PVC, isn't that what is being used for most water pipes these days? If that's the case, I don't see how it's not food safe... ??
From what I understand, 90% of PVC pipes produced are for waste or electricity, telecommunication cables, and drainage pipes underground.
The rest are used as mains or waste pipes in buildings, in addition. They are made of rigid PVC, which does not have plasticizers. (Plasticizers make it bendable and toxic.)
AND, one of the worst products Wilton has ever produced...........
Those "economy" re-usable VINYL decorating bags (I threw mine away, but not because they were vinyl, but because they were impossible to get the coupler out of) 
Rae
Not to mention they use it for IV, blood, medicine tubing in hospitals. Ice machines and beverage dispensers in restaurants. Food handling gloves.
You're missing the point. Those are made food-safe. The vinyl you are talking about using with the fondant is not. It is household plastic.
Pharmaceutical containers are not the same plastic as film containers, for example. The first plastic has to be made according to strict standards, the latter does not! You should never store something you'd eat in film canisters.
Good luck, and I hope you and your families stay healthy.
Good luck, and I hope you and your families stay healthy.
That quote is a nasty, low shot at those of us who don't buy your agenda and I resent it!
You can't have it both ways. You rail about phthalate (DEHP), but it's the phthalate (DEHP) that make the vinyl--in medical tubing, gloves, bags, and tablecloths--flexible. How is the method of ingestion--eating something rolled out on it versus having a blood transfusion run through a bag made with it any different????? Technically speaking, there is no such thing as "food safe DEHP"......
"DEHP is present in vinyl products such as wall coverings, shower curtains, tablecloths, furniture upholstery, garden hoses, rainwear, baby pants, dolls, some toys, shoes, automobile upholstery, packaging film, wire and cable sheathing, and some medical supplies.
A smaller share of phthalates not added to PVC are used in personal care products such as skin creams, hairsprays, lotions, nail polish, and fragrances, and in a variety of other products including detergents, inks, paints, solvents, adhesives, caulks, and pharmaceuticals."
http://www.ecocenter.org/200504/dustpoison_200504.shtml
In other words, this stuff is, indeed, EVERYWHERE and undoubtedly secondarily ingested everyday by everyone. If you want to get away from it, stop breathing!
Rae
I have to put my two cents in here. I worked for a grocery store for many years as a meat wrapper, and I used PVC (polyvinlycloride) every day to wrap the meat that you buy. You know the plastic film on the package and I also worked in a factory that produced things like pepsi bottles, clorox bottles and noxemia jars all in the same place only a few feet away from each other. Now if PVC is all that bad I guess I should be dead or have cancer from all of it I have been around at home, hospital, and work. Thats all I have to say, my two cents. Don't mean to offend anyone.
Good luck, and I hope you and your families stay healthy.
That quote is a nasty, low shot at those of us who don't buy your agenda and I resent it!...
I was sincere. If you reread my posts, you will see that I wrote out of concern for our health.
I hope everyone reads the full article from the link you posted. Just because we don't immediately keel over from it, doesn't mean it is safe. Remember DDT, cigarettes (for decades claimed to be safe by manufacturers), asbestos, and unshielded x-ray machines in shoe stores?
Manufacturers of household plastics are not going to go through the extra expense to make their products food-safe on the chance that someone misuses them. Upholstery or tablecloth vinyls and (new, clean) paint buckets and kitty litter boxes are not meant to come into contact with food.
If all vinyl were the same, manufacturers wouldn't make the distinction, for example, between vinyl paint gloves and vinyl food-service gloves.
Don't take my word for it. Read some of the research that is available, use common sense, and make your own informed decisions. Let's do it for our health.
After this comment, I'm off the box.
The vinyl in gloves made of vinyl is the same. There may be differences in the percentage of certain components to make them stronger, thinner, softer, etc., but--it's vinyl softened with phthalates--DEHP--PERIOD.
"Medical grade gloves must be of a higher quality than Multi-Purpose and Foodservice grade gloves. Besides the strict composition of the gloves such as nitrile, latex or vinyl, gloves must pass an Acceptable Quality Level (AQL) test, which is measured on major and minor defects in the gloves. Major defects are visible to eye and include things like stains or dirt. Minor defects are pinholes and may be invisible to the naked eye. The AQL for medical grade gloves is 1.5 - 2.5 pinholes per 100 gloves (1.5% - 2.5%), while multi-purpose and foodservice gloves can have an acceptance rating as high as 4%." sysco.com
Stepping off the box 
Rae
I agree....I am going out to buy some vinyl also. It sounds like a great idea and relief. I am always fighting with my fondant sticking to my countertop and nothing I have done has done the trick yet! You can't live you life wondering what might happen to you. Everyday you hear on the news about something that is bad for you and then the next day it is good for you. If you can't prove to me that it is indeed bad then why make a big fuss. I just can't see why they would sell it like that if it is so bad for you. People have used it for years. If you search hard enough there is something written bad about just about anything on the internet...and if I believed it all I would be locked up in my house not eating anything at all!
I just want to put a little comment in here whether it makes a difference or not. I appreciate anyone sharing info even if it is controversial or difficult to prove. Maybe one day down the road we'll here that vinyl is in fact terrible, maybe not. It's like fluoride, olestra, artificial sugars and many other "controversial" things. It's never bad to be educated on both sides and I am glad that people are willing to risk the attack to share what they think is important.
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