Roses! Is It My Icing Or Technique?

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Dizzymaiden Posted 10 Oct 2006 , 2:03pm
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No matter what I do my roses don't stand out. They kind of blob and spread. I think it's my icing but I use the standard royal?? Any thoughts?

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traceysob Posted 10 Oct 2006 , 2:11pm
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It sounds like your icing isn't thick enough, but I'm not sure so I'll give you a bump- good luckicon_smile.gif

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JaneK Posted 10 Oct 2006 , 2:12pm
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...just making this quick..at work icon_redface.gif
When we were making flowers in Wilton Course II, our RI was much thicker/stiffer than what I ever expected it to be...or what I was using before.
Make sure the icing is very very stiff and what I do is wait for the "core" of the rose to be set for quite a while before I do the roses...I make all the cores first and by the time I have done 20, I can go to the first one and start making the petals.
I hope this helps! I can only say what worked for me and I am a beginner but my roses have turned out well this way..blue cake with white roses in my gallery is an example of my best roses in RI.
Good luck!! icon_smile.gif

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Dizzymaiden Posted 10 Oct 2006 , 2:15pm
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Make sure the icing is very very stiff and what I do is wait for the "core" of the rose to be set for quite a while before I do the roses...I make all the cores first and by the time I have done 20, I can go to the first one and start making the petals.




Great idea! So stressed out I could not think! I have to have 30 roses/flowers for tommorrows class. I can't wait to go home and try again.

For a orange basket, do you think light orange and yellow flowers would look good?

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JaneK Posted 10 Oct 2006 , 2:22pm
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relax..this is supposed to be fun icon_biggrin.gif ..you sound like me..hahaha
for an orange basket, either would look good ..why don't you make a few different colours in that range and some cream/white ones too..
Whatever you choose will look fine...sometimes I choose a colour or theme and it is not what I expected ..at first I would be horrified but then I thought to myself, good learning experience..now I know better what looks good together and what doesn't..
Still learning that icon_redface.gif
Sounds like you are taking classes..good luck and remember this is FUN!!!!
Jane from Ottawa
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doleta Posted 10 Oct 2006 , 2:43pm
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Still a newbie myself, can't even get lessons until Jan.
But, I like to goof around.
I tried making RI roses on stick pretzels the other day with great success. (I think they were good anyway. Don't have anyone to show them to who know's)
I used it real stiff. I put it on the end of the pretzel. Then I pushed it off with a square of wax paper to dry.
I did this while watching TV and now have a bunch of yellow roses of all sizes.

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JackSkellington11 Posted 10 Oct 2006 , 3:59pm
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I had the same problem until I tried thickening my icing andit turns out that I thickened it too much and it just cracked but now I have it just about perfect. . .My favorite color to do roses is bright orange and bright green! thumbs_up.gif

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Parable Posted 10 Oct 2006 , 7:08pm
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I know where you are coming from. A couple of weeks ago I started making roses for a rose cascade wedding cake (in my profile now).

I had not made roses in so long I had totally forgotten two very importatant things.....a little piping gel added to very VERY stiff icing. By the third night trying( and 100 roses later), I finally got it right, but my hand was killing me. Then I remembered, that's right I remember that pain. lol

All I can say is, "Keep trying til it hurts". Good luck.

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Dizzymaiden Posted 10 Oct 2006 , 7:14pm
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a little added to very VERY stiff icing. By the third night trying( and 100 roses later), I finally got it right, but my hand was killing me. Then I remembered, that's right I remember that pain. lol

All I can say is, "Keep trying til it hurts". Good luck.




adding piping gel..no wonder my hand hurts. i just added more liquid which is why I am getting blobs instead of petals. Thanks.

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annamata Posted 10 Oct 2006 , 7:16pm
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Have you tried making roses out of fondant/gumpaste? I've done fondant rose and I love it.

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doleta Posted 10 Oct 2006 , 7:18pm
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How do you know how much piping gel to add?

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Cakelady232 Posted 10 Oct 2006 , 7:21pm
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Piping gel isn't going to address her problem. Her royal is not stiff enough. She needs to run that mixer for 7 to 10 minutes. If not, the frosting will just collapse and sink.

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Parable Posted 10 Oct 2006 , 7:44pm
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Piping gel isn't going to address her problem. Her royal is not stiff enough. She needs to run that mixer for 7 to 10 minutes. If not, the frosting will just collapse and sink.


Cakelady232 is right if this is a mistake you are making by not mixing long enough. But, if your problem is too soft of a consistency then stiffen-up with more 10X sugar. I only use a little piping gel so the stiff icing doesn't crack like JackSkellington11
says happens.

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doescakestoo Posted 10 Oct 2006 , 7:49pm
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You can add 1 TBLSP of corn starch to the RI it will help stiffen it up if you did mix it for 7 - 10 min, sometimes after it has set it can soften up alot. HTH

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