White Russian Cake - Do Not Understand An Ingredient!

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moralna Posted 18 Sep 2006 , 3:04pm
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I am making a Kahlua White Russian Cake for my cousin this weekend and have found a recipe that includes. . . "3 oz White baking bar w/cocoa choc." in it. My question, and please forgive my ignorance, what is a a white baking bar with cocoa chocolate? Is there a white chocolate baking bar that has cocoa in it? Are they saying to add the cocoa? PLEASE HELP!!

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Chef_Stef Posted 18 Sep 2006 , 3:27pm
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The only thing I can think of is that there are basically "two" white chocolates you will find. The first is the "white" chocolate baking bars that will be basically just vanilla flavored candy (i.e. Nestle white baking chips, white baking bars for candy dipping, etc), and the other is actually white chocolate (i.e. ghiradelli and some others).

The difference is that in the ingredients of *real* white chocolate, you will see COCOA BUTTER listed. If it doesn't have cocoa butter in the ingredients, it is not actually white chocolate, just vanilla...stuff...

Does that make sense? Anyway--I get real white chocolate from Williams Sonoma (very expensive) or you can google it and see about other online dealers, or Walmart actually sells a baker's bar of "premium white chocolate" I believe...probably Ghiradelli..?

Just make sure you check the ingredients for the cocoa butter.

Maybe that's what it's trying to tell you when it says cocoa/choc. I can't imagine what else it would mean....

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Melvira Posted 18 Sep 2006 , 3:32pm
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I second that Homecook... I think the recipe is just trying to tell you that you can't go 'cheap' and use the 'fake stuff' you are actually going to have to shell out for real white chocolate. Man, that sounds yummy though!! Good luck!

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hockeygirl658 Posted 18 Sep 2006 , 3:34pm
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Trader Joe's sells big chunks of Ghiradelli chocolate. They are from the giant bars that they sell to tourists, but they are broken and shrink wrapped. I buy A LOT icon_redface.gif of chocolate there!

If they have the kind you need (with the coca butter) it is much cheaper than buying the "perfect" bars at a specialty store.

Hope that helps

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MsTonyasCakes Posted 18 Sep 2006 , 3:37pm
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I'd agree with homecook.......btw......that cake sounds wonderful, would you share the recipe?

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auntsushi Posted 18 Sep 2006 , 3:41pm
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I wish we had Trader Joes here in Colorado !!! icon_cry.gif I lived in the Napa Valley for a few years and we had them there, and I miss being able to go there !!

Good luck with your cake. It sounds yummy!!

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moralna Posted 18 Sep 2006 , 4:07pm
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THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU to all of you - especially Homecook - your explanation was detailed and completely understandable!!!! This is the recipe I found that sounds pretty simple. . .

3 tb Kahlua
2 tb Vodka
3 oz White baking bar w/cocoa cho
2 c Sifted cake flour
¨ú ts Baking soda
¨ö ts Baking powder
2 c Whipping cream
¨ö c Powdered sugar
1 ¨ù c Sugar
¨ö c Butter
2 tb Shortening
3 Eggs
¨ú c Buttermilk
¨÷ c Apricot jam
¨ù c Kahlua
2 tb Vodka

KAHLUA WHITE RUSSIAN CREME White baking bar w/cocoa shaved into curls (I use potatoe peeler for this) In med heavy saucepan combine Kahlua, vodka and 3 oz chopped white baking bar. Cook and stir over low heat till baking bar is melted, cool slightly. Grease and lightly flour three 8x1 1/2 round baking pans (I use my 9") In small bowl stir flour, baking soda, and baking powder, set aside . In large bowl combine sugar, butter and shortening, beat w/electric mixer on med spd till light and fluffy. Add eggs, ONE at a time, beating till combined. Beat in the cooled liqueur mixture. Alternately add flour mixture and buttermilk to egg mixture, beating on low to med spd after each addition till combined. Spread the batter evenly in pans. Bake at 350~F for 20-25 mins or till toothpick in center comes out clean. Cool the cake layers in the pans on wire racks for 10 mins. Remove from pans and cool completely on wire racks. To assemble, place one layer, bottom side up, on a serving plate. Spread layer w/about 3 TB of the jam and 1/3 C of the Kahlua White Russian Cream. Place a 2nd layer on top of first, bottom side up, spread w/remaining jam and 1/3 c of the cream. Top w/remaining cake layer, bottom side up. Swirl remaining cream onto the top and sides of cake. Decorate top (I do the sides too, looks soooo pretty!) w/baking bar curls. COVER AND CHILL FOR UP TO 24 HOURS!!! To serve, cut into wedges, dipping knife into water between slides. 12-16 servings. KAHLUA WHITE RUSSIAN CREAM In chilled med bowl combine Whipping cream, and sifted fpowdered sugar. Beat w/electric mixer on low speed until thickened. Gradually add kahlua and Vodka, beat on low speed until soft peaks form. DO NOT OVERBEAT

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Melvira Posted 18 Sep 2006 , 4:17pm
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Ok, can anyone else read that recipe or is it all strange characters? Maybe it's just me. I would really like the recipe but it's in cryptic characters.... help!

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moralna Posted 18 Sep 2006 , 4:23pm
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Wow - that's strange because when i sent it, it was in normal text. . . .

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Melvira Posted 18 Sep 2006 , 4:27pm
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Haha! I think we have an evil little internet troll that just really doesn't want anyone to have that recipe!! icon_lol.gif

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Wendoger Posted 18 Sep 2006 , 4:33pm
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3 tb Kahlua
2 tb Vodka
3 oz White baking bar w/cocoa cho
2 c Sifted cake flour
three fourths ts Baking soda
half ts Baking powder
2 c Whipping cream
half c Powdered sugar
1 and one fourth c Sugar
halfc Butter
2 tb Shortening
3 Eggs
three fourths c Buttermilk
one third c Apricot jam
one fourth c Kahlua
2 tb Vodka

Or you can go here....
http://www.astray.com/recipes/?show=Kahlua%20white%20russian%20cake

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Tiffysma Posted 18 Sep 2006 , 4:34pm
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Could be because it is copywrited. Here is a link for one I found - is this the same recipe?

http://www.astray.com/recipes/?show=Kahlua%20white%20russian%20cake

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Marksgirl Posted 18 Sep 2006 , 4:35pm
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icon_biggrin.gif either that or there was to much Kahlua & Vodka drinking going on icon_eek.gificon_surprised.gif

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Tiffysma Posted 18 Sep 2006 , 4:38pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marksgirl

icon_biggrin.gif either that or there was to much Kahlua & Vodka drinking going on icon_eek.gificon_surprised.gif





ROFLOL!!!! icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

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Melvira Posted 18 Sep 2006 , 4:43pm
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HEY! I resent the implication! I NEVER bake when I'm drinking! I mean... I'm never cake when I'm making drunk! I mean... um... booze... to much... never happened. icon_razz.gif

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Wendoger Posted 18 Sep 2006 , 4:45pm
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...LOL.....LOL....LOL.....LOL.... icon_lol.gif

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angief Posted 18 Sep 2006 , 4:51pm
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Okay....my husband just walked in wanting to know why I was laughing sooooo hard at the computer. He thinks I need to get a desk chair with a seatbelt so I stop falling out of it when I'm laughing. You guys are great!!! icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

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Melvira Posted 18 Sep 2006 , 5:11pm
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I would also consider one of those little helmets... head trauma at this point would really diminish your decorating ability! icon_wink.gif

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Chef_Stef Posted 18 Sep 2006 , 6:05pm
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You're welcome...I'm swiping this recipe as pyament, I mean payment...whoops, where'd that kahlua get to?

LOL

You guys are too funy, I mean funny...

ROFL

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moralna Posted 18 Sep 2006 , 7:48pm
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Everyone - I have found a recipe using Duncan Hines that might be just as great and less costlyicon_smile.gif It is:
1 package of DH yellow cake mix
1 6 oz. package of vanilla pudding (If i can find it, i may try using the white chocolate pudding mix)
1/2 cup sugar
4 eggs
1 cup of vegetable oil
1/4 cup of kahlua
1/4 cup of vodka
3/4 cup of water

Mix all cake ingredients and beat for 2 minutes. Pour into greased and floured cake pans. Bake at 350 for 50-60 minutes (or until cake tests done). Cool, etc., etc.

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MaisieBake Posted 18 Sep 2006 , 9:51pm
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Vodka cooks out and is tasteless. Why is it in either recipe?

(Whether DH is just as good as a well-made scratch cake is another question.)

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strawberry0121 Posted 19 Sep 2006 , 2:58am
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I know the restaurant I work out makes an awsome Lobster vodka dish. I'll try to remember to ask the cook next weekend what the vodka contributes. He also use to do cakes in NY for competition, maybe he's heard of it.

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CakeRN Posted 19 Sep 2006 , 3:57am
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May have to try this recipe...have a whole bottle of kahlua....oh and some cream too...maybe a drink would be good at this point...too bad I am at work and not home.. icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

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newlywedws Posted 19 Sep 2006 , 4:07am
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Could it be the recipe should have listed a "White cocoa baking bar"?

I have heard of a company by name of "Santander" that makes them ($1icon_cool.gif

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