Homeschooling My Self And Guess What

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wgoat5 Posted 6 Oct 2006 , 10:53am
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I had a good night sleep, kids sleeping well and I decide to get up and try my hand at the practice boards. I made the stiffer buttercream because that is what the recipe in the Wilton Course 1 said to do. All my attempts at the board have been failures....icing just cracks or falls over icon_cry.gificon_cry.gif How am I supposed to practice and get as good as you all if my icing won't even cooperate! Sniff....So now I add a little bit of water to thin it and now it doesn't keep shape icon_mad.gif !! Just how thick should my icing be to do borders, shells, rosettes and anything like that??? Consistency of what??? Mashed potatoes? coolwhip?? Pound cake batter? TIA icon_smile.gif

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playingwithsugar Posted 6 Oct 2006 , 11:03am
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Which technique are you trying to do with the stiff icing? The book outlines which consistencies to use for which techniques. Those directions are on the last page of the previous lesson.

I only use stiff icing to do dams and to pipe flowers. Everything else is thin or medium consistency.

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wgoat5 Posted 6 Oct 2006 , 11:06am
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Well I just made the icing that was in the first book on the first couple of pages. Do I add water to then it teaspoon by teaspoon or just a tiny bit at a time?

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mgdqueen Posted 6 Oct 2006 , 11:17am
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If you only made one batch, do about a teaspoon at a time. It should take a couple to get it to medium. Medium is still thick, but little peaks will be softer when you pull a spoon out. It's like mashed potatoes-NOT whipped thin potatoes, but mashed thicker ones. Just play with it a little and do what works best for you. If it's too thin, put some more powdered sugar in. You are just practicing, and that is the first difficult thing to practice-making the right consistency.

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heavenlys Posted 6 Oct 2006 , 11:20am
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when I thin my icing down I use a spray bottle so I can control how much water I add easier. I used to get frustrated because I needed to thin a little and then I would make soup instead.

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playingwithsugar Posted 6 Oct 2006 , 11:23am
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Start with the amount recommended in the recipe, which is 2 tablespoons of water. Then, for 1 cup medium consistency, you would normally use 1 teaspoon of water, for thin, 2 teaspoons of water.

Now, there are other factors that you may not be taking into consideration. If the weather is humid or rainy outside, you would use slightly less water, say 1/2 to 1 teaspoon per full batch.

If you have hot hands, you have to use less water, or the icing will melt as you are piping it. If this is the case, make smaller bags and switch off. Put them in the refrigerator, if necessary, to bring them back to proper consistency - 5 minutes maximum.

Are you using regular shortening, or pre-creamed? If you are using pre-creamed, that will present a problem, also, as the icing will take on the consistency of overbeaten icing.

Here's a link to the Wilton website, where techniques are taught. Each technique gives the information on which consistency to use.

http://www.wilton.com/decorating/basic/index.cfm

If your icing cracks as you pipe it, it normally means that it is too thick for the tip or technique you are trying. Consult the links to see which you need to use.

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Kitagrl Posted 8 Oct 2006 , 12:41am
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Sometimes if you are not using enough pressure/piping too slowly, the icing will rip and crack....

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RisqueBusiness Posted 8 Oct 2006 , 12:48am
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if you want to practice..you can fill your piping bag with CRISCO! that's right...crisco...

Pipe away, and when you're done...you can use for something else!

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megankennedy Posted 8 Oct 2006 , 1:01am
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that is a great idea!!! waste not.... thumbs_up.gif

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jstritt Posted 12 Oct 2006 , 2:44pm
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that Crisco ideas is great. I never would have even thought of that. Sometimes we overlook the simplest of things.

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RisqueBusiness Posted 12 Oct 2006 , 4:08pm
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That should be the actual "consistency" of your piping buttercream....so if you get used to the feel of the crisco..when you put your icing into the bags...you already have a "feel" for it..

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wgoat5 Posted 12 Oct 2006 , 4:19pm
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Thanks sooo much for the advice.. gonna practice with crisco icon_smile.gif Now is this the same consistency that I would use for roses?

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4Gifts4Lisa Posted 12 Oct 2006 , 10:08pm
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This is a great tip!

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MessiET Posted 13 Oct 2006 , 2:34am
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Crisco!!! What a great idea !!

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birdgirl Posted 13 Oct 2006 , 1:58pm
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Crisco is a great idea! Wish I knew that a while ago since I wasted a ton of frosting! I always end up with icing on my hands, that would make a great moisturizer while you work! icon_biggrin.gif

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jillchap Posted 13 Oct 2006 , 2:09pm
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When making the class buttercream icing, I generally have to add about an extra tablespoon of water to each recipe as all the powdered sugar I can find has constarch (thickening agent) in it. The first time I tried without adding extra water, it was totally brutal! Check the ingredients of your powdered sugar to make sure that it doesn't have cornstarch!
HTH

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pscsgrrl Posted 13 Oct 2006 , 2:24pm
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When I am thinning down icing, either BC or royal for cookies, I stir it with a spatula a couple of times then "dip" the spatula under the faucet. Then stir. It might take a little longer, but I rarely over thin this way.

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Rambo Posted 13 Oct 2006 , 2:44pm
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wgoat5 - A rule of thumb for flowers. If the petals need to stand up, like the rose, then use stiff consistency icing. Which is the original batch of frosting before you add water. If it's too stiff or tearing when you pipe it, piping gel works wonders to thin it enough to be smooth but not "thin". Flatter flowers, like drop flowers and sweet peas can be piped in medium.

The crisco tip for practice is fantastic but here are what we were told to look for in class. Stiff, when you poke it gently with your finger will not stick to your skin. Medium is firm but will come off on your finger when your touch it, like toothpaste. Thin is the consistency of gel toothpaste. You touch it lightly and you get no resistence and your finger is covered in frosting.

Hope this helps

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wgoat5 Posted 13 Oct 2006 , 3:40pm
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Thanks so much thats easy for me to remember!

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chelleb1974 Posted 25 Oct 2006 , 8:15pm
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Crisco is a great idea! Wish I knew that a while ago since I wasted a ton of frosting! I always end up with icing on my hands, that would make a great moisturizer while you work!




Not to mention a great deterent (sp?) to licking the frosting off your fingers!!! thumbs_up.gif

~Chelle

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redbird Posted 27 Oct 2006 , 12:25am
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Wow! Crisco is a great idea. I don't practice nearly enough because I don't want to go to the work of making more frosting (and all that powdered sugar gets expensive!). Oh, and I do use the medium for the roses too. It works for me but not everyone. Some people use half stiff and half medium and others stiff. For me, the stiff made the petals too jagged on the edges.

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Derby Posted 28 Oct 2006 , 6:50am
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ah ha!!! another great practice tip. I have learned SO MUCH from this website.

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