One More Dowelling Question-- Advice Needed Please!

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elvis Posted 28 Mar 2006 , 2:25pm
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I am still figuring this doweling thing out. I'm planning on dowelling a 4-5 layer, 14 inch round cake. I'm not using a cake board except for at the very bottom.

Does the dowel rod need to be sharpened and driven through the cake board at the bottom? Or does simply pushing a dowel through all of the layers until it meets the bottom cake board do enough to prevent slippage? I read the tutorial on this site but it was describing a different type of cake. Please help! :O) Thanks.

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adven68 Posted 28 Mar 2006 , 3:12pm
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It should go through all the layers to meet the one at the bottom. The function of this dowel is to keep the tiers from shifting. But, what are you using on each tier, if not a cake board?

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mmdd Posted 28 Mar 2006 , 3:20pm
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You need a board under each cake. The dowel does need to be sharpened to go through all of these boards. The central dowel needs to go through all of the cakes to the bottom of the bottom cake.

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elvis Posted 28 Mar 2006 , 3:21pm
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I was debating whether I needed to dowel at all and had posted a question on this yesterday... enough people told me that I should to prevent from sliding during transport. Its just a four or five layer cake (no need for cake boards), but since they are 14 inch round layers, I thought dowelling was necessary. I've never done a 14 inch round before.

What would you do?

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KittisKakes Posted 28 Mar 2006 , 3:25pm
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Some confusion - are you doing a 14" cake that will have 4-5 layers? I'd suggest a board in between the top two layers and the bottom two - In other words- 2 layers, then a board, then the bottom two layers, then your base board. That's a heavy cake to not have any support in it. The center dowel - I usually sharpen it and put it through the base board also. That's mainly so when I transport it, it doesn't slide off the cake base.

And still have dowels in the bottom half to support the top half

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mmdd Posted 28 Mar 2006 , 3:32pm
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I definitely would suggest doweling. Are you saying that this is going to be a 4 - 5 layer 14" round cake? Are you torting it? Or is it just going to be 4 - 5 layers?

I would not like the idea of a cake board in the middle there somewhere if someone was going to cut a slice to have that many layers in it. But, one 14" cake is heavy by itself, so I think I'd put a board in there somewhere.

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elvis Posted 28 Mar 2006 , 3:34pm
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That's right, 14 inch cake which will be 4 or 5 layers tall. I am used to doing this many layers for a 9 or 12 inch cake but for 14 inch, wasn't sure what kind of support I needed from a dowel, if any.

Is a dowel pointless unless there are cake boards to run it through?

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mmdd Posted 28 Mar 2006 , 3:37pm
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Do you usually dowel the 9" and 12" cakes that you make? I think I would put a few dowels in it. I've even doweled a 12" cake before...it was only 2 layers, but it was for a wedding and I wasn't taking ANY chances. Good Luck!

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KittisKakes Posted 28 Mar 2006 , 3:38pm
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Is a dowel pointless unless there are cake boards to run it through?



No. Alot of people use them for support in tall cakes, such as sculpted cakes. I guess you need to look at how thick each individual layer is. If they are 2" each and you do 4 layers plus filling, you've got a cake that is at least 9" tall. The dowels will just help it to stand up, without sliding. Like I said, when I transport something like that, I like to have it go through the base board also. That's just me though.

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elvis Posted 28 Mar 2006 , 3:51pm
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Thanks so much for all the advice. I've never had problems with my 9 and 12 inch round cakes which are both 5 layers with filling. (My layers are a little thinner than what you may be thinking)-- but still, I may have just been lucky so far!

I may have to rethink the number of layers-- since I would probably rather the hostess be able to cut the cake all the way through without hitting a cake board. Maybe I'll do a 14 round with fewer layers and top with a smaller cake on top (dowel beneath it)--

I'm just rambling now.... thanks again for the insight and I'd love to hear from anyone else who has an opinion on this- thanks!!

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adven68 Posted 28 Mar 2006 , 7:12pm
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Forgive me, I thought you meant 4-5 tiers....I didn't realize it was one cake with 4-5 layers. (Even though that's what you said) icon_confused.gif

I wouldn't dowel a single cake...and I wouldn't put a cake board in the middle of it either. Just let it settle for a while after you fill it, and then frost the outside. That way, it won't bulge. icon_biggrin.gif

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golfgirl1227 Posted 28 Mar 2006 , 7:42pm
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I would just make the cake like you were planning to, stick a dowel in the center (cut to size, not sharpened) and call it a day. How far is this cake traveling? I probably wouldn't even put the dowel in the center (unless it's travling a long way), but that's just me.

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elvis Posted 28 Mar 2006 , 8:07pm
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Thanks again everybody! Ya'll are so helpful. I actually did wind up calling two bakeries to ask their opinion today too-- they voted for doing nothing(just like some of you suggested) since I'm not putting anything on top. I'll probably go a little thinner on my layers and filling to be on the safe side. I guess everybody has their own way-- I'm sure it'll work out, but if not, you'll see my posting under cake disasters!! :O) Thanks.

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