Am I Getting Ripped Off?

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NVP Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 5:39pm
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so i just contacted satin ice, and i asked howmuch would the price be if i had to buy a large amount. she quoted me 40lbs of satin ice for $100. not including shipping. now i had 2 questions..... 1. can you dye white satin ice to any color just like fondant? 2. am i getting ripped off?

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Katskakes Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 5:44pm
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i don't really know about this. But i've been searching online for prices and it seems like a reasonable price. All i could find was 5 lbs for $24.
Or pettinice (another brand) of 15 lbs for $65.

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mqguffey Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 5:45pm
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For 40 lbs. that sounds about right. This site

http://www.cakedeco.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_main.html?p_catid=70&page=,

is the cheapest I've found and it's $55 for 20 lbs.

Yep, dyeable.

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mullett Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 5:46pm
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you can dye it any color. i use satin ice and really like the convenience of it. you will need to look around on the internet to check prices and shipping cost. good luck in your search

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Katskakes Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 5:46pm
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yeah, i just saw 20 lbs for $80! yikes.

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justsweet Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 5:46pm
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You can color santin ice just like any other fondant.

That is a good price for 40lbs, I would ask how much for a case, someone here buys it buy the case and it is pretty cheap.

http://www.bakedeco.com/ (satinice fondant 20lbs $49.00)

http://cakedecostore.com/ (fondx 10lbs for $24.75, plus lots of cake decorating stuff Santinice 20lbs $58.30)

I have a store located a couple hours from me and she charges $90 for 20lbs, I tired not laugh. I get cheaper then that with shipping.

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MommaLlama Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 5:46pm
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Well, at the bakers kitchen it's 72.99 for 20 pounds and at sugarcraft it is 71.69 for 20 lbs so it sounds like a really good deal to me. This is without shipping.

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Katskakes Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 5:49pm
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Ok so now i'm interested in knowing how long will this last for? Do you keep it in that same container til is all gone?
interesting i wonder if the bakedeco site has them in their store. I've been there a few times, that will at least cut the s/h cost! icon_lol.gif

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nglez09 Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 5:50pm
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I don't think you'll find anything cheaper for SI and if you do, it won't be by much. The cheapest I've seen is $55 until now that you mentioned this. HTH.

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moralna Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 5:54pm
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Kats - that is actually a very good price (even without shipping) for 40 pounds and yes, it is dyable. Satin Ice - when properly stored - can last up to 6 months - even longer - with not problem. As you use it, just keep the unused portion in the same plastic it comes wrapped in and in the same bucket and make sure the bucket is shut nice and tight and you will be fine. I have had a 20 pound bucket since end of November and use it as i go and the remainder is still great anda fresh.

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CakeDiva73 Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 5:56pm
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I have a store located a couple hours from me and she charges $90 for 20lbs, I tired not laugh. I get cheaper then that with shipping.




hee hee...trying not to laugh can be a real challenge, huh? icon_lol.gif

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kjgjam22 Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 5:57pm
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Ok so now i'm interested in knowing how long will this last for? Do you keep it in that same container til is all gone?
interesting i wonder if the bakedeco site has them in their store. I've been there a few times, that will at least cut the s/h cost! icon_lol.gif




yes you keep it in the same container. I have some fondant that i have had for a WHILE now and its still good. Its firm because i added cmc to it...but all i need to do is re work it and its fine.

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NVP Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 6:02pm
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wow! thanks for all the replies. well i contacted satin ice, and they said i would have to pay for a case, and shipping seperately. they're in new york and i live in california, and they said that the shipping would be $32 dollars, and the satin ice is for 40lbs for $100. so total would be $132. yesterday i saw this post on making your on satin ice. now.... i dont know about you all but... i'm a young pretty busy mom. how do you guys feel about buying it vs. making it on your own. are the results the same? is it a dramatic convinience on buying it rather than making it and saving some money? any tips would be helpful!

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playingwithsugar Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 6:13pm
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First and FYI - 40 lbs is the case size - 2-20 lb buckets. And that is their minimum order.

Now, let me tell you what I learned through vast research before I started buying directly from SatinIce.

Although the price might be a slight bit lower at some places, it's the shipping that they grab you on. I used to buy it from an online vendor, but the shipping came to $17 for one bucket. I paid less than that to ship an entire case to my location, including the COD fee. I live in Pennsylvania and they are located in upstate NY.

Here are their terms:

They do not take online orders. You must call them directly.
They do not take credit cards.
The first order ships COD, which has an applicable additional fee of $7.00.
After that, they invoice you, and you pay when you receive the invoice.

The total of my first order was $115.63, including the COD fee. Consecutive orders were $108.63.

My advice is that you call them back and ask if they can give you a quote with shipping and COD to your location. Then call other vendors and ask the same.

Please post in this thread what the results of your research is for purchase and delivery to your location.

Theresa icon_smile.gif

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peacockplace Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 6:14pm
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I personally will never make it again! I have three kids, and making it is just too much of a pain.

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NVP Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 6:19pm
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okay i will. i mean i understand the shipping cost. but.... i just dont want to make it. i heard great reviews from everyone here of satin ice, and so i thought maybe if i buy it, and always have it in stick that would be great. so i will shop around and post any updates!

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Katskakes Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 6:34pm
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Thanks for the replies to my questions! i really appreciate all the help and support from everyone.

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justsweet Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 6:37pm
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try this store in LA, someone else from here buys from their. Not sure if they sell fondant, some items are not posted to sell online. Lot of other great ideas to buy.

https://www.surfasonline.com

this store is in the LA area they carry 2lbs but maybe they can order the 20lbs for you.

https://www.kakekreations.com/storefront/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=4

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justsweet Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 6:43pm
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or call these places to see if they carry fondant -

Sylvia's Cake Decorating Supplies
5721 E Beverly Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90022
(323) 722-2608

AB Cake Decorating & Supplies
4512 Whittier Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90022
(323) 269-3118

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NVP Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 7:01pm
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ooo! i love it. thank you for that info. i will call shortly!

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moydear77 Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 8:00pm
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I buy direct all the time. Is is the best deal I have seen unless I am at a show. With shipping a 20# bucket is $58.02 for me. I just bought some about twenty minutes ago!

I just color it to my needs.

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moydear77 Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 8:08pm
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Also your first order has to be 40# which I blew though in a couple of months. I can order just the one bucket at a time now. I call they send it to me and invoice me later for it.

It is good for up to a year from packing date. I am almost through my 20# bucket and that took about a month.

So it is like a fondant fairy drops it off on my step!

HTH!

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melodyscakes Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 8:15pm
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this may sound stupid, but how many cakes can you cover with 20 lbs? I am trying to remember, how much is the Wilton package? Isn't it 10 lbs? so it would be twice that amount. I would love to make my own, but time is $$$ so I need to start buying mine. I am tired of making my own mmf....so very tired of making mmf. I was told about pettince, any one heard of that before?

thanks,

melody

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Phyllis52 Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 8:20pm
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Melody,

I use pettinice. It is wonderful to work with and I've even had lots of people say they enjoy the taste. Of course there are still a few who won't even try it. But the majority of people like it.

Give it a try.

Phyllis

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SweetResults Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 8:22pm
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I have been using Pettinice fondant, like it, like the taste. Tried Satin Ice as well. Like them both, Pettinice is cheaper.

I pay $36.95 for a 15lb. bucket from Pfeil & Holing (www.cakedeco.com) in NY. Order on Tuesday, arrives on Thursday. They only charge actual shipping costs.

Made MMF - broke 2 mixers, have a rotator cuff shoulder injury, won't make it anymore. Like the taste of this better anyway!

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moydear77 Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 8:32pm
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this may sound stupid, but how many cakes can you cover with 20 lbs? I am trying to remember, how much is the Wilton package? Isn't it 10 lbs? so it would be twice that amount. I would love to make my own, but time is $$$ so I need to start buying mine. I am tired of making my own mmf....so very tired of making mmf. I was told about pettince, any one heard of that before?

thanks,

melody




Wilton sells them in 5# Packages.
http://www.wilton.com/store/site/product.cfm?id=3E31A74B-475A-BAC0-5CCFCE5C69A32CC4&fid=3E333CEF-475A-BAC0-5337C2B07F1D32B3

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melodyscakes Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 10:59pm
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thanks moydear,


melody

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marthajo1 Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 11:22pm
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I just bought a package of pettinice today and couldn't wait till Friday when I cover a cake with it! I opened it and tasted it...Im a hater of fondant usually...but this actually tasted pretty good! I will have to wait till it is on the cake to know for sure!

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melysa Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 11:28pm
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www.satinfinefoods.com will give you info on how much you need per cake size LOOK UNDER HANDLING INSTRUCTIONS. satin ice rolls out MUCH thinner than any other fondant i've used. and is consistant, i will never make my own again. (unless i am in a serious pinch of course)

www.intotheoven.com sells the 20lb bucket for 49.95, and they have 2lb, 5lb, 10lb also. shipping is based on your zip code, i pay 11.41 for 20lbs (plus a few other small things added) and around 18 for 40lbs. thats the best deal i've found.

it will last for 6-12 months, keep it well sealed and it will stay fresh. you can color it easily using gel, paste or powder colors.

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melysa Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 11:30pm
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Originally Posted by melodyscakes

this may sound stupid, but how many cakes can you cover with 20 lbs? I am trying to remember, how much is the Wilton package? Isn't it 10 lbs? so it would be twice that amount. I would love to make my own, but time is $$$ so I need to start buying mine. I am tired of making my own mmf....so very tired of making mmf. I was told about pettince, any one heard of that before?

thanks,

melody



Wilton sells them in 5# Packages.
http://www.wilton.com/store/site/product.cfm?id=3E31A74B-475A-BAC0-5CCFCE5C69A32CC4&fid=3E333CEF-475A-BAC0-5337C2B07F1D32B3




wilton is more expensive! to get 4 of these packages at approximately 15-16 each, thats over $60 for 20 lbs...and ......eeew!

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