Fondant Vs. Marzipan - Help Define Application

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AZrunner Posted 12 Oct 2006 , 5:14pm
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I've only used MMF to cover cakes, some ribbon molding and flowers. What little I know of marzipan, it is used to mold 3d figures, and is made from almonds. What are the characteristic differences usage between the two?

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AZrunner Posted 12 Oct 2006 , 5:19pm
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and when do I want to add gumtex?

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lmn4881 Posted 12 Oct 2006 , 5:30pm
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Some people roll out their marzipan and put it under their fondant on wedding cakes. Keeps cake extra moist. I've used marzipan to mold figurines and have never added gumtex. The only thing with molding marzipan is that it reacts with the heat from your hands. I had to mold quickly or keep putting itback in the fridge for a bit. I made home made marzipan because I couldn't buy it here, So i bought the almond paste and made my own. Had to mix just about all of it by hand though because mixer couldn't take it. Hope this helps some.

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AmyBeth Posted 12 Oct 2006 , 5:38pm
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Is gumpaste or marzipan easier to work with when doing 3d figures?
I was given a picture of a cake that I was asked to do and it had marzipan fruit on it. I have never worked with marzipan either.
Should I stick with the gumpaste?

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lmn4881 Posted 12 Oct 2006 , 7:08pm
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MArzipan fruit is fairly easy to make. It's like using play-doh...lol... I guess it all depends on what you are used to and which one you prefer. Good Luck!

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ShirleyW Posted 12 Oct 2006 , 9:05pm
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The basic difference is that marzipan is made from ground almonds and so has a bit of an oily texture, where fondant doesn't. In England the traditional wedding cake can be fruit cake or sponge cake covered in rolled marzipan and then a layer of rolled fondant, which is called sugarpaste there.

Marzipan figurines can only be keep for so long, they begin to smell rancid after awhile. I am speaking of pre-made purchased marzipan but imagine homemade would do the same thing. I haven't kept fondant for any length of time but my guess is that it would just get harder with age. Not sure if it would get moldy after awhile.

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AmyBeth Posted 12 Oct 2006 , 9:09pm
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Thanks! I think I am going to stick with the gumpaste/ fondant mix on this one then. I dont' want it to be oily at all.
With the fondant gumpaste you can put it in an airtight container and it will keep for a VERY LONG TIME.
I want to make these decorations a few weeks in advance.

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lmn4881 Posted 13 Oct 2006 , 12:32am
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I've had my marzipan wrapped in saran in an air tight container for 3 months nw and it is still fine.

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AZrunner Posted 13 Oct 2006 , 3:21pm
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Still need help with my initial question. Choice between (MMF) fondant or marzipan when covering cake, what are advantages and disadvantages of the two in similar applications. Have never used marzipan for covering or molding. Thanks!

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emmascakes Posted 13 Oct 2006 , 5:50pm
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We don't call fondant 'sugarpaste' we call it fondant - I assumed sugarpaste was an American name!

Marzipan is very heavy when used as a covering for a cake and can be quite sticky to use. It would squash a sponge I think - we use it for dense fruit cakes. It has a very strong almondy flavour and a yellowish colour. It's not as flexible or malleable as fondant as it cracks if you pull it about too much.

I would use gumpaste for modelling, fondant for covering and marzipan just on fruit cakes underneath fondant. Marzipan can be used to make marzipan fruits with but has a slightly grainy texture and doesn't dry hard enough to hold complicated shapes and forms. I hope this has helped - I'm happy to answer any more marzipan questions as I use it regularly, just PM me icon_smile.gif

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cakesunlimited Posted 13 Oct 2006 , 5:58pm
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Yes over here in the UK we call the roll out icing sugarpaste and in the US you call it fondant. Over here fondant is something you fill chocolates with. Marzipan is used to cover the cake to make a smooth surface for the sugarpaste.

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lindsaycakes Posted 13 Oct 2006 , 7:32pm
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The good thing about Marzipan decorations is that they are edible, and YUMMY! I really like the look of Marzipan fruits, but I've never made anything else with it.

So, "CAKESUNLIMITED", what do you call the paste you mold flowers with?? I thought THAT was sugarpaste?? (The terms for cake mediums can be SO confusing, because people interchange them like crazy, and then there are different terms in different countries).

There should be a thread about this, clarifying all the terms people use!! Anyone know about one??

Lindsay

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cakesunlimited Posted 15 Oct 2006 , 12:49am
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Originally Posted by lindsaycakes

The good thing about Marzipan decorations is that they are edible, and YUMMY! I really like the look of Marzipan fruits, but I've never made anything else with it.

So, "CAKESUNLIMITED", what do you call the paste you mold flowers with?? I thought THAT was sugarpaste?? (The terms for cake mediums can be SO confusing, because people interchange them like crazy, and then there are different terms in different countries).

There should be a thread about this, clarifying all the terms people use!! Anyone know about one??

Lindsay




Well "LINDSAYCAKES" - no the paste we use to mould flowers is called petalpaste or flowerpaste. We also have mexican paste for moulding figures or sugardough. We also have pastillage which sets really hard for items which you would want to be stronger like castle towers or stand up cards etc.
Yes I agree that a thread would be useful.
We also seem to find each others recipes confusingbecause we have plain and self raising flour where you have cake flour and self rising flour.

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lindsaycakes Posted 15 Oct 2006 , 2:14pm
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AHH, I see. So there are SEVERAL "---paste" mediums that you use in the UK.
Whereas here in the States, people interchange gum-,sugar-, flower- paste....but it's pretty much all the same thing.

INTERESTING! icon_smile.gif Thanks for clearing things up!
Lindsay

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