difficult.
If that's the case why do so many businesses state they have the right to refuse service?
I believe a business can refuse service, but can't openly discriminate. For instance, the store couldn't say, "We won't make this cake because you're a white supremist", but they can say "We are too booked up to make this cake" and not really be booked up.
Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how it works if you're a landlord and you're weeding out probable tenants.
My husband calls it "euphamistic discrimination".
I do shop at walmart, I didn't mean to come across sounding snooty.
What I meant to say was "why pay $20 for the same jeans I can get them at Walmart for $7. " They won't last any longer at Old Navy or Sears then they do if bought from Wal*Mart.
It's just that I don't go out of my way to shop there. If I'm there I'll buy what is on my list.
I am actually going to buy some fabric there today as well as a few gifts that I can get there cheaper right now.
I do shop at walmart, I didn't mean to come across sounding snooty.
I don't think it's snooty at all. A lot of people don't like Wal-Mart. It doesn't make them snobs, it just means that they prefer Target!
But seriously, it's a personal choice. I don't see why anyone should have to defend a preference.
Those kids are in for a hard road with those names. Can you picture those names on a business card or resume? I really feel for them.[/quote]
Having a grown son - those parents are in for a big suprise when those kids end up having a mind of their own and change their names....it can happen.
Having German boots and tatoos is just silly. Why don't they commit and move to Germany...they won't find many like minded people there either.
I to saw this the other night and was "jar-dropped" by this story. The children were so cute with no worries in their eyes. I will pray that they dont grow up with hate and try to hide it like there parents.
I 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th to the motion of banning certain names. I had the same mind frame most of you had--these children will be teased all through school.
I had to Google the middle one's name as well and got "Did you mean ******". I also googled the person that they were really naming their child adfter....Google brought up wikipedia. OMG this guy was a monster. They actually have him listed as being in charge of "extermination" camps. WTF you exterminate roaches.....NOT PEOPLE!!!!
I would have done the cake because it's not the little boy's fault. BUT I would have only put his 1st name!
In the end, Walmart ended up making the cake, and they are catching flak for it.
Here's the latest article on the situation:
http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/today/index.ssf/2008/12/as_adolf_hitler_campbell_celeb.html
I hope hope hope that they are not getting paid for their interviews. Ridiculous.
I don't have the heart to tell her she wearing Wal-Mart stuff, she would be mortified!
Ah, come on!!! That would be the FUN part!!!!
What I meant to say was "why pay $20 for the same jeans I can get them at Walmart for $7. " They won't last any longer at Old Navy or Sears then they do if bought from Wal*Mart.
My sister was like that .... When her kids were little, she would only buy them Lee jeans (back in the day when Lee jeans were "the" jeans to own!). But she would only buy them at the expensive store in town, not at KMart. I'd laugh when I'd point out to her that the Lee Jeans truck that delivers to KMart, probably drives straight to her expensive store and delivers there on the same day! Lee jeans are Lee jeans no matter where you buy them, 'lil sis!!
I saw this the other day and felt so sorry for those kids.
I would refuse to make the cake - so sorry - no can do.
I am part German - my grandfather is from Slavonia and my maiden name is straight up German. My mom's cousin's husband's middle name is Adolfe (Just learned that) but he was born in 1933 but it is certainly not something I have ever heard around the family.
I wouldn't do their cake and would refuse to do ANYONE's cake that ask me to put that name or any Nazi emblems on anything.
I have the right to refuse anything that I deem offensive.
The law is that you cannot discriminate based on sex, race, religion, creed, color, age, yada...yada..yada...
You can refuse service to someone if you don't like their hairstyle, shoes, etc. Yes, you can!
Shop Rite did not break the law in this case.
So now can we start a thread for strange, odd, and funny names that we come across? A coworker and I exchange some of the more creative ones we see and get a chuckle once in a while, but I know it would be offensive to some.
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