Is "alice In Wonderland" Classed As A Fairytale?

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Delicate-Lee Posted 27 May 2007 , 11:16pm
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I need to make a cake with a fairytale theme in a few weeks... but i want to do something different and Alice in Wonderland is an idea I cant seem to give up or stop thinking about... Is this a fairytale? icon_redface.gif

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jendalain Posted 27 May 2007 , 11:44pm
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I believe so.

I found this link and some people agree and several disagree. Copy and paste the link to check out the debate.

http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/boardarchives/2003/dec2003/alice.html

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weirkd Posted 27 May 2007 , 11:53pm
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I think its a fairytale. Someone on acid...but a fairy tale! Mike from Mikes Amazing Cakes did a really awesome Alice in Wonderland Cake. It was so neat with the tea cups having faces in all.

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JanH Posted 28 May 2007 , 12:08am
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I don't think it's a fairy tale, it was written as political commentary, in the same vein as Watership Down, and Animal Farm.

JMHO

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weirkd Posted 28 May 2007 , 12:38am
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Well here we go!... dont need to go to link, we got our own debate going on right here!!
When I think of fairytales I think of mythical creatures like dragons, fairy's and a handsome prince that sweeps you away on his white horse (talk about your fairytales!)
Disney did it. So I dont think your that far off. I would go ahead and do it.

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prterrell Posted 28 May 2007 , 3:17pm
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Some think of it as one because it was a Disney movie.

BUT, it is NOT a classic fairytale. The classic ones are the ones written down by the Brothers Grimm and Hans Christian Anderson and were based on European folk tales and folk stories.

While many think of Alice in Wonderland as a children's story (much the same as they do with Gulliver's Travels) it was really written for adults and has very adult themes.

I, personally, would stick with the "classics" when doing a fairy-tale themed cake, UNLESS the customer specifically requested Alice in Wonderland. Afterall, there is so much from which to choose already!

Here are a few I remember from my childhood:
Cinderella
The Princess and the Pea
Snow White
Sleeping Beauty
Hansel and Gretel
Rapunzel
Tom Thumb
Thumbelina
The Bremen Town Musicians
Little Red Riding Hood
Rumpelstilzchen
The Twelve Dancing Princesses
King Thrushbeard
The Six Swans
The Little Mermaid
The Emperor's New Clothes
The Snow Queen
The Marsh King's Daughter

Here's a link to the over 100 Brothers Grimm tales:
http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~wbarker/fairies/grimm/
and the over 100 Hans Christian Anderson tales:
http://hca.gilead.org.il/

Also, you could dip (as Disney did for Aladdin) into The Thousand and One Arabian Nights:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_stories_within_The_Book_of_One_Thousand_and_One_Nights

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Delicate-Lee Posted 28 May 2007 , 10:42pm
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Thanks so much for all your help! you all have made my mind up... I didnt think it was a fairytale as such but i think i was just hopeing that most people would say it was as doing an alice in wonderland theme cake you could be so creative and i could have so much fun with coming up with an amazing design... At first I was going to do cinderella but Im sure there will be a few other people doing that one... Back to the drawing board! haha Thanks So much for your Help!!! I love everyones imput! I will keep you updated! icon_lol.gif

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lynda-bob Posted 29 May 2007 , 4:14am
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Jan H is right . However, insofar as "fairy tales" written by the Brother's Grimm and Hans Christian Anderson, those stories were not actually written for children originally, either. Have you ever read some of the original stories? They are down right weird and scary! (I loved them as a youngster; they were better than "scary" movies) It's only after Disney got a hold of them that we think of happy endings and cute little birds and mice icon_wink.gif I say you should do it if that's what is stuck in your heart and head. I know once I have something in my mind's eye, I have a hard time letting go. Then if I have to do something else, I'm never quite happy with the results... Just MHO. icon_smile.gif

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LisaMH Posted 29 May 2007 , 2:19pm
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Alice in Wonderland is owned by Disney...you need to read the forums on copyright infringement and steer clear of these type of cakes.

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Delicate-Lee Posted 30 May 2007 , 11:31pm
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This is for a cake competition in a few months and the theme is "magic from a fairytale"
This is a pretty serious competition and I want to make sure that my cake would be judged and not be disqualified if my theme of the cake isnt from a fairytale icon_redface.gif ... so to be safe then sorry I am going to leave Alice for another time haha
The little mermaid has caught my eye as again there are so many wonderful things I can do... I thought maybe do the cake in the shape of all rocks with all the mermaids and merman all around with the little mermaid and the prince getting married... sea theme decorations...um... its still on the drawing board as I know I can come up with something better haha
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prterrell Posted 31 May 2007 , 2:14am
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Originally Posted by LisaMH

Alice in Wonderland is owned by Disney...you need to read the forums on copyright infringement and steer clear of these type of cakes.




Well, if you do the cake so that the decorations look like the characters in the Disney cartoon, then, yes, you would not want to SELL that cake. BUT, Disney does not own the books themselves and you can still make a cake inspired by the books as long as the look of the characters is inspired only by the book and not the Disney movie.

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lynda-bob Posted 1 Jun 2007 , 3:52am
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pterrell:

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Well, if you do the cake so that the decorations look like the characters in the Disney cartoon, then, yes, you would not want to SELL that cake. BUT, Disney does not own the books themselves and you can still make a cake inspired by the books as long as the look of the characters is inspired only by the book and not the Disney movie.




I agree with this whole-heartedly thumbs_up.gif

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