Viva Towel Vs. Parchment Paper For Smoothing Icing

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babynewyear Posted 25 Jun 2006 , 12:29am
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Yes I think it need to be out at room temp. Other wise it gets sticky. I usually let it set until it feel like its starting to crust. Hope this helps icon_smile.gif

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jowhip Posted 25 Jun 2006 , 12:36am
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I read the posts on smoothing and everyone was talking about Viva and parchment/wax paper. But someone and I can't remember who mentioned the Pella interfacing at fabric stores for a $1.37 a yard. I went to walmart and bought some and tried it today on a cross that I am working on and it worked wonderful.thumbs_up.gif
Thanks for the tip. I am getting ready to frost a big sheet cake and am going to use the same method. I will post a pic later.
Thanks for all the wonderful ideas ladies and gents. icon_biggrin.gif

happy decorating
Jo

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luvbakin Posted 25 Jun 2006 , 1:01am
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Thanks. I didn't realize it had to be at room temp. I thought the fridge would help it crust and set. I've also used saran wrap (plastic wrap) and it worked well. I lay it on and use my finger to smooth out the wrinkle. Maybe that's better for touch ups.

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SheilaF Posted 25 Jun 2006 , 2:59am
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I don't put it in the fridge. Not sure if that made a difference or not. I just leave it out on the counter for 10-15 min till it's crusted over and then smooth it. I have not tried the viva towels yet though. I just use wax paper.

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jowhip Posted 25 Jun 2006 , 8:09am
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I just finished a cross and sheet cake, I didn't fridge either one and I used the pellon interfacing worked wonderful.

happy decorating

jo

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CrystalsCakes5 Posted 25 Jun 2006 , 1:44pm
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Hey guys,

When you use the viva method or wax and parchment, do you have to move the paper around on the cake?

Or say do you start with one piece and lay it on and smooth then remove then get another piece for any area that the first piece didnt cover and smooth there?

And when doing the sides do you like wrap it around on a round cake and smooth that area and keep moving around the cake?

Am I making any sense? Just was wondering about the steps in the technique.

Thanks everyone!!!

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jackfrost Posted 25 Jun 2006 , 2:05pm
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I just joined and I never heard of the Viva method for smoothing icing. I freeze my cakes for several hours before I ice them and always have spatula lines. tell me how to use this viva method. Thanks Sharon

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fmandds Posted 25 Jun 2006 , 2:08pm
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Jowhip, I'm glad it worked out for you! icon_biggrin.gif

CrystalsCakes, yes I have to move the paper towel around. I don't have to get a new one everytime though, just re-use the same one. You'll have to do this several times to get around the sides of a large cake. I hope I'm making sense now. Good luck.

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CrystalsCakes5 Posted 25 Jun 2006 , 2:19pm
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Thanks fmandds.

Yes that makes sense.

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fmandds Posted 25 Jun 2006 , 2:31pm
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I just joined and I never heard of the Viva method for smoothing icing. I freeze my cakes for several hours before I ice them and always have spatula lines. tell me how to use this viva method. Thanks Sharon




icon_lol.gif I had to laugh at your screen name after you said you freeze for several hours. You have to use a crusting recipe for your icing. Ice your cake then once it has sat about 10 minutes(in the summer here with the swamp cooler going I have to let it sit about 25 minutes before it crusts) or until it has started to crust. I check by lightly touching with my finger. If no icing sticks then its crusted. Then take a paper towel and lay it over the cake and smooth over the towel with the back of a spatula or a fondant smoother. Some folks even use their hands over the towel.

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dogluvr Posted 25 Jun 2006 , 4:33pm
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Whenever I use the viva towel method, I ice the cake and let it sit maybe 15 to 20 minutes to crust. I've never put in the fridge, but I do know you will have problems with the icing cracking if left too long before using the viva....

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pump_jc Posted 25 Jun 2006 , 4:39pm
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I've been using my Pampered Chef rolling pin to smooth out my icing. It's been working great. I just let it crust and then I roll the rolling pin over it lightly.

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cakesbykitty Posted 25 Jun 2006 , 9:00pm
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i love the idea of using a spatula over the viva... i never even thought of that! ihave just been laying the towel on and gently rubbing my fingers over it...but then i tend to push to hard and get little divets or dents... the spatula is brilliant!!!!!!!!! can't wait to do another cake and try it! ok, i admit it. i 'm addicted. icon_biggrin.gif

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Xtina31 Posted 25 Jun 2006 , 9:05pm
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I've found that the best way to really get buttercream smooth is to lightly spritz the cake with a water bottle and then smooth it with a damp spatula. It really make the cake glossy and smooth.

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twinsline7 Posted 25 Jun 2006 , 9:13pm
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ok...I must be oppsite of everyone here....because I tried and tried with the viva and couldnt do it...I tried with the spatulaa.....the only thing that DID work was to use the crusting bc...refrigerate it for a about 10 min and then viva it......it didnt stick at all!!! icon_confused.gificon_confused.gif

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dogluvr Posted 26 Jun 2006 , 2:21am
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yes, to use the viva towel method, you must use a crusting buttercream frosting so it won't stick to the towel.

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SheilaF Posted 26 Jun 2006 , 6:36am
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I use the fondant smoother instead of my fingers. It works great.

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Euphoriabakery Posted 26 Jun 2006 , 6:48am
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So is anyine here a Wilton instructor? Because I just became one and start my classes in a couple weeks. I am so scared to do the demo because I have never ever been able to make parchment paper work to smooth a cake, I always use Viva when I use crusting buttercream! How do you make the parchment not stick?

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cakesbykitty Posted 26 Jun 2006 , 7:15am
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I started with the parchment (as taught in the wilton class) and it worked, but not as good. just wait for it to crust, lay it on and gently smooth with your fingers.

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missyek Posted 26 Jun 2006 , 1:14pm
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So is anyine here a Wilton instructor? Because I just became one and start my classes in a couple weeks. I am so scared to do the demo because I have never ever been able to make parchment paper work to smooth a cake, I always use Viva when I use crusting buttercream! How do you make the parchment not stick?




Just make sure you do set your cake aside and let it crust for 10 minutes. If you have good air circulation (pretty much good air conditioning) it should crust nicely and the parchment should not stick. I think I have only had one instance where I had a tough time with the parchment sticking and that was because there was a problem with the AC. If you have problems with it sticking you can always blame it on the fact that the room is humid or too warm and then point out all the cases when the BC will not crust nicely and then some of the resolutions. It gets pretty humid where I live, so depending on the time of year, I will mention the spatula method, but I usually keep the Viva method under wraps (unless someone has a really tough time). I really try to stick to Wilton's instructions for classes, but I do let students know that there is a big cake world out there and do give them the link to this site along with many others.

Good luck with your first class. Don't let the parchment get you too nervous--have fun with it--laugh a lot. icon_biggrin.gif

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Euphoriabakery Posted 26 Jun 2006 , 2:58pm
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Thanks missyek for the encouragement!

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knj Posted 26 Jun 2006 , 4:09pm
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I want to try this method for my next Wilton class cake. Is the wilton recipe for buttercream a crusting buttercream recipe? Thanks I am new to all of this.

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Euphoriabakery Posted 26 Jun 2006 , 4:18pm
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Yes, the class buttercream is a crusting buttercream

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