ok I need advise I just got off the phone with my sons asst tiger cub leader and she tells me she will be takeing over the Den this june when they move up to wolves and that she is takeing anther mom on as her assist my issue is i cant stand this other mom she makes me dread comming to meeting she is bossy and rude she has a tendency to grab ahold of the children and scold them when it has not at all be her place to deal with the kids at all so as a parent there like everyone else she has been a real problem she and I have had heated discusions several times about the way she talks to my child she has even tried to put my 3 year old in time out for being too nosy when i was busy with something else (unforgivable I know) and now im told she is going to be the assist leader just because our new leader who is 23 years old is her friend so what do I do I dont feel its fair to pull my son out of the organization just because I do not feel its safe to leave him with this person and i tried to talk to the new den leader about it and her response was well if your son wants to stay then great but if you choose to pull him out then I dont really care ( how mature is that right?) so if this was your son and your group what would you do?
If you really don't think you can handle this person, go to a different pack. Even in small communities you can typically find a handful of packs. There's too much going on in scouts (campouts, etc) to have to deal with people you don't like. I used to be on a District Council and trust me, life is easier if you have a group that's enjoyable.
actually lanac there is only the one pack in this town they tried to start a new pack when the new school opened (the shcool my son goes to) but it fell through my only ray of hope is that if enough boys sign up this pack will have two wolf cub dens within the pack but even then I would have to deal with this women and its not that I cant deal with her if it was just that shes a witch I would just ignore her but I dont think she is a person who is fit to be in charge of children and there is no selection process anybody can be a leader so I guess in the long run we will be pulling out of cub scouts I just cant leave my son with someone I dont trust. I just wish there was something I could do because cub scouts is a really good organization and my son will be missing out on some great things if there were to be the right people in charge.
Get out there and start helping your boy earn his recruitment badge lol. Who is the pack leader? If the den leaders aren't trained and aren't competent, then the pack leader is the way to go. It's also quite the commitment, so perhaps the icky one will find that she doesn't have the time. Good luck.
Thanks lanaC my son is actually being recruted from a tiger into a wolf unfortanatly the whole group is moving up and thats what this leader will be in charge of I wish she would see it as too much of a time constraint but shes one of those women who use things like this to make herslef feel important because she has little else in her life so I dont think she will drop out this is the same women who through a fit because i brought left over cupcakes to a meeting when it was her turn to bring cupcakes she actually through mine out when i wasnt paying attention she later told our pack leader that if i was going to bring a cake to the mandatory cake aucton then she wasnt going to bring one because she didnt want to have to compete with me (keep in mind this was a cake to be made mostly by the boys the sponge bob one in my photos) shes just a really imature bad example for the boys I can go on and on with the stuff that she has pulled including putting a bruise on my sons back from poking him so hard when he was playing with a balloon she wanted him to put down.
Is there another town near you that might have a group?
I wouldn't have my child in anything if one if the people in charge was leaving marks on children even if there was no other option.
I don't know much about scouts but do they have someone in charge of these people? If so I'd call and let them know of your concerns.
oh gosh i didnt even get that at first I see now get his friends in there then we could split the den and over run the icky women not a bad idea at all. im actually thinking of voluntering to be the den leader if one gets split that way i know the boys are haveing a postive experience.
If you have ANY concerns whatsoever about a den leader/assistant den leader then it needs to be brought to the attention of the Cubmaster. This is the person who controls everything in the pack. If you get nowhere with this person then take it up the chain of command. Cub scouts can be a wonderful, positive experience for the boys with the right leadership. If you have any questions, just holler. Our family is really into scouts and I can probably answer any questions you might have.
I would take my concerns to the cub master but it would be my word over her and since she is best friends with the new den leader I honestly dont think it would do any good I guess im the only one that see's how she treats the kids and disrespects the parents as a problem maybe most people just want to go about there day and not bother with her but I just dont trust her call it a gut feeling and back that up with some of the things she has pulled and there is no way im leaving my child anywhere where she is in charge nor am i going to go along with him and spend the hour trying not to set her straight right now im crossing my fingers for more kids to sign up so the group would be split and I would only have to deal with her at pack meetings but if that does not happen then we are done with cub scouts.
How many boys are in the den? Are you the only who feels this way?
If you are not the only one who feels this way, then you need to talk to the other parents who have expressed displeasure in this person and break off into another den.
We did this and have been so please with the result. We may have only four boys in our den but we are happy and most important our boys are happy.
Step up and be a leader, you wont regret it.
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