What Would You Do

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heather2780 Posted 24 Aug 2007 , 3:00am
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ok I started this job less than 2 months ago. I was hired part time but asked to work full time through the summer 9 to 5 I agreed but expressed that when my DS started school i would need to be off at 3 no problem they said. so my son started school and I told my immediate supervisor and she said no problem and wrote it in the schedule so here im feeling great I have a good job weekends and holidays off plus i can take and pick up my DS from school its perfect. even though after i pay for childcare on my DD I barely make enough in a month to cover my car payment. anyway in a meeting today i was told very loudly in front of everyone by an upper level boss that I could not work those hours I ethier had to pick a early morning shift or be there at closing. and while i understand its not there job to worry about my daycare I have no one to pick up my son and I have signed a contract with my DD day care saying I only work 9 to 3. so now i have to talk to my boss tommrow and i guess if she is not willing to work with me in these hours i will have to quit. this just breaks my heart I really found a job I love but I have no choice i have no one to care for my kids after 3 pm each day and if I were to pay someone to watch my kids after school I would spend every penny I make in a month on child care what since does that make?? please tell me what you would do in my situation???? remember my bosses agreed up front to allow me to work 9 to 3.

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Melvira Posted 24 Aug 2007 , 3:08am
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I would talk to your boss about it very frankly! I would tell him/her that you really like working there, and when you signed on with them it was with the understanding that these hours were not a problem. Tell him/her that you don't want to quit, but if your hours can't work the way they promised, you have no other alternative! If you are not relying on this job as your main source of income you have a lot more wiggle room! Good luck, it won't be easy!

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JRAE33 Posted 24 Aug 2007 , 12:10pm
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If they won't work with you and keep up their end of the bargain, I don't think you have a choice but to quit. They said you could work 9-3. Remind your boss of that. If they won't work with you I think you need to leave. It doesn't make sense to pay for daycare after three if you would be working just to pay for daycare! That's why I stay home. After hubby and I factored in all the costs associated with having job (daycare, gas, lunches, work clothes, etc...) we realized one of us would be working just to cover those costs. Didn't make sense. Sounds like it would be the same for you if they insist you work those additional hours. Why work just to pay for daycare?! I'm so sorry they are doing this to you. I don't understand why employers treat employees this way? If they didn't want some one to work 9-3, then why hire you?! They knew your situation from the start.

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fmcmulle Posted 24 Aug 2007 , 12:10pm
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I agree with Melvira. Talk to your boss. I was in the same boat once about my hours and I explained either I needed these hours or I would have to find another job. Fortunately they worked with me because i had been with the comoany for 15 years and not I am on my 20th. It maybe that you have to find another one and if thats the case than this one wasn't the one that was intended for you and theres a better one out there.
Good luck
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michellenj Posted 24 Aug 2007 , 1:06pm
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I agree with what the pp's said, but have another issue. It was very unprofessional of the upper boss to bring that up to you in front of your peers. It's just wrong. If he had a problem with your hours, he should have taken you aside, discudded it wit hyou, and let you state your case. That would have eliminated the whole problem. And it would have been even better if the supervisor that you discussed your hours with were in the meeting, too. Your supervisor may be at fault here, I mean maybe he/sh promised you this and was hoping something would work out in the end, but really had no business promising you that schedule.

I also left my job b/c of promises that were not kept to me when I was hired.

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Melvira Posted 24 Aug 2007 , 3:15pm
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I agree wholeheartedly with michellenj... I didn't want to open that can of worms too fully, but that was a distasteful lack of professionalism on the 'big' boss' part. I know sometimes they think that they are beyond having to act in a professional and kind manner. Or perhaps it was a large lack of tact on their part. Maybe they didn't think there was anything wrong with redressing you publicly. Whatever the case may be, I would surely figure that in to your decision making process... do you have regular contact with this person, and are they likely to treat you this way in the future.

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Star_dust_girl Posted 24 Aug 2007 , 3:39pm
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I think that you have gotten some wonderful advice so far so I won't add anything. Except to say that I am really sorry that you are going through all of this and I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers that things work out well for you. Who knows, if you have to quit, maybe there is a better job or option just waiting for you?! icon_lol.gif
Good luck and God Bless!!!!

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indydebi Posted 24 Aug 2007 , 4:19pm
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icon_mad.gif grrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!! icon_mad.gif

I'll never understand how bosses think that our children can be put on a shelf to accommodate THEIR schedule.

If working until closing was a requirement before you took the job, then it would be totally different. You would have been agreeing to those terms / hours. But that's not the deal.

When I first met hubby, he was a manager in a pretty good sized bank, and a bachelor. He said to me, a single mom, in reference to people with daycare: "They knew they had kids when they took this job."

I said: "Look here! Women are 52% of the workforce and most of them are single parent households. We are here. We are in the job market. And unless you are going to only hire childless men, then you better figure out a way to deal with it!"

He said that really got him thinking and he started to change his thinking.

My favorite was after we were married and our youngest son was sick. Both of us had special circumstances at work that began a debate on who could stay home with him. He looked at me and said, "My gosh, look what we are going thru and there's 2 of us. What do single parents do?"

I got that smug "told you so" look on my face and told him, 'They hope they have a boss who understands that children don't get sick on the boss's schedule and sometimes a parent has to prioritize ..... and the job NEVER comes before the sick child!"

That one REALLY woke him up.

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Melvira Posted 24 Aug 2007 , 4:33pm
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You GO with your bad self Debi!! It's nice that you were able to shine a little light for him! icon_wink.gif

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michellenj Posted 24 Aug 2007 , 5:06pm
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Please let us know what they say. We are behind you!

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tchrmom Posted 25 Aug 2007 , 1:32am
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I agree with all the previous, particularly indydebi. In fact, it's probably statistically proven somewhere, that not only do children not get sick on the boss's schedule, they will inevitably get sick on the least convenient day possible, no matter how many adults are in the home or assisting with their care. I really don't know how single parents do it, and my hat is off to all of them. I am fortunate to be in a job where I can take sick days and to have a husband who takes turns, but I know not everyone does, and I know how lucky I am.

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bitofsnshn Posted 25 Aug 2007 , 2:06am
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Heather,

Is this a large company. If so, don't be afraid to contact your regional manager or higher to let them know you were hired for a schedule, accomodated them for the summer, and now is being raked over the coles for wanting to return to your hired schedule. At my old work we didn't touch anyone with childcare issues. It was not something we wanted to deal with. IF we had a single parent who had to work a schedule for daycare issues it was no differnt then accomoting students we hired who had school schedules. If they have accomdations for anyone else at work then you have the right to have that same benefit extended to you.

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heather2780 Posted 25 Aug 2007 , 2:55am
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wow thankyou guys so much you have brought up some very good points I will touch on. the sick thing guess what my DD was sick today up all night icon_cry.gif but i took her to day care this morning there was no fever or throwing up just a head cold but through the day it got worse and worse and my supervisor was not being very cooperative at all my mom actually left work to go and get her. heres the kicker I work for early head start in the 0-4 program my DD is 3 (cant bring her by the way) you would think these people would understand if i called parent because there child is sick they would have to leave work. the funny thing is too headstart (great program by the way) will bend over backwards to help out the familys in our program I mean they will do anything but they will not help there own employees. about the boss lady saying something to me in front of everyone at a training yes that was very inappriate but the least of my worries right now. but this women the director of early childhood is the one who did my interview and hired me she is the one i orginally worked out the 9 to 3 with she is ofcourse now denying it. icon_confused.gif so my assist teacher was putting the schedule today and the only day it was a problem was for like a half hour on tuesday so since she is salary she agreed to stay that half hour. well the site manager said that will not work but then as usual she got sidetracked and the assist teach said she would call me (no call yet) and to the person who said about accodating college students we have a girl there that started college this year (she is the dirctors DD) and she says now she can only work 1 hour here and 2 hours there and morning one day and afternoon anther. and they are allowing her to do this which is why they cant help me. but I will wait for final word and if its no I will give my notice and on top of that i will only work the 20 hours a week i was hired for instead of the 40 i have been working all summer and even though i work full time I get NO benifits because i was technically hired part time. I hate to do I love my job but i dont see anther way out. I remeber now why i was a SAHM for 7 years before now.
sorry so long please forgive. icon_eek.gif

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CourtneysCustomCakes Posted 25 Aug 2007 , 9:38pm
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Oh Heather I'm so sorry. I was taking the program through Head Start to become a teacher. I realized after the class and doing the onsite work I only had 3 hrs a day with my kids. I decided they were more important. Yes it was a good program, but I had a few qwams with them.

And why can't you take your DD? She is of the right age. Especially if your are in the right income bracket, then they shouldn't be able to turn you away.

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heather2780 Posted 26 Aug 2007 , 2:16am
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we were not in the income bracket for last year (we would have been where we lived higher cost of living) but here you have to be pretty poor to go. ethier way we have community slots where the parents pay to bring there kids even if there over the imcome guidlines and they would not let me do it. they said in the past teachers who had there children there became fustrated with there own children and it became to much of a problem with those parents asking other people to take care of there children. I think its a crock but after working there awhile i wouldnt want my DD to go anyway i mean its great for the babies but i think by three they should move into a head start program cause our bigger kids are just plain board and not advancing in a center designed with tots in mind.

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CourtneysCustomCakes Posted 26 Aug 2007 , 3:14am
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Do you have the means to do inhome daycare. Take in a couple of children whose parents are the same boat as you? I had a firend here a couple weeks ago and we figured it out to be about 1600.00 a month just for 4 kids and it goes up from there for each additional. I mean hey you already do it now for someone else why not your self. And you will be able to be there for your daughter(not included in the count) and your son when he gets home from school.

Just a thought.

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heather2780 Posted 26 Aug 2007 , 5:58am
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I have considered in home day care and its definitly an option later down the line I actually have a spare space that right now its just kinda a craft room but know reason it couldnt be a play room. there is just a lot of licensed day cares around here and i wonder why people would bring there child to an unlinced one. I guess i could go through the steps to get linced or be open odd hours always an option. right now my DH works graves so having kids around during the day would not work. I still havent been called so i guess i will just show up monday having it in mind that i will get off at 3 I do hope i can stay on I enjoy working there although when i was hired I was hired for a 3 to 5 part year program and they needed help in the 0 to 4 age group so i was thrown over here which is not my long term goal. I feel like a baby sitter sometimes but we do teach very good socail emotional skills. ethier way i will know for sure monday my birthday by the way. yea and i will keep you posted thankyou so much everyone for the support and advice.

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CourtneysCustomCakes Posted 30 Aug 2007 , 7:40pm
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I don't know what state your in but most have in home licensing for childcare. And I'm sure there are people out there who work grave yard shifts, shich most daycares don't cover. So people would probably be eager to find someone licensed or not for "babysitting" while they work at night. That would be a easy shift too (Lights out by 9pm.).

Good luck

And happy late Birthday.

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heather2780 Posted 31 Aug 2007 , 2:24am
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I never thought of people who need over night day care that is definitly something to look into. So I guess they must be allowing me to work my 9 to 3 because so far they have not said anything about it. except that the 1 day a week my DH can pick up the kids they want me to stay until five. and i could be a tottal hard nose about this but im trying to be good so I agreed for now I told them but if my DH shift changes I will not be able to do that. So my poor DD who was sick all last week didnt get any better and I got a call from day care tuesday she had a 103.6 fever so off to the doc we ran and she has a upper respitory infection and some bacterial fluid behind the ears so guess who took 2 days off luckily they were nice about that. but when i talked to my boss tuesday I told her I will be back thursday and she said ok see your thursday and then today I tottally got my but chewed because I did not call her to let her know I would be there today and she had called in a sub and anther girl missed training because i wasnt there. forgive me but i told her i would be there thrusday and why couldnt the other girl go to her training if they had called in a sub to cover me?? oh I will just keep my head low and work my shift next year when caili starts pre-school I can find something better for me and my family. keep your fingers crossed thankyou so much for all your advice. sorry I type so much!!!

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Kayakado Posted 31 Aug 2007 , 3:05pm
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When we were kids, my mother got a job running an elementary school kitchen. Her hours were 9-3, 5 days a week and no summer hours. When we were out of school, so was she. It was the perfect job for a mother with school age kids. She also got full benefits and they paid for her food handler classes and license. She loved it.

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CourtneysCustomCakes Posted 31 Aug 2007 , 5:13pm
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Heather, I know you are in a tight situation. But you don't have to put up with that kind of crap. This is the reason that I won't work for anyone else, unless we are on the same playing field, if we don't mesh then it's not worth it. I won't be treated like a peyon just to satisfy someones ego. I know it's hard. I worked in a headstart program years ago as well and had the same problems. I am a firm believer that even though it's work it doesn't mean you don't have to enjoy yourself. If you aren't happy with what your doing you'll just get burn't out that much easier, and have hard feelings towards the situation.

I now for the most part work for myself, it is so much easier than wondering what other people think. Even though I can be alot harder on myself at times.

I just wish you the best. I hope something better comes along for you.

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