Help!!! How To Layer Or Torte A Sheet Cake?

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jguilbeau Posted 18 May 2006 , 5:41pm
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Help! Help! This is my first time making a 11x15 in. sheet cake. I want to put a layer of filling in the center by torting. I just tried and my cake totally fell apart icon_cry.gif . One thing I forgot to do was put it in the refrigerator before torting. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I need to rebake the cake and ice it this afternoon. I need help now!!!

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jguilbeau Posted 18 May 2006 , 5:55pm
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Help! Help! This is my first time making a 11x15 in. sheet cake. I want to put a layer of filling in the center by torting. I just tried and my cake totally fell apart icon_cry.gif . One thing I forgot to do was put it in the refrigerator before torting. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I need to rebake the cake and ice it this afternoon. I need help now!!!




I just read in another forum, that I could bake two layers. Instead of using two cake mixes per pan, bake each with one cake mix. Then put filling between layers. Do you think this would work?

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DeniseMarlaine Posted 18 May 2006 , 5:55pm
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I've thought about doing this but was afraid to try it. I hadn't heard about refrigerating it, but would like to hear more ideas too. Is it possible to gently slip a cake board in under the top half after cutting? But then, how the heck do you get the top layer back on straignt if you can't pick it up?

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DeniseMarlaine Posted 18 May 2006 , 5:57pm
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I think the 2 cake idea still leaves you with the problem of getting the top layer on the cake properly.

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jguilbeau Posted 18 May 2006 , 6:00pm
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I've thought about doing this but was afraid to try it. I hadn't heard about refrigerating it, but would like to hear more ideas too. Is it possible to gently slip a cake board in under the top half after cutting? But then, how the heck do you get the top layer back on straignt if you can't pick it up?




I tried to slide a board between the torted layers, but the cake was sticking and split and crumbled. Like you asked how on earth do you put this thin layer on top of the bottom layer after filling. Well I guess I am learning the hard way. I still have a huge mess in my kitchen right now, with crumbled cake falling on the table and floor. I guess when this is over I will have a good laugh icon_biggrin.gif But right now I still want to cry icon_cry.gif

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jguilbeau Posted 18 May 2006 , 6:02pm
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I think the 2 cake idea still leaves you with the problem of getting the top layer on the cake properly.



Yeah, but I figured at least I will have a crust on top and bottom and it will be stronger. Easier to slide on to the bottom layer.

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DeniseMarlaine Posted 18 May 2006 , 6:06pm
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Okay, that makes sense. Maybe you could dust your cake board with powdered sugar or something so the top layer would sort of slide onto the bottom. BTW, for all that crumbled cake on the table (maybe not the floor, though), check out the recipes for Cake Balls (or maybe we're calling them Cake Bites now???).

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chefdot Posted 18 May 2006 , 6:07pm
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I cut mine using fishing wire then slide one of those plastic type cake board in between and gently slide the cake on it but keep it hanging off a little so it's easy to get back on the cake... once filled then i take the part of the cake that's hanging off the edge and line it up with where i want it and gently slide the board out from under the cake. sometime it will bump your filling, but my cake stays in one piece... this took alot of practice before i got it down.

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gilson6 Posted 18 May 2006 , 6:08pm
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I have the top layer "off" the board a little, put it on the edge of the cake where you want it to rest and then slide the board out from under the cake. You just slightly hold it off the bottom layer. It scrapes just a little on the bottom layer but not enough to harm it. If you do it slowly and carefully it should work.

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DeniseMarlaine Posted 18 May 2006 , 6:09pm
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Thank you Chefdot. I think the key will be to keep a bit hanging off. Great idea!

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jguilbeau Posted 18 May 2006 , 6:14pm
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Thanks for the suggestion for the cake balls. I was able to save most of the crumbled cake. I have a graduation party at church that I needed to bring a finger food. The cake balls will work perfectly.
By the way I like your signature quote. Especially at this moment.

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chefdot Posted 18 May 2006 , 6:15pm
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no prob! let us know how it works out. icon_surprised.gif)

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jguilbeau Posted 18 May 2006 , 6:16pm
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Thanks for all the suggestions. I am going to finish cleaning up my mess, and start baking again, two layers this time.

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kay52178 Posted 18 May 2006 , 6:18pm
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Do you have a flat nonstick cookie sheet (no sides)? I've used that before instead of the cake board and it worked great.

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Samsgranny Posted 18 May 2006 , 6:47pm
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Yes, I use a cookie sheet and it really works! Best of luck to you.

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egarman Posted 18 May 2006 , 6:56pm
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When I tort, no matter what kind of cake it is, I take a piece of parchment paper and tape it (somethings it doesn't stay!) to a cake board/circle. Then I slip that in between the layers. Usuallly that layer just slides off when I put it back on top of the filled layer. Hope this helps. Ellen

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jguilbeau Posted 19 May 2006 , 3:46am
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Do you have a flat nonstick cookie sheet (no sides)? I've used that before instead of the cake board and it worked great.



I think I am going to put that on my wish list.

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jguilbeau Posted 20 May 2006 , 1:43pm
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Help! Help! This is my first time making a 11x15 in. sheet cake. I want to put a layer of filling in the center by torting. I just tried and my cake totally fell apart icon_cry.gif . One thing I forgot to do was put it in the refrigerator before torting. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I need to rebake the cake and ice it this afternoon. I need help now!!!



Well I finished my cake. I have attached pictures. Thanks for all your help!!!
LL

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CarolAnn Posted 20 May 2006 , 1:54pm
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I like to freeze the layer of the cake I'm going to be stacking, just to give it enough rigidity to handle more easily. just a thought. I had one flip and break once so I'm super cautious now. Ü

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paxpuella Posted 20 May 2006 , 2:03pm
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Wow !! Your cake turned out very pretty. I love the color of the blue icing and the way the water falls down to the other cake. Very Pretty !!!

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candyladyhelen Posted 20 May 2006 , 4:49pm
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When I do a sheet cake, I use the Wilton cutter to cut the cake. But first, I prepare a cookie sheet (the kind that is completely flat) & spray front & back with Pam. I have a bag of frosting ready to pipe the filling & then I cut the cake, immediately push the cookie sheet between the layers, leave a bit hang over. Quickly fill, then position the bit that's hanging over with the bottom cake, then just gently slide the cake off onto the bottom layer.
For my large tiered wedding cakes, I do bake two layers & then put the filling inbetween.

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SarahJane Posted 20 May 2006 , 5:57pm
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I always bake two cakes and fill. Torting these is really hard.

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Jenn123 Posted 20 May 2006 , 6:56pm
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Your cake turned out nice!

For future reference:
Bake 2 cakes in those short 1" sheet pans. Fill or ice one top. Cut around the edges to be sure they are not stuck. Lay the 2 pans side by side. Put one hand under each pan so it tilts down to the middle (like a book with the spine on the table). Quickly, but gently "close the book" and then lay it down on the table. Take off the top pan, add your board and flip it over. Remove the other pan and you are ready!

If you torte the cake instead, I highly recommend freezing it first.

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bigcatz Posted 20 May 2006 , 7:57pm
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I sometimes use my cookie sheet without sides to torte, it usually works ok for me. I prefer to cut the top layer in two and then place the two (one at a time) onto the bottom layer after putting on the filling. This method is a lot easier for me. Hope that helps for future reference.

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rlm5150 Posted 22 May 2006 , 12:16pm
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It may be a little more work, but I cooked half the batter at one time and then the other half. You come out with two thinseperate layers. I just did this with the grad gake I made yesterday.

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lilthorner Posted 22 May 2006 , 4:45pm
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I cut mine using fishing wire then ...




fishing wire.. i will have to try that

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lilthorner Posted 22 May 2006 , 4:46pm
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Do you have a flat nonstick cookie sheet (no sides)? I've used that before instead of the cake board and it worked great.




I may need to get one of those LOL

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