First Pillared And Disappointed...question?

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lcottington Posted 12 Nov 2006 , 4:17pm
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I did my first pillared cake -- I used the Wilton push in pillars. Delivered the cake at room temp and it looked perfect. When I pushed in the pillars I got the bulge in the bottom tier you see below (didn't have time to fix because I was late to my in-laws anniversary party for which this is for). Should I have pushed the pillars in when the cake was chilled - would that have helped?

I don't usually have bulge issues (anymore) and this wasn't overfilled -- I used preserves and it was a dense cake -- so it truly was due to the pressure of the pillar pressing through...or maybe it was that I was using the Whipped Cream Buttercream and I also used it for the dam and unlike my thicker BCs it didn't hold due to the pressure....

Any suggestions?
LL

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jwm296 Posted 12 Nov 2006 , 5:00pm
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First,.........Beautiful cake !!! Your drop strings are excellent. The bulge was probably due to the whipped buttercream icing. I use that quite a bit. I always make my dam twice as thick and start it in from the side about 3/8 of an inch and just fill the gap with frosting when i do my crumb coat, Seams to work pretty good.

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bonniesido Posted 12 Nov 2006 , 5:03pm
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That is a very nice cake. I am sure it was a hit even with the bulge. I think you answered your own question. The dam always needs to be the thicker buttercream and I bet that is what went wrong. Great cake anyway!

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lcottington Posted 12 Nov 2006 , 8:57pm
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Thanks - I thought it might be the BC - I had thick BC made for the strings should have used that....

Lisanne

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Kitagrl Posted 12 Nov 2006 , 9:13pm
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Awesome strings! I can't do stringwork for the life of me!

I think chilling the cake would have helped prevent the bulging when you pushed the pillars in. We use push in pillars at work and our cakes are always chilled before we use them.

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AlamoSweets Posted 13 Nov 2006 , 4:24am
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I agree a thicker BC for the dam. Excellent strings and beautiful cake. I bet absolutely no one noticed.

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Jopalis Posted 13 Nov 2006 , 6:35pm
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So, you put a wide dam of BC under the layer of fondant on top of bottom cake? Just trying to understand.... Or are you talking about the same dam you use to keep filling in...??

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Jopalis Posted 13 Nov 2006 , 6:38pm
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Actually I can see where the dam is in the top layer too. So you all are talking about using the stiffer bc in the filling dam area.... Since it is showing in the top too, it must not just be the pillars right? Pillars made it more pronounced in lower layer. OK...I got it. Now, if you chill it first, would it bulge after it warmed up? OK... newbie to shut up now...thanks!

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Loucinda Posted 13 Nov 2006 , 6:44pm
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How long did you let the cake rest before filling and decorating it? I have found that if I bake a day ahead of time, and let the cakes "rest" that when I do put them together and stack them (using a dam for the filling of course) that I do not get the "bulge". I even go as far as stacking them on top of each other (2 to a stack! - and always wrapped in saran wrap) so that they have that weight already on them, and it compresses them that much more.

If I am in a hurry and trying to bake and decorate the same day - the bulge will always appear.

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tirby Posted 13 Nov 2006 , 6:51pm
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Originally Posted by Jopalis

OK... newbie to shut up now...thanks!




FUNNY FUNNY. We were all newbies once!
I have just started letting the dam crust. And keeping it about 1/2 inch in the border of the tier. seemas to work much better for me that way

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lcottington Posted 13 Nov 2006 , 7:08pm
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Thanks all -- this had more than enough time to settle - I filled and let crust before decorating and gave it a good three hours to settle and crust before final icing put on.

I truly think it was the Whipped Cream BC I used for the dam -- I will use my more stable BC from now on for the dam and then the Whipped Cream BC for the outside!

Lisanne

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tirby Posted 13 Nov 2006 , 7:10pm
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That is my favorite icing but not for a dam. It will do it every time. You are right that probably is it.

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