Everclear

Decorating By Kitagrl Updated 19 Apr 2007 , 4:06am by Kitagrl

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marthajo1 Posted 18 Apr 2007 , 12:02am
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I think it is more the fact that maybe....someone would see her go into the store and be like oh it is okay fo rher to have a drink it must be okay for me too. Scripturally speaking she is called to not be a stumbling block. Meaning she would not want to do something that while in itself would not be bad (buying a small amount of alcohol to accent a non-edible part of a cake) might cause someone to emulate the assumed behavior (buying alcohol to have with dinner or get drunk on.) My dad is a Pastor and he will not drink if he is out to eat at a restaurant for this reason. For him it would not be a problem but the alcoholic who knows his "job" might justify his own behavior.... sort of. HTH

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crislen Posted 18 Apr 2007 , 12:04am
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Ahh...

That definitely makes sense!!

Thank you for answering my question marthajo1! I'm always intrigued by other people's religion and culture. icon_rolleyes.gif Learning about them makes life interesting and gives food for thought!

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princesscris Posted 18 Apr 2007 , 12:05am
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Sorry - can't work how to quote from a message on the previous page, but this is in response to the question can rose essence be sent mail order by Kitagirl (I think).

Yes, it can - I ordered some from an online store in South Australia and it arrived with no problems. But, not sure it would be worth paying the shipping to the US though. Maybe wait until the Aussie dollar drops again icon_rolleyes.gif

Cris.

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marthajo1 Posted 18 Apr 2007 , 12:09am
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Princesscris- RE: quoting If you find the post you want to quote you can click on the "quote button in the top right corner of the post and it will open up the preview page with your quote and you can then add to the post/reply. Good luck!

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Kitagrl Posted 18 Apr 2007 , 12:10am
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Sorry - can't work how to quote from a message on the previous page, but this is in response to the question can rose essence be sent mail order by Kitagirl (I think).

Yes, it can - I ordered some from an online store in South Australia and it arrived with no problems. But, not sure it would be worth paying the shipping to the US though. Maybe wait until the Aussie dollar drops again icon_rolleyes.gif

Cris.




If you could PM me the link of where you got it, that would be great!

I've ordered pet meds from australia before and it was extremely cost effective...don't know about cake stuff though haha.

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mbelgard Posted 18 Apr 2007 , 12:11am
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$5 a year? Hell I have a bottle that was bought atleast 3 years ago and it is still about half full.

When I have friends over to drink they always think it is funny that I tell them they can not have my everclear. They are allowed to have anything else in the cabinet, but the everclear is for cakes only in my house!




You sound like me. The everclear is with the cake stuff and I don't share well. When my brother came for the weekend I wouldn't tell him where I had it so he couldn't steal any, I shared the vodka and stuff. icon_lol.gif

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heiser73 Posted 18 Apr 2007 , 12:25am
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Why not just use lemon extract? I just took a demo class with Colette Peters and that is all she uses. She says the oil from the lemon extract helps with something, can't remember exactly whaticon_smile.gif But also, PA doesn't sell everclear and it is illegal to have it in PA as well. Some cake decorators still get it and use it, but why not save the trouble and just use lemon extract?

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Kitagrl Posted 18 Apr 2007 , 12:32am
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Why not just use lemon extract? I just took a demo class with and that is all she uses. She says the oil from the lemon extract helps with something, can't remember exactly whaticon_smile.gif But also, PA doesn't sell everclear and it is illegal to have it in PA as well. Some cake decorators still get it and use it, but why not save the trouble and just use lemon extract?




Well...I do, of course, use lemon or also mint. I was just concerned how much it flavored the cake, esp over large areas. Not that it matters...but that rose essence might be milder for that. Also I have been having problems with my airbrush not spraying the luster dust well and I have to figure out if my airbrush needs a part replaced or if one of the extracts I use is not working well.

My whole point in the thread was that I just was wondering why cake supply places do not sell an alcohol "paint base" to sell along with the luster dust...not to start a controversy. icon_smile.gif

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vixterfsu Posted 18 Apr 2007 , 12:37am
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GOD, I would kill for a bottle of that. Like to soak cherries in them and then light them. Old college thing. Yeah, I guess sending it would be be illegal seeing that it is 190 proof almost. I guess a road trip to Louisianna is in order.

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heiser73 Posted 18 Apr 2007 , 1:51am
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Well...I do, of course, use lemon or also mint. I was just concerned how much it flavored the cake, esp over large areas. Not that it matters...but that rose essence might be milder for that. Also I have been having problems with my airbrush not spraying the Luster Dust well and I have to figure out if my airbrush needs a part replaced or if one of the extracts I use is not working well.

My whole point in the thread was that I just was wondering why cake supply places do not sell an alcohol "paint base" to sell along with the Luster Dust...not to start a controversy.




I'm sorry, I guess I wasn't clear on what you were askingicon_smile.gif And you're right, it would be nice if they sold something to use with the luster dust at the cake stores that was tasteless. I have only painted with luster dust a few times in small amounts, but you are right the lemon extract probably does change the taste, I've never thought about that. Okay sorry about the confusion!

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ShirleyW Posted 18 Apr 2007 , 3:58am
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My whole point in the thread was that I just was wondering why cake supply places do not sell an alcohol "paint base" to sell along with the ...not to start a controversy. icon_smile.gif




Uh Oh, I received a pm from another member scolding me for hurting your feelings Kitagrl and if I did I owe you a very big apology. I would never criticize or ridicule anyone's religious beliefs and I assure you that was not what I meant by my post at all. We have members here on CC of every faith, and belief, I am sure. Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Jew, etc. and probably many of no particular affiliation at all. I have read and re- read your originial post and feel the need to explain myself and my thoughts when I responded to your post. It truly had nothing to do with anyone's faith or beliefs as to what I was thinking. What I see in your original questions was that even though you personally feel uncomfortable going into a liquor store, it seemed to me you were saying you didn't object to using the product Everclear. So what I feel (or thought) you were saying was that you wished they would sell it in a different type of store, in a different packaging. I was, and still am confused by that. I guess I don't see the difference. If you wish to use ths product as a way of painting gumpaste, not as a means of consuming an alcoholic beverage, that I can understand, what I didn't see was why it would be any different to buy it in another type of store or another form of packaging, it would still be an alcoholic beverage. As such, and because you don't feel comfortable doing that, I just think there are alternatives that you could use in it's place rather than thinking a company should change where or how it sells it. I didn't in any way mean that as a disparaging comment about your religious beliefs. When I said I thought it was silly, I meant that I felt it didn't make sense to say you would buy or use the same product if it were available in a different place or packaging. So, again, if I hurt your feelings I am sorry.

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Kitagrl Posted 18 Apr 2007 , 4:05am
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I'm not hurt at all, I just didn't want it to be a sudden free for all about how silly I was being. icon_smile.gif (As there was another post right after yours commenting on how humorous the thread was). I wasn't mad at you though, you've been a help to me in the past and I know you don't feel well today.

My thing was I would like to somehow find a tasteless alcohol to use for painting because sometimes I am afraid the lemon or mint is going to make my cake taste weird for the customer. Its not that I really wanted to buy Everclear itself (anyway its illegal here in PA), but rather was wishing that something similar (tasteless high alcohol base) would be sold from cake supply stores. Others were suggesting I have someone else buy it for me, etc...which I would not do. I could get vodka where I work doing cakes...but I won't do that either. I don't expect you all to understand.... I'm fine with a smile and a shake of the head like the people I work with do for me, and we get along just fine. icon_smile.gif

I guess its just frustrating that I can buy 80% alcohol that tastes like lemon or 90% alcohol that tastes like mint (in a grocery store, which here in PA grocery stores do not sell liquor) but yet the grocery store or cake supply cannot sell a vial of tasteless alcohol for the use of painting cakes. Just makes no sense to me...except that probably they just assume vodka is very much available so there is no need. *shrugs*

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thecakemaven Posted 18 Apr 2007 , 4:17am
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You can buy little 1 oz (single shot) bottle of vodka in many convenience stores that sell alcohol. But I think cake deco shops don't sell it because rules governing the sale of alcohol and because of potential liability. Extracts are not considered alcoholic beverages because they cannot be consumed as a drink, just as cooking wine (wine with salt added) and rubbing alcohol can be sold to minors because it is unusable as a beverage.

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Kitagrl Posted 19 Apr 2007 , 4:06am
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Sorry - can't work how to quote from a message on the previous page, but this is in response to the question can rose essence be sent mail order by Kitagirl (I think).

Yes, it can - I ordered some from an online store in South Australia and it arrived with no problems. But, not sure it would be worth paying the shipping to the US though. Maybe wait until the Aussie dollar drops again icon_rolleyes.gif

Cris.



If you could PM me the link of where you got it, that would be great!

I've ordered pet meds from australia before and it was extremely cost effective...don't know about cake stuff though haha.




Hey I looked up that link and they seem like they have cool stuff! And the rose essence is something like 95% alcohol and they said they put just enough rose in it to make it legal there or something. Anyway it looks like its the "cake decorators alcohol" I was looking for! (Also they seem to have a real cool edible gold or silver pen I want to look into as well)... I emailed them to ask about the best way to go about an international order... I hope it works out to order from them. Seems like some of the European type cake places have some cool stuff not available in the USA.

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