ALERT!!TWO WEEKS AGO WE WANTED TO BUY A CANON CAMERA FILM VIDEO FOR MY SON,AND WE BID FOR THIS CAMERA AND WE WOON!!!!!!!!BUT THEY STOLE OUR MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!$800.00DLLS I AM SO ANGRY I ALREADY REPORT THIS PERSON WITH EBAY AND THE POLICE,BECAUSE IS NOT FEAR,THIS IS NOT MY FIRST TIME BUYING THERE,I BOUGHT NY AURBRUSH,AND FEW THINGS MORA AND EVERITHING IT WAS FINE UNTIL TWO WEEKS AGO.I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU THE LOGIN ID PERSON SO THAT WAY YOU CAN SEE WHEN YOU BUY SOMETHING FROM EBAY,THAT THIS PERSON DON'T DO THE SAME WITH YOU.HER OR HIS LOGIN IS the247enigma. and the e-mail is [email protected] PLEASE BE AWARE I DON'T WANT THAT OTHER PERSON PASSTROUGH THE SAME AS WE.TGANK YOU.
Where are you located? When this happened to my son (who is a COMPLETE computer freak and VERY experienced E-Bay seller and buyer), he notified E-Bay, however they don't have to do anything about it for awhile (could be up to 60 days) and you only HAVE so many days (30 days) to act on this person if E-Bay dosen't follow through. So he contacted the FBI and made a report. Amazing how much faster things happen when they get involved! Not only did he get his money back, E-Bay actually followed through and banned him! However, he did CONSTANTLY email the Special Agent in charge of the case and he had all the emails and paperwork (and then some!!) they could possibly have needed! If you think he might be able to give you some helpful tips with this, please PM me and I'll do my best to hook you up with him.
Good Luck!! ![]()
Just on a side note for anyone purchasing items on eBay. I think when making purchases on eBay, you should use Paypal especially if it's a large purchase. The Paypal policy is that if your item was never sent to you, you get your $ back...no questions asked, no calls to make, no hassle. I've had to do this a couple of times and once for a $750 item. No problems. Paypal refunded my $ within days of me having reported that I never received it.
I hope it's just a misunderstanding. I looked him up and he has over 10,000 auctions with a 99.6% positive feedback. Seems odd that he would screw up a good record. Good luck to you. Hope you get things settled. And like Lisa said, "Paypal is our friend!"
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Do NOT be patient and nice, though! I waited 60 days for delivery and through several "I'll send it tomorrow" e-mails from the seller, and then on the 61st day decided enough was enough -- but despite the fact that there had been many holidays in the intervening 60 days, BOTH Ebay AND PayPal refused to do anything. Be VERY careful with how many days you have to do what. In fact, EBay wouldn't even let me leave negative feedback for her at first until I complained repeatedly. Fortunately the item was only about $30, but $30 is $30 and it was supposed to be a Christmas present... ![]()
Do NOT be patient and nice, though! I waited 60 days for delivery and through several "I'll send it tomorrow" e-mails from the seller, and then on the 61st day decided enough was enough -- but despite the fact that there had been many holidays in the intervening 60 days, BOTH Ebay AND PayPal refused to do anything. Be VERY careful with how many days you have to do what. In fact, EBay wouldn't even let me leave negative feedback for her at first until I complained repeatedly. Fortunately the item was only about $30, but $30 is $30 and it was supposed to be a Christmas present...
60 days is a very long time to wait. How awful for you. It's almost better to have the seller ignore your emails than to have them string you along like that. For anyone having similar problems, you'll want to remember two numbers 45 and 90.
If you didn't receive your item or your item wasn't as described (including damaged or broken), you must file through Paypal within 45 days of the day you paid for the item. Just remember that no matter what the seller tells you, file a claim with Paypal before your 45 days expire.
You have 90 days to leave FB for an item.
Thought I'd also add that you won't want to rely on the eBay purchase protection which has many limitations and only reimburses buyers up to $175. If you purchased an item that cost $800 through eBay, the most you could recover through eBay would be $175 ![]()
Paypal on the other hand is such an advocate for buyers that it puts sellers in jeopardy. I love using Paypal to buy but dislike using it to sell. I have issues with many of their buyer protection policies because of the impact they have on me when I sell an item. For example:
If the address Paypal sends me with the payment in unconfirmed (common with int'l bidders) and I ship to it, the buyer can file a claim and get their $ back.
If I don't add tracking/DC to the package and the buyer files a claim, they get their $ back.
If I don't insure a package (at the request of the buyer who doesn't want to pay for it) and the package doesn't arrive or arrives damaged, the buyer gets their $ back.
If I sell an item that is pick-up only (ie furniture) and the buyer pays through Paypal and then files a claim, they get their $ back.
Luckily I've never had a claim filed against me but the thought of the system being manipulated is a concern. The only people who pay for Paypal are sellers and the fees are quite high considering it's just a means of receiving payment. You'd think the protection would be more on the side of the seller but it isn't. Great news for buyers though
As a seller who uses Paypal, I only ship to confirmed addresses and return the payment if the address can't be confirmed (money order instead). I add tracking and insurance to all of my packages and I don't take Paypal for pick-up items.
$800!!??!! What kind of camera was it?
I looked up the seller too and thoguht the same thing...I thoguht maybe they just shipped late...then I found it odd that they would ruin their rep over one item....but then I read their negatives...21 which had been "retracted"....and they are awful rude in their response to the negative!!...they even called one a
...well I'll leave that word out
............and in their store they only have 1 item!!??
I would file what ever it is you need to...and hopefully you did use Paypal so you can get your money back......then I'd go to Best buy ![]()
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THANK ALL FOR YOUR ADVICES,I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW CAN CONTACT THE FBI AND HOW MUCH DOES THEY CHARGE,I ALREADY REPORT THIS PERSON TO E-BAY,I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GET OUR MONEY BACK AND I HOPE E-BASY WILL DO SOMETHING WITH THIS PERSON.
Honestly Nejiad, I don't think the FBI will be able to help you with this. People get ripped off on eBay all the time and unless we're talking career criminal, huge sums of $, illegal merchandise or threats to nat'l security, an eBay transaction isn't going to get their attention. I would proceed with the eBay resolution process (unless you used Paypal) and see what comes of it. It's been 2 weeks which seems like a long time but a seller is allowed (although not encouraged) 30 days to ship your item to you. After you've exhausted all other means including calling your credit card company if you used a credit card (don't do this if you used Paypal, go to Paypal first) and/or calling your bank, then alert the local authorities and report the theft.
I really hope you did use Paypal though and if you did, report it to them right away. They'll freeze that amount in the seller's account until the dispute is resolved.
Ok..as the Police I'll give you some advice on Internet scams that we encounter and how to avoid them. There are many scammers listing high priced items, especially digital cameras, on eBay. They appear to be legitimate eBay members who have been registered for several years and have a lot of good feedback. But these eBay ID's have often been stolen by the scammers to use in their phoney auctions. Often it is just a simple matter of sending an e-mail to a legitimate user pretending to be from eBay support and asking the user to verify their eBay registration information by submitting to them their user ID and password, etc.
How do you tell a legitimate auction from a fraudulent one? Here are some warning signs to look for:
A new item being offered at a substantial discount from the prices currently offered by established online dealers such as B&H, Adorama,
The seller has feedback mostly as a buyer or for non-photo items.
The seller is registered in one country, but the item location or pay-to location is in another.
Payment requested via wire cash transfer, cashiers checks or Western Union.
Never buy from someone who only accepts Western Union. This is a big tip off because WU is unsecured and you will never see your money again. Western Union never promises you anything more than what they do: they give your cash to the other party. They have zero buyer protection. Don't use this method unless you are 100% sure of the person to whom you are sending the money.
The auction may say they accept Paypal or personal checks in part of the description (left over from the real seller's previous auctions) but only accept Western Union wire transfer.
Note: The scammer may say something like "E-mail me the Western Union transaction number, so I will know you have sent the money, but send it to any name you like, not mine. That way, I won't be able to pick up the money until you receive the camera and change the name to mine." Of course, all the scammer needs is the WU number and the money is his.
The auction has "Note: This listing is restricted to pre-approved bidders or buyers only" at the top.
Hit the BACK button immediately. This is used by 95% of scam auctions to get your e-mail address and put you on a scam/spam mailing list or scam offers outside of eBay.
A "canned" description off the manufacturer's website.
A "canned" photograph of item.
The use of three day auctions
Sometimes used by legitimate dealers, but much more common with scams.
The use of Private auctions
Seller is registered in the USA, but does not seem to speak English as their native language.
Seller contacts buyer via email to offer immediate off-eBay sale.
Sometimes the scammer will contact all the bidders on the auction explaining how the higher bidders have backed out, or he has another camera, and he will sell them the camera (which he doesn't have) for their last bid price.
Seller offers "proof" of authenticity with bogus email "from eBay."
Seller will not give street address.
Seller will not give phone number.
Seller refuses to give serial number to interested bidder
So, if you contact the seller and he tells you he is in Bulgaria, not in the US as registered, because he is on vacation and lost all his money and has to sell the camera quick (which he bought new and hasn't even had a chance to take out of the box yet) do you believe him? If so, I got a watch to sell ya!
It's easy to get taken out there on the net and very hard to recoup your money...especially if it's an overseas seller, you can pretty much count it gone. If it's local or in the US, contact your Police Department, file a report and follow up with the Investigator. Insist that you want to press charges and he should follow thru with contact EBAY. They have a section just for Law Enforcement and work well with us. Hope this helps!
Remember this..as you have just seen one of my serious moments which is as rare as a yellow belly sap sucker.
The auction has "Note: This listing is restricted to pre-approved bidders or buyers only" at the top.
Hit the BACK button immediately. This is used by 95% of scam auctions to get your e-mail address and put you on a scam/spam mailing list or scam offers outside of eBay.
Great info btw, but could you clarify a bit more on this - does this also depend on the browser you are using? PM if you like. Thanks.
Linux based browsers are safer in that you can hide your identity a bit more. Should have been clearer on this, by hitting the back button, I mean stay away from the auction and dont enter your information, such as your email. Once you do, it's used to send you the scam emails that look as if they are from ebay and take you to a site that looks authentic, where you enter your password and ID. Then at this point, you are officially screwed.
Something good to know is that Ebay or PayPal NEVER never sends you an email that you can connect directly to the login page from. Both will always direct you to their site instead but never the user login page.
Yeah, I didn't think you could become a victim without entering some of your own passwords/e-mail info. But then again there are other ways of getting that info off of someone's computer... These days I don't even use my debit card at all since the pin may be stolen at some point down the line.
no,we did't use pay pal,and i know this was so dumb,but we trust in this person,we send a cashier check.
It's not dumb to trust others and you shouldn't feel bad because someone else did something wrong. Everything that comes around goes around and eventually, one way or another you'll get your $ back and this seller will lose more than just the $ she/he took from you. Hopefully in the next couple weeks, you'll receive the item or a refund. You're such a sweet person nejiad and I can't imagine anything but good things coming to you.
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