What Goes Around Comes Around.....

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debsuewoo Posted 28 Sep 2006 , 11:02pm
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I was watching the Cereal Skyline challenge lastnight and couldn't believe when that lady ratted Duff out! I was so mad I wanted to go up to San Francisco and soap her bakery windows! Even my husband was shocked at the pettiness she showed! Karma has a way of coming back at you!

I hope they don't invite her back to a challenge. I say more Momo!!

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mkolmar Posted 28 Sep 2006 , 11:19pm
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call it like it is girl, I didn't see it yet but heard all about it at school. GRRRR

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steffy8 Posted 28 Sep 2006 , 11:27pm
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Pretty pathetic. I guess she knew she wasn't going to win anyway. I couldn't believe I was hearing that. She sounded like she was a 4 y/o. I hope that made her feel better thumbsdown.gif

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tysmom Posted 28 Sep 2006 , 11:33pm
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I'm out of the loop!! What happened?? icon_redface.gif

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notjustcake Posted 28 Sep 2006 , 11:34pm
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I didn't watch the show cereal cakes just didn't catch my attention last night but I do watch Ace of Cakes what did she say about Duff? I'd like to know

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JoanneK Posted 28 Sep 2006 , 11:36pm
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I don't know. I think it was ok for her to do that. She had asked about being able to use the same thing and was told no she couldn't. If it's ok for one person then it should be ok for both. After all they make the rules and the rules have to be played by.

Look at the poor guy who lost big points for being only 3 inches shorter.

I think it was good to see Duff being told he couldn't do something then seeing how he worked around it to make his the big winner in spite of the change in his plans.

It shows us all that we can overcome things even when we are told about it at a late time in the construction of the cake.

Duff did a wonderful job and I was so happy to see him win and to win fairly by playing with the all rules.

Had he won but gotten away with using the post then everyone would have said he only won because he cheated. This way he won fair and square.

Joanne

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bellejoey Posted 28 Sep 2006 , 11:38pm
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Duff took it like a man! He's the best! I would have not been as cool as he was! But maybe he knew that she wouldn't win either! Ha! Ha!

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BlakesCakes Posted 29 Sep 2006 , 1:05am
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Elizabeth Falkner did the right thing in telling the judges that Duff had used a dowel as a structural support. They had all been given the same set of rules--why the devil shouldn't he have to abide by them????

I, for one, am pretty tired of people thinking that rules are merely "guidelines" icon_cool.gif And I'm even more offended by those who think that if you break the rules and don't get caught, that you're somehow better than the person who has the courage to tell others that you're nothing but a cheat!!!!!

Duff did a fabulous job on that skyline. I had him pegged to win from the beginning. I lived in Baltimore for 7 years and he had the Inner Harbor down to a T. It was obvious that he had practiced and planned very, very well. He handled the discussion with the judges well--he's really growing up! Instead of being a joke or a disaster waiting to happen, he took the bull by the horns, learned from his previous "devil may care" attitiude, and showed his real talent.

In addition to his check for $10.000 he has the confidence and peace generated by knowing that he really did win fair and square--go Duff!

Rae

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Derby Posted 29 Sep 2006 , 1:09am
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I have no problem with people ratting like that.....it ALWAYS comes back in the end anyway. Duff handled it like a champ and I was really happy for him....his skyline was really the best by FAR!!!

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BlakesCakes Posted 29 Sep 2006 , 1:18am
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I don't get it--What's supposed to "come back" to Elizabeth Falkner? She did the right thing, he did the right thing when reminded what the rules were, she lost because her's wasn't the best, and he won because his was not only the best but also followed the rules.

Turn it around--he doesn't follow the rules (not necessarily on purpose), she sees it but doesn't say anything, he wins, she's upset and complains, the judges find the dowel and have to decide whether or not to allow him to keep the prize money, he feels rotten, she feels rotten, the judges feel rotten--how is that better than what happened???

Am I to believe that by being honest and forthright--and expecting the same of the other contestants--that somehow bad karma will dog Elizabeth Falkner for the rest of her cake making days???

I prefer to believe that both people are inherently good and that they were judged fairly having competed on an even playing field--and that they'll both benefit mightily from that.

Wins based on lies are hollow and deliver nothing but more hollowness into one's life.

Rae

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meghan89 Posted 29 Sep 2006 , 1:19am
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WOW!!! I cant believe people are mad at the woman for letting the judges know that Duff was not abiding by the rules! So, let me get this straight, Duff should have been allowed an advantage over all the people that were following the rules? That doesnt seem right! And its not like he was bending a rule that wasnt that big of a deal, he was using a DOWEL!!!! That could make or break some of the pieces.

Saying someone is pathetic because they want a fair chance to win a competion is pretty harsh. I am truly shocked!!!! So sad that we live in a society where someone trying to do the right thing is made out to be a horrible person, unbelievable!

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cakerator Posted 29 Sep 2006 , 2:29am
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everyone needs to remember that this is an edited television show. its like every reality show - the producers have a way of highlighting the smallest incident to create controversy.
elizabeth points out that duff is going against the rules... the producers make sure it looks like she is 'ratting him out' in a negative way, knowing that the audience will be all over it!
look at this thread for example... we're eating right out of their hands by getting all worked up about it. LOL

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lsawyer Posted 29 Sep 2006 , 2:35am
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Character without courage is meaningless. She did the right thing.
The right thing is not always popular (see The Diary of Anne Frank).

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PieceofCakeAZ Posted 29 Sep 2006 , 4:09am
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I agree that everyone should follow the rules, but let me make certain that I understand some of you correctly

The way I read what some of you are saying is like this If someone that is doing something legally knows of someone that is doing something illegally, the person doing their thing legally should promptly report the illegal party to the body that hands down the punishment for the illegal action?
Does anybody running a cake business perhaps out of their home. Completely agree with that? I mean, it's the right thing isn't it?

Just my opinion here but... if a CC regular started a thread called "Reported to the Health Department by a competitor" and went on to explain that a local licensed bakery felt threatened by them and turned them in for baking at home, most of CC would be outraged. Posts galore would berate the bakery that turned the CC'er in, calling them petty and jealous. Now, Duff didn't even know he was breaking a rule but I am guessing every home baker on the site that sells cakes for profit knows they are operating illegally would you all advocate turning everyone in? After all, they are breaking the rules.

There are a dozen or more CC'ers that are in my area and are operating illegal businesses out of their homes and another dozen I can find by going to a couple of wedding resource sites. It has never once occurred to me to call my health inspector and drop names and phone numbers. Is it because I am a swell guy and I support the breaking of laws and the spread of foodborne diseases? Not so much. It's because I don't rat people out and dudes that do rat people out get bludgeoned by 2 bigger dudes when they finger the rat. As a 34 year old bakery owner, the bludgeoning really doesn't come up anymore, but the lesson is the same never ever rat anyone out for any reason. Just mind your business and let everything work itself out.

So while I agree that everyone should follow the rules, personally I will never be the rat. And I'm not so much a fan of rats.

JMHO


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Dustbunny Posted 29 Sep 2006 , 12:30pm
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I thought it was kinda petty but Duff was breaking the rules, unknowingly of course but still breaking them. He obviously didn't need that dowel because his was the best and it won lol so way to go Duff!!!

I didn't like Elizabeths attitude during the whole show not just about Duff. The one that bugged me was that judge (not Nicholas or Collette) that was so mean to Duff, that man didn't have a kind thing to say icon_mad.gif Jealous a little? lol. Momo rocked, loved the comment about giving his half to his Mom, what a sweetie icon_smile.gif

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KHalstead Posted 29 Sep 2006 , 12:51pm
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Okay........this is hilarious!!! I love it!!!!!!!

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lsawyer Posted 29 Sep 2006 , 1:30pm
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PieceofCakeAZ........you bring up some interesting points, which can open up a whole can of worms re ethics.
I think if bakeries were severly impacted by home bakers, most would turn them in. And they'd be right to do so. Wouldn't you, if you had to close shop because of illegal competition?
If I knew a home baker, or bakery, was spreading illness to customers, I'd turn them in.
But in a staged competition, there's supposed to be a level playing field---no one should have an advantage, whether it's intentional or not. If I were doing something wrong in a competition, I'd feel terrible if no one brought it to my attention. I'd be too ashamed to accept the "winner" status if my error gave me an advantage.
This unfair advantage issue is a real problem in a lot of competitions, as evidenced by steroid use by ball players and cycling competitors. (Landis was stripped of his cycling trophy! How embarrassing)
Anyway, just my 2 cents worth.

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SweetThistleCakes Posted 29 Sep 2006 , 2:43pm
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Rules are meant to be followed by everyone, not just the ones who choose to follow them. I dont see anything wrong with what she did.

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cakerator Posted 29 Sep 2006 , 2:44pm
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i think PieceofcakeAZ hit the nail right on the head!

some people tend to get a little self-righteous around here. its like they are morally superior to everyone who runs a cake business illegally.
i'm not in business at this time but i do know that every state is different - has DIFFERENT RULES to be abided by.
people are going to do what people want to do, regardless of someone else's moral stance. if someone's jealousy consumes them to the point that they need to 'rat' someone out, maybe its time for some re-evaluation.
lets be real, unless this other illegal baker is putting you out of business, you have no reason to rat them out. my view is that maybe you should be stepping up your game to compete with this threat.
also, every customer can easily research their cake decorator to find out if they are running a legal business, if they feel the need. if they chose to work with this person because they like their work, then the legal baker down the street is out of luck - themz da breaks! icon_smile.gif

JMHO

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birdgirl Posted 29 Sep 2006 , 2:59pm
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PieceofcakeAZ--thank you for your disclaimer although somewhere in there should be: Do not use for a heat source, this heat gun should not be used to dry hair, something about California knowing there is lead in it so keep it out of your mouth........... Sorry......

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edencakes Posted 29 Sep 2006 , 3:01pm
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I didn't see the show, and as for the 'moral controversy' - I'm not even going to put my horse in that race.

I just want to say that PieceofCakeAZ's disclaimer is the funniest thing I've read in a while, and I am going to steal it for future use! icon_lol.gif

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qwww Posted 29 Sep 2006 , 3:09pm
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What is the difference between ratting out and doing the right thing ? If nobody was affected by this it would be ratting out - but this was a competition. Why then do we ban steroids in games ? or better still why have rules at all?
IMO - Elizabeth did the right thing. It may not have been a popular thing to do but it was what she felt was right. And yes this was a competition and no one should have an unfair advantage - intentional or not.Maybe she could have handled it differently but this is TV whre they play up such things and make decent people look like the devil.
And this is not being self righteous - this is just being fair.
No bad karma for Elizsabeth I should know coming from the land that invented karma icon_biggrin.gif
Hope I didnt offend anyone I just felt bad that someone doing something right was being mocked at.
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SweetThistleCakes Posted 29 Sep 2006 , 3:15pm
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Who's coming off self righteous? I've yet to see any legal baker here come off self righteous. If anything, I've seen legal bakers take the time out of their day to post the rules and regulations on their sate and city and offer tips on how to get legal. Perhaps they are wasting their time then if their being seen as anything but helpful. icon_confused.gif

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KlyKat Posted 29 Sep 2006 , 4:11pm
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Okay........this is hilarious!!! I love it!!!!!!!




I just read this and thought the same thing! icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif Too funny!

DUFF ROCKS thumbs_up.gif Just my opinion, K'ly ^,,^

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cowdex Posted 29 Sep 2006 , 7:21pm
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[quote="Dustbunny"]The one that bugged me was that judge (not Nicholas or Collette) that was so mean to Duff, that man didn't have a kind thing to say icon_mad.gif quote]

AMEN !!!!!!!!!

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BlakesCakes Posted 29 Sep 2006 , 7:30pm
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I doubt that Don Wressell could offend Duff. Duff recognizes the alpha dog when he sees him--the guy knows his stuff:

Currently Chef Wressell is a private consultant. He has represented the United States three times in the National Pastry Cup competition, and has twice been named by Chocolatier and Pastry Art & Design one of the Ten Best Pastry Chefs in America. Wressell was named Pastry Chef of the Year at the World Pastry Forum in 2005.



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prettycake Posted 29 Sep 2006 , 7:48pm
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Duff won, that's all that matters...and the decision will not change.
I'm sure Duff don't care what that lady thinks now. It's not Duff's
heart that's aching, it's hers. LOL icon_lol.gificon_lol.gifthumbs_up.gif Duff deserved it. icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif Duff has the last laugh and the $10,000.00 check..
icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif Oh well, Too darn bad. !!

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7yyrt Posted 29 Sep 2006 , 9:12pm
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Does anyone know when they'll repeat it? My VCR messed up! icon_cry.gif

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KlyKat Posted 30 Sep 2006 , 4:32am
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I doubt that Don Wressell could offend Duff. Duff recognizes the alpha dog when he sees him--the guy knows his stuff:

Currently Chef Wressell is a private consultant. He has represented the United States three times in the National Pastry Cup competition, and has twice been named by Chocolatier and Pastry Art & Design one of the Ten Best Pastry Chefs in America. Wressell was named Pastry Chef of the Year at the World Pastry Forum in 2005.

Well, even with all that being said, it doesn't excuse bad manners and jealousy. DUFF ROCKS, K'ly ^,,^


Rae


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CakeDiva73 Posted 1 Oct 2006 , 9:50pm
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Wow..... this is fairly heated. icon_surprised.gif

I think it took ba$$s to turn him in. I also don't know if I would have been able to do it...I'm just being honest. It's not fair that he got to use dowels if she didn't but the playground 8 year-old in me was thinking 'What a tattletale.... Let's go TP her house tonight!" icon_cool.gif childish? Yes, totally but at least I'm honest.

As for turning in a unlicensed baker, never would I do that.....even the ones who are really mean. icon_biggrin.gif

I do believe in karma. The other day, a $3 game ended up in my cart and I didn't find out 'till I was out in the car and just said 'Whatever'. Yesterday, I bought a $3.50 CD-ROM game for my kids and when I got home, the CD was missing.... icon_confused.gif Coincidence? I think not......

I think she was embarassed... it was hard to tell her expression when they were talking to her and I couldn't figure out whether is was embarassment or a victorious expression she was hiding.

Lots of people don't have a problem with people doing things that are morally wrong or breaking rules until it affects THEM. Then, they mount their high-horse. And others are so morally rigid that I want to puke. I have little patience for either side..... we are all human and no one is perfect. At some point in time, we have all bent or broken a rule and anyone who says they haven't is not being truthful, IMHO.

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