He Was Crying...at School!!!

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mmdd Posted 15 Aug 2006 , 4:18pm
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My 5 yo has been in Kind. for 4 days now.

He apparently was having a "bad day" as the principal called it.

I was at the health dept. with my 4 yo and had a funny feeling around the time this happened. I actually said aloud "Something doesn't feel right".

Well, my big boy was really missing his mommy & little brother. I don't know if he was crying that bad or exactly what he was doing. They tried the home phone, but I was gone. They called dh's cell, but he's 3 hrs away. They told him that they didn't have my cell. Huh? I know I put it on there, then I got to thinking...maybe I put dh's on there 2x....they're only 1 no. different!

So, dh called me & told me (and gave them my cell). He said he actually got to talk to our big boy. He just said he's missing us really badly.

The principal acted like it wasn't a big deal, it's normal. They just wanted to make us aware that he was having a bad day.

So....now, I'm sitting here, getting ready to start a bad habit, I've never done and bite my nails or something!!!!!!


I want to go & get him, but I know I can't.....right????? RIGHT????


Help me, please!! B/c I am missing him so much, too!!

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Doug Posted 15 Aug 2006 , 4:21pm
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right...leave him be...part of growing up.

for you: head to Hobby Lobby w/ that 50% off coupon (or whereever w/ coupon) and do a little shopping therapy.

and do something special w/ the 4yo

when do see the little man...don't let on you know...ASK him how his day was. if he volunteers he missed you, then tell him you missed him too but how PROUD you are he stayed in school and acted so grown up to stay there even though it was tough.

if volunteers he cried....affirm that as ok too.

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mmdd Posted 15 Aug 2006 , 4:58pm
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Well, I just found out that he has a bad temper at school. He doesn't want to do things and he gets mad & pouts.

He doesn't like it when the teacher shows him how to do something the right way if he's doing it the wrong way.

I just got off the phone with his teacher. She said that the aide sent him to the principals office. He got mad at something he didn't want to do and kicked the chairs & threw blocks!!! OMG!!!!!!!!!!


I would think that this should show him that they're not going to take any crap! Right?

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mmdd Posted 15 Aug 2006 , 5:05pm
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when do see the little man...don't let on you know...ASK him how his day was. if he volunteers he missed you, then tell him you missed him too but how PROUD you are he stayed in school and acted so grown up to stay there even though it was tough.

if volunteers he cried....affirm that as ok too.




Thank you for saying this!!! Great info.! thumbs_up.gif I would have babied all over him!!!!!


So...what do I do if he tells me he had a good day? And, acts like nothing went on??? Do I let him ignore this issue? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! I can feel the gray hairs!!!! LOL!

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Doug Posted 15 Aug 2006 , 5:11pm
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Well, I just found out that he has a bad temper at school. He doesn't want to do things and he gets mad & pouts.

He doesn't like it when the teacher shows him how to do something the right way if he's doing it the wrong way.

I just got off the phone with his teacher. She said that the aide sent him to the principals office. He got mad at something he didn't want to do and kicked the chairs & threw blocks!!! OMG!!!!!!!!!!


I would think that this should show him that they're not going to take any crap! Right?




only if you reenforce the lesson at home w/ grounding, time out, or whatever punishment works with him. This cannot be allowed to continue and he has to learn that throwing, kicking and pouting are BIG no-no's in schools and at home and in life too!



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So...what do I do if he tells me he had a good day? And, acts like nothing went on??? Do I let him ignore this issue? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! I can feel the gray hairs!!!! LOL!




you: "really, that's not what daddy and the (dum-dum-dum) principal told me! Why are you lying to mommy???? I heard.....

and for that.....(insert punishment)"

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mmdd Posted 15 Aug 2006 , 5:24pm
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LOL! I know you're a teacher, right? What grade???


He's thrown a huge fit a few times at home, got sent to time out immediately and privileges taken away. I think he's trying to push the teacher a bit to see how far they can be pushed.

Also, I know this whole experience is so NEW with him....how much time, Doug, do you think I should give him.......until he should know how to act.

Thanks for your help btw.

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Doug Posted 15 Aug 2006 , 5:28pm
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LOL! I know you're a teacher, right? What grade???




now starting 31st year, 2 years 4th grade, 1 yr university, 28 HS (and student taught 1st grade)

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He's thrown a huge fit a few times at home, got sent to time out immediately and privileges taken away. I think he's trying to push the teacher a bit to see how far they can be pushed.

Also, I know this whole experience is so NEW with him....how much time, Doug, do you think I should give him.......until he should know how to act.

Thanks for your help btw.




NO time...insist on proper behavior right away or else he'll just keep pushing it and thinking he can get away with it. ZERO tolerance for this kind of behavior. It wasn't an accident; those are entirely different stories. This was purposefull bad behavior.

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cakecre8tor Posted 15 Aug 2006 , 5:34pm
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Wow doug you got some great advice. My 5 yo just started Kindergarten today and I am a bit worried about her. She is such a sweet girl but has a speech delay thus putting her a bit behind her peers. So she get flustered easy and then acts out or pouts? Any advice?

MMDD Hang tough!! You'll get thru it! Doug is SMART!!!

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Doug Posted 15 Aug 2006 , 5:48pm
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Doug is SMART!!!




no, experienced and had a VERY savvy mommy himself (willful barely begins to describe me as a child!)

re: speech delay...depends upon type -- that's far more challenging than tantrums.

tell teacher about it, see if school has services to help. remind her that, as w/ many if not most speech delays, patience is the biggest fix.

(and prepare to rue the day you ever complained after she gets over it. my oldest niece talked WAY late, so late we were all worried it was something serious. then the "dam" broke....and the flood still (at 21) hasn't stopped! icon_rolleyes.gif)

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mmdd Posted 15 Aug 2006 , 5:52pm
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I thought Doug could pass for a drill sergeant, lol! I'm just joking!

My nieces are in the 3rd & 5th grade and they do things I can't believe!!!! Good things, I just mean.........Wow! Schools a lot different than when I went.....and that wasn't too long ago!!!


He's so eager to go in the mornings, he waits at the door to leave! I don't know if he's getting cranky or not. He goes to bed at 8:30 or not, and gets up at 6:30....on his own!!!

I know, I'm trying to make excuses for him!

Dh is thinking that if he can't behave, we won't let him play on the soccer team. That'd be a good punishment, but dag gone it, I done bought all of the stuff he needs! Ugh!

Oh, I don't know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for letting me vent!!!

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Doug Posted 15 Aug 2006 , 6:02pm
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He's so eager to go in the mornings, he waits at the door to leave! I don't know if he's getting cranky or not. He goes to bed at 8:30 or not, and gets up at 6:30....on his own!!!




does he get a nap at school?

what time of day was the melt-down?

lack of sleep makes ANYone crankly, let alone a 5-yr-old.

may still need an earlier bedtime if he's getting up that early!

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i'd try other things first before loosing soccer -- that can build discipline -- has to learn teamwork and teamwork is part of classroom too... Teacher is the coach and other students the team.

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mmdd Posted 16 Aug 2006 , 12:38am
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I've thought about doing an earlier bedtime. I've tried to keep him in bed longer in the mornings, but it wouldn't matter if he went to bed at midnight, he'd still get up at 6:30. He's just always been that way!


His first two soccer games were tonight. He was great! He surprised me so much as to how much of a team player he was, but... he kept yelling in the game, telling them which way to go if they were going the wrong way, etc. Not mean yelling, he was being helpful, but he was yelling....he was one of the two boys that got a soccer ball to iron on to his shirt b/c he did so good!!! Yay!!


Ok, after school...he denied EVERYTHING!!! Even about talking to his daddy, he flat out lied to me!!! I told him he would lose a privilege over that, I just wasnt sure of which one. Ugh!!! When's bedtime, I've been up since 5:30.

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BeckySue Posted 16 Aug 2006 , 1:48am
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Ok I need to jump in here - - I have a 7 year old that does the same thing. He started in Kindergarten too, now he is in 2nd grade and I have tried EVERYTHING to get him to behave at school. I have punished the bad, rewarded the good, taken away video games, promised McDonalds for a good day... blah blah blah Nothing seems to work. It just comes down to what he wants to do that day. He will be awesome one day and a beast the next... AHHHHHHHHHHH!

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Doug Posted 16 Aug 2006 , 2:00am
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old remedies for lying>>> soap, horseradish, hot sauce, and caster oil.

for that big of a lie, one privilege removed might not be enough.

and sure wouldn't put that soccer ball on his shirt -- and when coach asks why you as mom just pipe up nice and loud for coach, players and other parents to hear w/ he lied and lying is not good team work...so no ball. a little public embarassement never hurt...and if he asks why you embarassed him..just remind him of how he embarassed you w/ his tantrum.

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butterflyjuju Posted 16 Aug 2006 , 4:29am
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That last one Doug reminded me of what we do with my 4 yr old. All started when he was 2 and ran out into the road. He had to tell everyone in our family that we came in contact with. This includes those that go to church and those that call. Every one of them scolded him a bit. He hasn't got close to the road since without someone with him. Every so often he has to be subjected to this punishment but not a whole lot. Don't want to wear out what works...lol.

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mmdd Posted 16 Aug 2006 , 1:29pm
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I told him last night & reminded him this morning that he has NO CHOICE but to do what the teacher tells him to do.

I told him that while he did have the choice not to like everything at school (and that was ok), he needed to keep that to himself and go ahead and do it anyway.

I know he understands all of this...it's just a matter of him doing it.



We'll see how the day goes..........

He now knows what going to the principals office means.......he didn't know, but we thoroughly explained it to him!

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TOMAY Posted 17 Aug 2006 , 5:51pm
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HEY IF ALL THAT DOES NOT WORK !

I can not believe i am going to admit this but soap works !!!!!!!
my sweet 7 year old actually helped hold a little boy down last year while bigger boys beat him up icon_surprised.gif then stole this child glasses icon_eek.gif and hid them. Your situation is starting the same way mine did by the pouting and wining he learned by soft teachers sorry doug ( first year teachers) that he could push them luckly last year his teacher was the BEST and i mean the BEST she would call me in the middle of the class and place him on speaker for me to scold him if he acted up..... i sure am going to miss her icon_sad.gif but really we tried Ivory 99.9 % pure of all chemicals icon_wink.gif and it has worked on top of takwon do these boys are willful so stay strong even if he is snobing

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