Firm Cakes For Carving/ Stacking... Help!

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amsnowden Posted 3 Nov 2006 , 4:45am
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I was just watching that show on FoodNetwork, Ace of Cakes, and the decorator on there, whose cakes get rave reviews in appearance AND taste, is handling a two layered cake that is filled (unfrosted) and is lifting it and moving it without even a cake board under it! He's even turning it on its side and the cake holds up perfectly. My cakes would break into a million pieces icon_cry.gif . I am a firm believer in baking from scratch and everyone loves my cakes, they are moist and delicious, but they are so fragile that I often have trouble with cracks or breaks. Does anyone have a solution to this or could someone point me in the direction of a made from scratch recipe that is sturdy enough for carving / stacking / etc.!!!

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Chef_Stef Posted 3 Nov 2006 , 4:51am
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It's probably a realllly well-chilled scratch (dense) cake.

I had one that I defrosted the other day that was a spare that I wanted to play with, and I could not beLIEVE how much I could handle it, turn it on its side, cut it down pretty small, etc., with no problem at all. It was *only just* defrosted, not frozen, but still plenty cold.

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allissweets Posted 3 Nov 2006 , 4:53am
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I just watched Ace of Cakes too. I love his cakes - it's just so sad that no one will be able to eat that dinosaur - he was so cute! Duff comes up with some ideas...

Sorry I can't help you with the carving...I've never had to do that.

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gourmetcakes Posted 3 Nov 2006 , 4:55am
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Well, I don't know how it would work with a "scratch" cake, but I have seen on previous posts that people add a box of pudding, an extra egg and milk instead of water to their boxed cake mixes to make a dense cake. These would be used for carving, 3-D cakes, etc.

Hope this helps.

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amsnowden Posted 3 Nov 2006 , 4:57am
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Originally Posted by homecook

It's probably a realllly well-chilled scratch (dense) cake.

I had one that I defrosted the other day that was a spare that I wanted to play with, and I could not beLIEVE how much I could handle it, turn it on its side, cut it down pretty small, etc., with no problem at all. It was *only just* defrosted, not frozen, but still plenty cold.





I know that "Charm City Cakes" (Ace of Cakes' shop) advertises as a big selling point "always fresh, never frozen", so I am wondering if just getting it cold, like in the fridge overnight, would do the trick. Anyone have suggestions on a dense recipe???

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lilthorner Posted 3 Nov 2006 , 5:00am
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I use a butter (pound type) cake for dense cakes. I haven't ever carved a cake but this recipe is almost exactly like my favorite pound cake recipe

3 cups cake flour
3 sticks butter
2.5 cups sugar
5 eggs
1.5 teaspoon vanilla
3/4 teaspoon baking powder
1c. milk

bake at 325.

standard mixing order. cream butter/sugar. add eggs one at a time, mix flour and powder together. add flour and milk alternately starting and ending with flour

vanilla is mixed in milk or added at end. I usually mix in with milk now

I have also tried the ultimate butter cake from baking911 and I liked it too

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Chef_Stef Posted 3 Nov 2006 , 5:00am
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The one I was working with was Toba Garrett's chocolate fudge cake. Sylvia Weinstock's chocolate fudge is very dense too, but I found it dry, though I have sculpted it. Rose Levy B's choc fudge is dense, but I haven't worked with it as much because I like Toba's for taste (!!) the best.

I don't ever freeze customer cakes, either, but for the fam, well--they get what they get...lol

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Sweetcakes23 Posted 3 Nov 2006 , 5:13am
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I do freeze my cakes, but I also treat them with a simple syrup first and they are always very moist. I have had people say they are the best cakes they've ever tasted!
I believe this makes them much easier to work with than a non frozen cake.
I think thats, why the cracks occur and why its so fragile. Just my opinion.... icon_rolleyes.gif

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amsnowden Posted 3 Nov 2006 , 5:18am
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I don't ever freeze customer cakes, either, but for the fam, well--they get what they get...lol




ISN'T THAT THE TRUTH!!!!! I COMPLETELY KNOW HOW THAT GOES! icon_lol.gif

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