Viva Is Sticking!!!!!!

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phdwife Posted 16 Jun 2006 , 10:44pm
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Help the viva paper towel keeps sticking to the cake. How can I make it crust faster or more?

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dydemus Posted 16 Jun 2006 , 10:46pm
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You just have to wait til it's a little drier. Unless there is too much liquid in your icing - is it buttercream? Then it won't ever really crust properly - I've done that one before. Probably just patience though icon_smile.gif.

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Kellie1583 Posted 16 Jun 2006 , 10:46pm
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I'm not sure if you can make it go faster, but the towels are sticking because it hasn't crusted enough. All I can say is that it needs to sit longer. Maybe someone else can be of more help!

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phdwife Posted 16 Jun 2006 , 10:47pm
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yes, I am using buttercream. I am using the Buttercream Dream recipe. Please don't tell me this recipe doesn't work with the VIVA method. I'll scream!

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phdwife Posted 16 Jun 2006 , 10:57pm
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Can anyone tell me what to do if the icing doesn't crust? I was supposed to do corneli lace on the cake. It is a cross cake for a baptism. I am using Lisa's Easter cross cake as a guide! icon_cry.gif

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klacrawford Posted 16 Jun 2006 , 11:01pm
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same thing has happened to me before- let it sit or pop it in the fridge for a few mins then try to smooth again. You may have to do a section at a time alternating with putting it in the fridge or letting it sit.

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pinkopossum Posted 16 Jun 2006 , 11:07pm
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Originally Posted by klacrawford

same thing has happened to me before- let it sit or pop it in the fridge for a few mins then try to smooth again. You may have to do a section at a time alternating with putting it in the fridge or letting it sit.




kla has got the right idea. I'd try keep trying this and hopefully that icing will crust up soon. best of luck.

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Rodneyck Posted 16 Jun 2006 , 11:08pm
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From my experience with the VIVA paper towel method, the drawback is that you have to use certain icings, those that contain a lot of sugar so it crusts (forms a hard shell.) I rarely make these types of buttercreams.

There is a recipe that accompanies the method;
http://www.cakecentral.com/cake_recipe-1597-1-Crusting_ButterCream_Faux_Fondant_II.html

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candyladyhelen Posted 16 Jun 2006 , 11:16pm
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Maybe try using the hot knife method instead. Just boil water, dip knife in and smooth.

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peg818 Posted 18 Jun 2006 , 8:53pm
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This is probably too late, but if your icing isn't crusting, what i do is lay a piece of wax paper over the sticky icing and smooth with my hand, i then pop the cake in the fridge until the icing is hard, then just peal the waxed paper off.

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QueLinda Posted 18 Jun 2006 , 10:59pm
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peg818,

does the wax paper really work? I've been having problems with my buttercream not crusting. Using the same recipe I've been using for years. Crisco/Butter Extract. Sometimes I know the humidity has something to do with it, but seems like the last 5 cakes I've iced have done this. I've sifted powdered sugar on the top and that helps, makes a big mess looks "okay".

Thanks for the tip, I will try it on the next cake that doesn't crust over.

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DeniseMarlaine Posted 19 Jun 2006 , 1:37am
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Originally Posted by candyladyhelen

Maybe try using the hot knife method instead. Just boil water, dip knife in and smooth.




I've used the Viva method for nearly every BC cake I've made. Today I used a chocolate BC recipe that wasn't crusting very well so I tried the hot knife method. It worked great! I rinsed my big angled spatula with hot hot water and it did a really nice job.

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peg818 Posted 19 Jun 2006 , 12:41pm
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Originally Posted by QueLinda

peg818,

does the wax paper really work? I've been having problems with my buttercream not crusting. Using the same recipe I've been using for years. Crisco/Butter Extract. Sometimes I know the humidity has something to do with it, but seems like the last 5 cakes I've iced have done this. I've sifted powdered sugar on the top and that helps, makes a big mess looks "okay".

Thanks for the tip, I will try it on the next cake that doesn't crust over.





It works for me, i use an icing that is mostly butter, and with the heat and humidity it doesn't always crust over. So i use the waxed paper method. I have hot knifed before, but i'm not very effecient (sp?) at it so it takes me forever.

If you are using a mostly crisco icing i would try it first on a cardboard or cake pan just to see if it will work for you.

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Mac Posted 19 Jun 2006 , 12:51pm
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phdwife--
What is the buttercream dream recipe? I sometimes use whipping cream in my buttercream instead of milk. Makes it lighter and fluffy. I can use Viva with it. Just have to let it sit for about 10 minutes.

ANd we have humidity here in Texas. I use the Viva method on all of my cakes. My BC recipe is all shortening with butter extract. You can try adding a bit of meringue powder to your frosting and see if that will help it to crust.

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phdwife Posted 20 Jun 2006 , 12:48pm
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Thanks everyone for all of your great advice. I just needed to let it sit a little longer to crust more. the paper towel then worked. The cake turned out alright!!! Thanks again, soooo much!
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