Which is better for frosting bags... paper or those Wilton bags? Seems like everytime I use the Wilton bags, frosting flows through the seams. Am I just doing something wrong on holding the bag or are these just made cheap. Cause they sure don't cost cheap, and I see paper-ones and wonder if they are better.
Are you using stiff icing in the wilton plastic bags? Im thinking your talking the disposable ones??? I personally like them but not for stiff. I dont care for the parchment ones dont seem to be able to contol them well. But on the disposable ones I make sure to twist them really good so icing doesnt work itself to top of bag.
I talking about the plastic rubber ones that say professional bags. I have been using Royal frosting in them and everytime the seam falls apart, next thing I know, frosting on the side of the bag.
WHICH Wilton bags are you talking about? I use Wilton's Featherweight bags -- they are a bit costly as far as bags are concerned, but they are reusable. I've had some of my bags for quite some time and have had no problems.
I've also used Wilton's *Disposable* bags. Those do seem to break easily at the seams if I have a stiff icing in them. I usually only use those for small quick jobs, or for Royal icing projects (because they're grease free).
I hate parchment bags -- never got the trick on folding them properly and keeping the icing in them! --Maybe something I can learn from this website!
I have always used the clear disposable bags for Royal Icing. My instructor told us not to put Royal Icing into a bag that has already had buttercream icing in it before, as that will break down the Royal Icing, so I've never used Royal Icing in a professional bag and all of mine have held up great. Your icing may be just a little too thick if the bag is breaking. Try to thin it down just a little bit. I know my disposable bags have torn where I have the coupler at because my icing was too stiff. Also, I reuse my disposable bags as much as I can. I hate to throw it away after just one use when I know it could be washed and used again. 
For plastic bags, I like Kee-Seal. These have never busted on me and are not slick. I especially like the 21" bags for the cake icer tip.
For regular buttercream decorating I prefer parchment, but NOT Wilton. I don't know the name of the brand because the place that I buy them gets them in bulk and sells them in packages of 100. They are also 18", so they hold frosting a little better.
If you have a problem with frosting coming out the top, try putting a rubber band on the bag. This works really well when using Royal in the plastic bags to keep it from drying.
Michele
another tip that another poster had on here a couple of months ago:
take a sheet of regular pastic wrap
place a blob of frosting on it
roll it up and tie off one end
put the whole thing with the open end towards the bottom of frosting bag
squeeze.
You won't get anymore greasy bag and it's WAY easier to clean up later. Plus you can take one "bullet" out and put another color in so this saves on the use of bags.
Here's a link:
http://www.cakecentral.com/cake-decorating-ftopict-38404-plastic.html+wrap+bag+tip
THIS IS THE BEST IDEA EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One bag says Featherweight Decorating Bag, Premium Quality. The others say Vinyl Decorating Bag and are stiff.
You've had problems with both types? I'm very happy with my Wilton Featherweight ones.
Been using Wilton Featherweight for over 20 years, I swear I own one or 2 that are over 10 years old! Also use plastic disposable ones as well, and I'm cheap too! I do wash them out sometimes 
Yeah-when I first started cake decorating I got 2 of the vinyl bags because I didn't know much and because they were the smallest the store had, but compared to the featherweight, they are a little harder to use. I don't think I will be getting anymore vinyl bags. 
I use all kinds of pastry bags, and the one thing I've noticed the few times I've had a bag split...I pushed my luck and put too much frosting in it. Was trying to have to avoid refilling my bag and ended up wasting the whole bag in the process...
I use a brand called Kee-Seal and they are sturdier than the Wilton. I popped the seams on the Wilton ones all the time.
I don't know if they have a website.
I'm with Derby- the plastic wrap "bullet" is a the best tip I've learned. I feel like I have more control over the pressure, I don't get air bubbles, and the frosting doesn't come oozing out of the top!
Is the Wilton cake icer tip supposed to stay in the bag like the couplers do? I just got a 16" featherweight bag (couldn't believe how big it was!) and the label said this size bag was recomended for the cake icer tip, so I cut it to size a put it in the bag. I used it to ice a cake today (can't believe
I went this long without it!) and while I was washing it, it slipped out of the bag-I guess since it is metal it doesn't stay?
I use both featherweight and disposable bags. I buy my disposable bags from work (I don't remember what brand they are) in rolls of 100. The Wilton plastic bags suck. I use parchment but only if I need a small hole and don't feel like using a tip! Plastic bags are bad for that because they tend to be more square.
The vinyl bags suck too.
Hey Cassie, my guess is when you cut the tip of your bag for the cake icer you made the opening too big. I use my 16" bag with my icing tip all the time and it's never slipped out. My instructor told me when you trim the opening of the bags, do not cut them more than half way up the tip or the coupler -- stick the tip or coupler in first and use a pencil to mark it. It's horrible to waste a brand new bag and then cut it too big! I've done it before too!
Is there a coupler to fit the cake icer tip? I have never seen one that big.
I know I've seen the one bigger than the standard coupler, but not one to fit the icer tip. I didn't think I cut it too far up. It doesn't look like it is half way up the tip. Not really a big deal if it does slip out every time I wash it, I will just put it back in for the next time. I'm sure not going to throw this $6.00 
bag away!
I love the plastic bags from Wilton. Either the icing is to thick or you are filling the bags with too much icing at least that's my opinion hope that helps
My favorites are the featherweight bags. I also have some that say vinyl, but I think they are stiffer and not so nice to hold. I also use the clear disposable ones. I usually dispose of them after washing many, many times and a hole finally pokes thru in them, usually around the coupler where it gets stressed. I have troubles with the clear ones bursting a pinhole with stiffer icing, which is why I use the clear ones for that so I don't ruin my expensive bags. I think my featherweights are going on 6 or 7 years now and still work perfectly.
I always use the Wilton plastic throw away bags. Never had a problem. Well I guess that's not true but it was my fault. I cut the whole for the tip to big and the icing came out from inbetween the bag and tip. But that was not the bags fault.
I use Wilton's featherweight bag for my icing tip. Nothing else. And will use parchment only if the job is going to be small and I need a very small bag.
I have nothing bad to say about any of the Wilton bags. So far they have been great. That being said, I have not used any other and don't know the difference.
Joanne
The better bag to use with the icer tip is the Ateco Flex Bag. It is specially designed for use with the icer tip. It is longer and has a larger opening at the bottom - no cutting.
They sell them at www.pastrysampler.com.
Theresa
Is there a to fit the cake icer tip? I have never seen one that big.
I know I've seen the one bigger than the standard , but not one to fit the icer tip. I didn't think I cut it too far up. It doesn't look like it is half way up the tip. Not really a big deal if it does slip out every time I wash it, I will just put it back in for the next time. I'm sure not going to throw this $6.00
bag away!
Are you saying that with the coupler, you leave it in when you wash the bag? That is, you put the coupler into the bag the first time you use the bag, and don't ever remove it for cleaning?
If so, how do you make sure that you get all the old icing out?
RP
I have found that the lightweight bags work fine as long as you don't leave them soaking for a long time. The seams come apart, I have had some of my bags a long time. I use a 24" heavy weight for my cupcakes and icing cakes. The kee-seals I use for royal and buttercream. The parchment I buy in large sizes and cut them in half. I like to use the paper for smaller things, like writing or real fine small work. I keep every bag there is just in case. I don't use any of Wilton bags.
Hi!
I don't like using the featherweight bags. I find that they stain with dark colored icings and they just don't look clean to me.
However, I do love the disposable ones! I don't like the oozing icing, but I can't wait to try the saran wrap tip. That sounds great.
Thanks and good luck.
Is there a to fit the cake icer tip? I have never seen one that big.
I know I've seen the one bigger than the standard , but not one to fit the icer tip. I didn't think I cut it too far up. It doesn't look like it is half way up the tip. Not really a big deal if it does slip out every time I wash it, I will just put it back in for the next time. I'm sure not going to throw this $6.00
bag away!Are you saying that with the , you leave it in when you wash the bag? That is, you put the into the bag the first time you use the bag, and don't ever remove it for cleaning?
If so, how do you make sure that you get all the old icing out?
RP
I honestly did not know to take them out of the bags. The way my instructor talked sounded like once you put them in there, they are there to stay. I know if I use a clear disposable bag with a coupler, I take it out and wash the bag and the coupler each. It is so much trouble, though having to turn the bag inside out to get the coupler out-I'm a penny pincher. I don't throw away the bag until it gets a hole. But, you do have to take the coupler out tof the Wilton featherweight bags??
Cassie,
Yes, I definitely take the coupler out for washing. I have noticed that a lot of icing seems to get squeezed between the coupler and the bag, so I can't imagine being able to get all of it out without doing that. I don't think the old icing would necessarily get into the new icing when you refill the bag, but I think that there would be a risk of it getting rancid if you didn't use the bag for a while.
RP
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