I am not a rose expert (I can't even do them well enough to put them on cakes!!! 
), but I think that yours look really great!!!!! Why do you think that there is something wrong with them???
Here are my roses. So to me yours look great. Honestly I don't see anything wrong with yours, so don't beat yourself up they look great.
Vic
well for one thing, I should of elaborated in my post...I would go to make the bud, you know..wrap the first petal around the bud, the bud would start to fall over..at first I thought maybe I had my icing to thick. Well when I added more ps they would do the same thing...I finally had to quit I was so tired. I HAVE to learn roses by next week, so I have to practice these things. I want to make a cake for my SIL and she is at most my worst nightmare when it comes to critics. Also when I went to put the bottom row on the petals wanted to pull away from the rose. Thanks for your comments, I guess I just need to keep practicing but I couldn't understand why everything kept happening. Heres another picture of my roses from last night to give you a better idea. Oh also wanted to say..I did them on the nail but would take them off to start another to see if I could get better. I didn't do them on the counter. LOL
1) cut little squares of wax paper to put on nail first (use dab of icing to glue in place) ..easier to get off w/out damaging flower.
2) yes, stiff is better.
3) do you have HOT hands???? I do and even w/ stiff BC, I still get "soft" roses just from BC heating up -- so I have multiple bags and switch constantly.
4) are you using real butter or Crisco based BC? -- due to my hot hands, I have to use all Crisco based for this type of work -- it stays stiff longer
5) bud should look like a Hershey kiss...in fact many decorators actually use Hershey kisses for their centers (yummy surprise and very sturdy)
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they look like very pretty wild/victorian roses to me!
Are you doing your roses in BC or RI?
If you are using BC, try a Hershey Kiss as the base. Just put a dab of BC under it so it doesnt slide around. This way the little cone doesnt try to bend when you attach the first pettals.
If you are using RI, make all the cones first. Let them dry a few minutes and then start piping your petals. Once the cone is dry to the touch, it will be easier to add the petals. Again, the cone won't bend when you attach the petals.
Now, dont worry so much!!! Your roses look great! 
Have fun, and remember to post a picture of the finished cake. I can't wait to see it.
I use 1/2 crisco 1/2 butter in my recipe. I am going to try RI though to see if maybe letting the bud dry will help my roses. I really wanted to do bc on the final cake, because SIL will really turn her nose up on it if I don't. Hey I've got all weekend to practice. And maybe I should practice on hershey kisses to. Thanks for your comments they really do help us newbies
It looks like maybe you need your icing a little stiffer. I like to add some corn syrup to stiff icing, helps with the flexibilty and helps to have nice smooth edges.
Make sure your base is nice and fat, that might be why they are falling over too.
Dont be afraid to really adhear your petals to the base. Keep the tip on the base the whole time you are doing your petal.
On some of your roses it looks like you could rotate your wrist a little more to like a 2 or 3 oclock so your petals arent so upright. Also I do each petal like an arc...Like start at the bottom or near the bottom of the base and go up high like a rainbow...for each row the arc will be shorter. i know that probably doesnt make any sense! I am lucky to have gotten the rose pretty easily... unfortunately I cannot do the rose bud though...oh well roses are prettier....
Well I've never attempted roses- yet- or any flower lol, so I cant answer that question, but I do have 2 things to mention
1) your roses look fine to me
2) Is your SIL some kind of rose expert that she would even be in the position to critique your roses? Never mind be snooty about it? No offense to your SIL, but she needs an attitude adjustment, and you need not to be concerned with her opinion so much. Your roses look great and you do the best you can and that's all that matters and if she turns her nose up at your beautiful roses, BC OR RI, you have my permission to shove a couple hersheys kisses up her nostrils 
(or hand her a decorating bag and tell her to do a better job or keep her attitude to herself 
) I mean if you were going to do some roses on a cake for Dede Wilson or Duff or some cake God then I/d understand being nervous, because they're in the field. Maybe she is a fantastic decorator, you didnt mention that, but either way she has no right to be snooty and judgemental, and you are not required to take her snooty attitude sitting down Good luck! Cant wait to see the cake!
SIL is a perfectionist..you know the kind....if her steak isn't just PERFECT she sends it back no matter how many times they try to please her... I try to keep worries off of hubby because he has enough stress as it is without her b(*^%&g about a cake, and as far as the hershey kiss up her nose... I'd like to shove a whole bag up her *&^ 
lol. oops sorry
I like to use tip 97 for my roses (I had a very hard time with tip 104) because it gives your petals more of a "curve". I always freeze my roses until I'm ready to put them on the cake because I can't get the hang of that dang flower lifter!
Hello there...your roses look pretty good to me....
I do suggest though switching bags out while you are making roses..i keep one in the frig( due to my hot hands) and the other i work with...that should help with the consistancy issue...also just remeber to turn your tip outwards(down) for each set of petals you do..i used to make roses that looked like cabbage...all standing straight up good luck..dawn
I thought maybe there was a mistake and you posted the wrong picture! LOL! Your roses look great!
Try making a batch of icing with 1/2 the amount of crisco, make it pretty stiff, then add a little corn syrup. Works for me.
I think your roses are fine, but if you are not happy with them, then YOU are the one you need to please, Not some ol' snooty, snotty, sister-in-law.
Oops, I reverted back to my first marriage for a second. (I know about sisters-in-laws like yours).
Hope this helps.
These are the things that come to my mind that may help.
1) I think someone already suggested this but until you get comfortable with making roses, the all-crisco recipe might be easier to handle as it is thicker and won't melt as quickly from the warmth of your hands.
2) Also, when you make your base, make sure it is nice and thick at the bottom and I would say a little bit higher than a hershey's kiss...a thick base will help it not to fall over as easily.
3) Work on getting your first wrapped around petal (after the base) a little tighter than what you are doing. This can be more easily accomplished if you start mid-base but wrap the base by going a little higher than the base as you twist your rose nail.
Keep practicing! Study the wilton book. It will click!
(Oh, btw, I don't like using the wax paper squares as they tend to slide off the nail for me. I pipe directly on the nail and then remove with a small spatula. But see what works for you.)
I thought your roses looked fine to me.
The thing that has helped me with the roses is making sure I had a good base..with RI, I let it the base get hard for a few minutes and then I pipe the petals...I think doing them in RI is what finally gave me confidence that I could actually make a decent looking rose.
With BC, like everyone else said, make sure your hands are melting the icing..keep a couple of bags going and also that your icing is the correct consistency.
I just started my Wilton Course 2, so just started on roses a few weeks ago. I am not terribyl fond of doing BC roses - I think mine turn out fine but I'll have to say they are a bit frustrating because no matter how thick I make the icing for the base, it moves on the nail (yes, even if I "push down) on the icing when making the base. My instructor says the base is fine and I'm sure it has something to do with the icing getting warm as I'm making the rose. Anyway, I get tired of trying to slide the rose back and forth on the nail just to get it to stay on. I think in the future, I'm going to try and make a bunch of bases and FREEZE them for a bit to see if the base will stay put.
I am going to try some royal icing roses this weekend. My instructor also said with these, it's a good idea to let the base sit for awhile if you can (even up to an hour or so) to get the base nice and stiff.
Hope this helps. I think your roses look pretty good myself! Keep up the good work. And oh, about your sister-in-law......it kind of sounds like you are focusing your energy on her and what she will think (am I right?) That's understandable because she is such a critic. I have a suggestion. Try to change your thought process. It can work....really !!! Pretend you are making the cake for a two year old, who will more than likely think your roses are fabulous !!! Just keep telling yourself that your roses are beautiful. I believe in the power of positive thinking and if you THINK your roses look beautiful they will LOOK beautiful. If you (we/me) think about how terribly someone is going to react, it CAN effect how you feel and what kind of job you do !! Hope I don't sound preachy, as that would never be my intent! I'm just saying this works for me and I hope it will work for you, too !! 
Just wanted you all to know I got the cake done, even though I need to practice a bunch more (which I will do tonight with my leftover icing). Heres a pic of the finished cake...or if you all think it needs something else tell me. I know the roses AND the cake aren't perfect. Had trouble with the cake leaning. It's a yellow cake with pineapple filling. It's a 6 inch torted. Thanks for all of your advice and comments. That really helps alot.
AuntSushi I am not close enough to anywhere to take a course. But I did invest in the course books. Lucky ducks if you all can take the courses I would love to and cant 
. As far as my SIL...I am taking your advice. Just won't be worried about her. Thanks again
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