Crusting Buttercream?

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rajinaren Posted 28 Aug 2006 , 2:53pm
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What is crusting buttercream...i dont understand what it is? Can any one tell me crusting buttercream vs non crusting buttercream.

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MariaLovesCakes Posted 28 Aug 2006 , 3:29pm
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Crusting buttercream gets harder when it dries.... I won't be creamy and sticky to the touch. Its made with all Crisco or part Crisco and part butter.

Non crusting buttercream is the one that has all butter and therefore does not get hard. It stays soft.

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Elfie Posted 28 Aug 2006 , 4:05pm
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Why does buttercream crust with shortening and not butter? I can't figure it out. Is it the natural moisture in the butter? But wouldn't the liquid we add to the shortening negate that?

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mkerton Posted 28 Aug 2006 , 4:09pm
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the half shortening and half butter does crust, not sure what the chemistry of it is though...it just does it!

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TOMAY Posted 28 Aug 2006 , 4:13pm
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wheres Alton Brown when you need him ?
I would love to know the answer to this question

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CakeRN Posted 28 Aug 2006 , 4:55pm
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rajineran....do you know what crisco is? I saw an earlier post from you and thought you might not know that it is an American shortening but the brand name is called "Crisco". Americans fry things in it too, it melts over high heat also.

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rajinaren Posted 28 Aug 2006 , 6:59pm
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Hi sundine2
I know crisco since i took a class in wilton.

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we8cake Posted 28 Aug 2006 , 10:39pm
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I asked the same question. I would love to find a crusting buttercream recipe that uses butter, isn't so sweet but still provides a nice crust. I usually use all butter in my buttercreams but sometimes they become to soft in the heat. Any suggestions?

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patton78 Posted 28 Aug 2006 , 10:47pm
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The BC recipe I use with butter crusts really well.

1/2 cup crisco
1/2 cup butter, room temp but not mushy
4 cups PC
1 Tablespoon merangue powder
1 teaspoon vanilla or flavor of choice

Try this out, it tastes great and crusts, you can even use the Viva paper towel method with it.

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we8cake Posted 28 Aug 2006 , 10:55pm
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Thanks. I'll have to try that. I appreciate the recipe.

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patton78 Posted 28 Aug 2006 , 11:21pm
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we8cake

your welome, cute name! Where are you in Washington State? That is where I was born and raised.

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Tkeys Posted 28 Aug 2006 , 11:33pm
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I read somewhere that in non-US countries, you can substitute coconut fat for crisco (which is a more readily available vegetable shortening), and can make a buttercream that way that will crust.

Be careful, though - some people with nut allergies are also allergic to cocounut, and coconut fat . . . so be clear with people that your buttercream icing has coconut fat in it if you go that route.

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we8cake Posted 29 Aug 2006 , 1:21am
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I'm in Bellingham. Which is super close to the border.

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TexasSugar Posted 29 Aug 2006 , 3:36am
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A good example of a crusting buttercream is the Wilton recipe. I've heard of people that use butter and still have crusting buttercream though it may take longer to crust than with all shortening.

The sugar to fat ratio is what effects the crusting factor.

In the Wilton recipe you have 1 cup of fat (crisco/butter) to 1lb of powder sugar. If you do 1 cup of fat to 2lbs of powder sugar you will have an icing that is drier and crusts alot faster than the 1 cup to 1 lb.

When you get larger amounts of fat to sugar such as 2 or 3 cups of fat to 1lb of powder sugar you will get an icing that does not crust. The Whimsical House Buttercream is an good example of a buttercream that does not crust.

Your meringue icings also do not crust, such at the Italian Meringue or the Swiss Meringue icings do not crust either.

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we8cake Posted 29 Aug 2006 , 3:44am
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My problem with the 1 cup fat to 1 lb. powdered sugar is that I find the buttercream to sweet. I don't mean to be difficult. icon_biggrin.gif I was just wondering if I could find a recipe that has it all.
How does meringue powder affect the recipe?

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TexasSugar Posted 29 Aug 2006 , 3:57am
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Originally Posted by we8cake

My problem with the 1 cup fat to 1 lb. powdered sugar is that I find the buttercream to sweet. I don't mean to be difficult. icon_biggrin.gif I was just wondering if I could find a recipe that has it all.
How does meringue powder affect the recipe?




For less sweet then you may have to go for a non crusting icing. Many love the Whimsical Bakehouse or the IMBC because they are not as sweet as regular buttercream.

Some say adding salt helps cut the sweetness. I've also read some say that adding almond makes it less sweet. Try them and see what you think.

As far as meringue powder, it doesn't cut sweetness. It is said to help stablize icing and to help it crust but you can have a crusting icing with out it (try the Wilton Class Buttercream without it and it still crusts just fine). It's also said to help keep your darker colors from bleeding as fast. But adding meringue powder to a non crusting icing is not going to make it crust.

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CakeRN Posted 29 Aug 2006 , 3:59am
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we8cake,

The meringue pwdr helps with the crusting too.

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patton78 Posted 29 Aug 2006 , 11:03am
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Merangue powder is just a stabilizer. Crusting BC is always going to be pretty sweet, not much you can do. Are you adding a pinch of salt. This will bring out the vanilla flavor as well as help cut the sweetness.
The Whipped Cream Buttercream recipe from this site is really good and not too sweet, you should try it when you do not need a crusting buttercream.

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playingwithsugar Posted 29 Aug 2006 , 11:22am
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If you are going to use salt in your recipe, dissolve it in the liquid you add to the recipe, or you may end up with grittiness in your buttercream.

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aliekitn99 Posted 29 Aug 2006 , 11:30am
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I read some place that if you are going to be using violet / purple colors, salt can affect the color.

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